Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

[rockchisler]

Re: Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

I would rather listen to this the any soulja boy, Vic crap that is out now.

[Cane_Mutiny]

Re: Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

I would rather listen to this the any soulja boy, Vic crap that is out now.

True, but you gotta understand that this is Common that we're talking about. Listen to things that he says in "I Used To Love H.E.R." and you'll immediately realize that he's doing exactly the things that he frowned upon in that song.

Told her if she got an image and a gimmick
That she could make money, and she did it like a dummy
Now I see her in commercials, she's universal
She used to only swing it with the inner-city circle
Now she be in the burbs lookin' rock and dressin' hip

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

^^^^I know most will disagree, but I think the message in that excerpt is stupid. Hip hop acts have wanted to "be big" and "take over" for ever. That means extending beyond the inner city circle. The whole point of spending all of that money on production is to sell millions of copies. So you aim to sell to people who aren't in the inner city but then you complain when people in the suburbs buy it and start to become a part of it?

The message was hypocritical nonsense long before this Jonas Bros. collab. That's just to make dumb people from the ghetto feel like they are still a part of something special when they buy a hip hop album, and to allow dumb people from the suburbs to feel like they are connecting to something that either doesn't exist at all, or doesn't have anything to do with the album they are listening to.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

^^^^I know most will disagree, but I think the message in that excerpt is stupid. Hip hop acts have wanted to "be big" and "take over" for ever. That means extending beyond the inner city circle. The whole point of spending all of that money on production is to sell millions of copies. So you aim to sell to people who aren't in the inner city but then you complain when people in the suburbs buy it and start to become a part of it?

The message was hypocritical nonsense long before this Jonas Bros. collab. That's just to make dumb people from the ghetto feel like they are still a part of something special when they buy a hip hop album, and to allow dumb people from the suburbs to feel like they are connecting to something that either doesn't exist at all, or doesn't have anything to do with the album they are listening to.

QFT

[DiceMan]

Re: Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

True, but you gotta understand that this is Common that we're talking about. Listen to things that he says in "I Used To Love H.E.R." and you'll immediately realize that he's doing exactly the things that he frowned upon in that song.

I feel what your sayin' man and I'm not happy about Com's new direction (basically since he dropped UMC) but one thing...."I Used To Love H.E.R." is a loooooong time ago. Both time period and musically. He has seen so much since then and has basically become a worldwide star. To me Com just isn't dope anymore (with the exception "Gladiator" on UMC...that is fire).

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Hip hop fans: This is painful to listen to.

Born, what are you talking about man? You seem to think this version of hip hop you see today summarizes the entire culture. Your interpertation of Commons line was completely off, you basically molded it into your logic.....You may not have a appreciation for hip hop, but to try dismiss the entire idea of the artform is just silly man....very silly.

Tell me, if your favorite rock artist did a song with Hannah Montana, would you "need to get your head checked" for dissaproving...or would you chalk it up to another artist being "hypocritical"? Sounds like you feel like a hip hop artist doesnt deserve to stand for anything like any other artist does b\c of the fact hes a rapper....