Creepy Alien Stories

[steelcurtain311]

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Doomsday predictions have been going on forever. Most of them are just morons taking things said from the past out of context, and warping it to try and panic people.

It's not just that the Mayan calender ends, it's that it ends on a certain astronomical event that takes place like once every millennium or something. So people twisted that into "It must be doomsday!" somehow.

[dossier]

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They confirmed that the one was a military experiment. Who's to say they all aren't?


lol and that's where you lose me. The internet would love you to believe these 2012 things, but it's bogus. Just the latest "doomsday" trend that bored kids push.

cover up? why would a government admit to something now if they have been covering it up for a really long time.

[steelcurtain311]

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Right. Cover up. How could I be so oblivious?

[dossier]

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Right. Cover up. How could I be so oblivious?

probably because you're really stubborn?

But of course there is always the possibility of it being military aircraft, but my thinking is that there is always the possibility that things like that are extra terrestrial in nature as well.

Again who knows, and yeah that mayan calendar is bull crap. If something was on a collision course to earth we would know about it. What most people who believe in that ought to recognizer that there isn't much room and the whole tablet is filled up. They just ran out of room, or were too bust getting invaded by gods to give a crap about a calendar.

[sb24]

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yeah I agree, 2012 is bologna. Its like if it were the end of humanity, what do we just "know about it"? I know it started from the Mayan calendar ending. What I dont get is how we expect them to create an infinite calendar? Like unless they still had someone sitting in a room updating the calendar, it was bound to end at some point right? Like they went like 2k years into the future, whats the point? Its like up the mayan calendar ends, the world is going to end, the planet is going to flip on its side and we will all die.

With all we know about the way things work, we know things dont happen over night in the universe. We arent just going to wake up on Dec 21st 2012, look out the window and say, man, theres 20 ft of snow, guess we are in a new ice age. Or hey its the 20th of December 2012 and we have no clue whats going to happen tomorrow. Might be a nuclear war, or it might be some tidal waves for no reason that demolishes humanity. Nothing happens in a "year or 2". If the earth was going to do something where as we would not be able to inhabit it after dec 21st 2012, we would have more than enough proof at this point, but the fact that nothing is changing, or has been changing, is proof that nothing crazy is happening. I know its "global warming" etc, etc. But for it to be the end of the world in 2 years from now, it better turn into "global burning" quick cause right now its just a bit warmer than usual.

Doomsday predictions have been going on forever. Most of them are just morons taking things said from the past out of context, and warping it to try and panic people.

It's not just that the Mayan calender ends, it's that it ends on a certain astronomical event that takes place like once every millennium or something. So people twisted that into "It must be doomsday!" somehow.

Everyone has sooo badly twisted the Mayan calendar. People like to pick the Mayan calendar as the "prediction" but if you watch the armageddon channel (history channel) you will see there are many different things that lead to it. I havent attempted to research it, and I am bad with details and describing things, but there is far more to it than people realize.

The Mayan calendar isnt predicting the end of the world as in it just blows up, its predicting a "change." According to them, the Earth has been through this before and this will be the 5th time (I think). It could mean an end to life as we know it, but that statement doesnt mean it will end all life or the Earth.

We already know the our North and South poles do not line up with the true magnetic north/south poles. We also know the Mayans stop their calendar after a rare "astronomical event." IMO that leads me to think along the lines of a possible magnetic pole shift. That would be a big enough event to qualify for the "change." It would change the world in such a way without actually distroying the world.

All that said, it still comes down to the fact the Mayans had to stop their calendar at some point. I have no idea if the choose to stop, or they had to stop because the civilization ended. I dont remember exactly how the Mayan civilization ended but do we really know that they actaully wanted the calendar to end in 2012, or that they just ran out of time to keep working on it.

In case you cant tell, I dont have a strong feeling any which way I just like to listen to random theories.

Now moving on from the Mayans, I wish I could remember all the different theories coming from around the world. I know pretty much nothing on the subject but I remember hearing about a Chinese Orical(?) that stops within the same year. Dont know what it is or the story behind it, but the point is whatever I was hearing at the time made me feel like it had the world going through a major event around that time.

Another one I remember a little bit was having to do with religion. Ill tread very carefully. In fact I just deleted the paragraph I typed. Ill just say there is a prediction about a number of something and we are at the final one. Wont say more than that to avoid people responding.

When you really look around the world at what everyone is predicting, there is more to the 2012 thing than people realize. Its become the "mayans prediction" even though they arent the only ones to say something about it. And even though they say something about it, that doesnt mean the world is ending as many like to think. Everyone is pretty much saying something big will happen, not that the world is ending.

I would say more about things, but I am keeping the TOS in mind. I know its not always what you say, but what someone decides to respond to that can derail and lock a thread.



******Note most of what I am posting is coming from pure memory. Its not meant to be taken as 100% fact but more of thoughts and theories that have come about. Also most of my post is about things I have heard not what I believe. Most of this is stuff I heard about over 2 years ago, but a lot of it was talked about on the history channel.

Edit: There is plenty of room for error in what I just said, but I hope you guys get the point.

