Breaking Bad Season 3- Debuts March 21st

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RE: Skylar

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Yeah it was just anger, she was getting back at him some way while also "Breaking Bad" a bit on her own, indulging her darker desires without regard for consequences, as she probably thinks Walt has done. The end of the episode was tense as hell... christ. I was cheering for Walt when he was inside the house though, "Suit yourself."

Interesting interplay with Gus and the cartels... not exactly what I was thinking, but along those lines (Gus is powerful enough to stop Tuco's killer cousins). Glad to have confirmation that "Tio" is a bad-*** cartel boss as well... he had that look about him but I wasn't sure.

[Salhus]

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But, what she did directly hurts Walt. What Walt did, she doesn't agree with, but doesn't hurt her. Am I off base in thinking that Skylar is more in the wrong.

[JayBee74]

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But, what she did directly hurts Walt. What Walt did, she doesn't agree with, but doesn't hurt her. Am I off base in thinking that Skylar is more in the wrong.

Totally disagree-it absolutely did hurt her.

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But, what she did directly hurts Walt. What Walt did, she doesn't agree with, but doesn't hurt her. Am I off base in thinking that Skylar is more in the wrong.

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Of course it hurt her... not only finding out that your mild-mannered husband has been cooking a deadly drug that is ravaging lots of America, but the piles and piles of lies he's had to tell (most of which she's caught him on by this point). It's a pretty complete betrayal of trust, even if he was doing it "for the family". The "fugue state", the deal with the cancer treatment money... these are all MASSIVE lies for a wife to endure from a husband... then he's needling her by showing up in the house, etc. she has a right to be pissed off.

And the part about doing it for the family isn't even really true at this point -- he started doing it for the family, but it's way beyond that at this point, as Walt's getting to live all the things he could only live vicariously in his pre-Heisenberg life and seems to enjoy much of it, even if it's basically caused his life to implode. He's got a LOT of blood on his hands with Jane, Tuco (no guilt for that probably, since he was a psycho meth-head killer), and the plane crash, much of which could've been prevented if he had thought things through and not been following his Heisenberg "itch".

[aholbert32]

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Of course it hurt her... not only finding out that your mild-mannered husband has been cooking a deadly drug that is ravaging lots of America, but the piles and piles of lies he's had to tell (most of which she's caught him on by this point). It's a pretty complete betrayal of trust, even if he was doing it "for the family". The "fugue state", the deal with the cancer treatment money... these are all MASSIVE lies for a wife to endure from a husband... then he's needling her by showing up in the house, etc. she has a right to be pissed off.

And the part about doing it for the family isn't even really true at this point -- he started doing it for the family, but it's way beyond that at this point, as Walt's getting to live all the things he could only live vicariously in his pre-Heisenberg life and seems to enjoy much of it, even if it's basically caused his life to implode. He's got a LOT of blood on his hands with Jane, Tuco (no guilt for that probably, since he was a psycho meth-head killer), and the plane crash, much of which could've been prevented if he had thought things through and not been following his Heisenberg "itch".

I think the difference is Walt's drug dealing was done for the family while Skylar's betrayal was done only to hurt Walt. Walt didnt cook meth with the intent to hurt Skylar.

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Yeah, I'm not saying that they're equivalent, just addressing the thought that she was just being a terrible person rather than reacting directly to the last few "months" (or hoewever long it's been) where Walt has betrayed her trust over and over again.

But yeah, Skylar isn't a very sympathetic character, almost like Betty Draper.

[JayBee74]

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My favorite part of this episode was the Gus-Cartel-Twin conference. I wish they'd shoot the old man with the bell. Jesse needs to get over the girl.

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Judging from the previews it appears that Jesse's meth may be ready for prime-time.

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But, what she did directly hurts Walt. What Walt did, she doesn't agree with, but doesn't hurt her. Am I off base in thinking that Skylar is more in the wrong.

No, I agree with you completely.

Walt never intended to hurt his family. In fact, the only reason he did what he did was to protect his family. Skylar on the other hand, her actions were motivated to directly hurt Walt. She was completely selfish in her intentions.

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That's ignoring the whole fact that Walt's actions were more likely to ruin his family than help them from the jump, regardless of his motivations. He's painted as a noble character, but he really isn't when it comes down to it. He knew before he started cooking that Hank is in the DEA and the ruse probably couldn't last very long (he was just assuming it would last longer than he would live), but he did it anyway. When the chickens come home to roost, he throws tantrums and does things like break into the house... he's provoking her at this point and she reacted thusly.

[JayBee74]

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When the chickens come home to roost, he throws tantrums and does things like break into the house... he's provoking her at this point and she reacted thusly.

Yes, Walt can be an overly emotional tantrum thrower.

[DrJones]

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Walt's drug dealing wasn't selfless. Remember, he could've had his cancer treatment paid for by his rich ex-partners, but his pride wouldn't allow it. He had to "provide for his family" himself, by any means necessary. If Walt truly put his family first, he would've swallowed his pride and accepted the help. This doesn't excuse Skylar's actions, but are they worse than what Walt has done? No way.

[aholbert32]

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Walt's drug dealing wasn't selfless. Remember, he could've had his cancer treatment paid for by his rich ex-partners, but his pride wouldn't allow it. He had to "provide for his family" himself, by any means necessary. If Walt truly put his family first, he would've swallowed his pride and accepted the help. This doesn't excuse Skylar's actions, but are they worse than what Walt has done? No way.

You are missing one thing. Walt wasnt just drug dealing to pay for his treatment. He was dealing to make sure that his family was financially secure if he died. Even if he accepted his partners' charity, it wasnt a guarantee that he would live and that his family would be taken care of.

[JayBee74]

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Any chance that Walter is completely cured? Does anyone think that 180 would be a plus for the show?

[aholbert32]

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Any chance that Walter is completely cured? Does anyone think that 180 would be a plus for the show?

I always thought that the end of this season would probably have Walter replapsing.

[JayBee74]

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I always thought that the end of this season would probably have Walter replapsing.

You may very well be right. I just think the momentum of his actions is in play so much now that him not having cancer might be more interesting.

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The cartel has his name, Gus wants him alive (for now), Jesse possibly becomes a master chef/cook, Sky's lawyer knows the truth.

He would be given a miracle on one hand but still face death and incarceration.