[dossier]

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More information about the chinese airports and the ufo's, which seem to support the idea that they were infact alien.

http://knowelty.com/details-about-ufo-sighting-in-china-released/873746/

Chinese officials report that during the summer there were up to 8 UFO sightings at an airport in Baotou Mongolia.

UFO experts and skeptics are all in agreement that they are unable to identify what likely caused the lights. It is unknown whether the lights are from some sort of aircraft, or something else. There had been numerous UFO sightings at other airports already at this time as well; some of which had been explained by the Chinese government as military test flights. Although some of the sightings have been explained a majority of them remain a mystery at this point.

http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/ufos-to-bring-great-events-chinese-scientist-predicts/19661107

"First, I'd like to say something about the conception of 'great events about UFOs,'" Wang Sichao, a planetary astronomer at Purple Mountain Observatory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, told the Beijing Review.

Those are strong pro-UFO words from a scientist who, in September, dismissed UFO sightings over Hong Kong as "ghost images" -- reflections of outdoor lamps caught by camera lenses.

"Astronomers all over the world are now intensifying their efforts to explore extraterrestrial life. As long as we have open minds about scientific exploration of the unknown and employ multiple methods, the contact between humans and extraterrestrial life will, hopefully, come this century."

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/43688/

According to the Legal Evening News, flights were delayed due to a UFO that was spotted near the Beijing Capital International Airport at around 8 p.m. on Sept. 21.

Four hundred miles northwest of Beijing, several flights arriving at Inner Mongolia’s Baotou Airport were also delayed on the evening of Sept.11 after air control radar detected a UFO, according to an Inner Mongolia Morning News report

In August, at least four Chinese cities reported UFO sightings, while between June 30 and July 15 at least nine sightings have been reported across the country, according to Chinese media.

Though UFO spotting is rarely reported in Chinese media due to rigid censorship strictures, the Chinese are by no means strangers to sightings. Shen Kuo (1031–1093), one of the great Chinese ancient scientists from the Song Dynasty (960-1279), recorded seeing a UFO in his Dream Pool Essays (Mengxi Bitan). Wu Youru, a Qing Dynasty (1644-1912) painter vividly depicted a crowd watching a “fire ball” flying eastward in Nanjing City.

While recent UFO sightings have received a lot of publicity, Chinese astronomy researcher Wang Sichao said in fact the number of major sightings this year is just a little higher than average.

Having studied UFO sightings for 39 years, Wang said major UFO sightings have occurred the most in years ending with 1, 2 or 7 since the 70’s. He predicted that more significant sightings may occur in 2011 and 2012.

Former UK Ministry of Defense UFO project leader Nick Pope said the existence of aliens is unquestionable. Mr. Pope investigated the UFO phenomenon for 20 years at the Ministry of Defense, handling 200 to 300 UFO sighting reports each year.


“If extraterrestrials were visiting the earth and interacting with humans, then I suppose that what they’re doing would be something similar to what we do,” Pope said. “After all when we study wildlife in the environment, we hide ourselves, we try not to interact with it. Sometimes we tranquilize animals, experiment on them. Sometimes we put a tag on them. So … maybe they’re just studying us.”

[Phobia]

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Everyone has sooo badly twisted the Mayan calendar. People like to pick the Mayan calendar as the "prediction" but if you watch the armageddon channel (history channel) you will see there are many different things that lead to it. I havent attempted to research it, and I am bad with details and describing things, but there is far more to it than people realize.

The Mayan calendar isnt predicting the end of the world as in it just blows up, its predicting a "change." According to them, the Earth has been through this before and this will be the 5th time (I think). It could mean an end to life as we know it, but that statement doesnt mean it will end all life or the Earth.

We already know the our North and South poles do not line up with the true magnetic north/south poles. We also know the Mayans stop their calendar after a rare "astronomical event." IMO that leads me to think along the lines of a possible magnetic pole shift. That would be a big enough event to qualify for the "change." It would change the world in such a way without actually distroying the world.

All that said, it still comes down to the fact the Mayans had to stop their calendar at some point. I have no idea if the choose to stop, or they had to stop because the civilization ended. I dont remember exactly how the Mayan civilization ended but do we really know that they actaully wanted the calendar to end in 2012, or that they just ran out of time to keep working on it.

In case you cant tell, I dont have a strong feeling any which way I just like to listen to random theories.

Now moving on from the Mayans, I wish I could remember all the different theories coming from around the world. I know pretty much nothing on the subject but I remember hearing about a Chinese Orical(?) that stops within the same year. Dont know what it is or the story behind it, but the point is whatever I was hearing at the time made me feel like it had the world going through a major event around that time.

Another one I remember a little bit was having to do with religion. Ill tread very carefully. In fact I just deleted the paragraph I typed. Ill just say there is a prediction about a number of something and we are at the final one. Wont say more than that to avoid people responding.

When you really look around the world at what everyone is predicting, there is more to the 2012 thing than people realize. Its become the "mayans prediction" even though they arent the only ones to say something about it. And even though they say something about it, that doesnt mean the world is ending as many like to think. Everyone is pretty much saying something big will happen, not that the world is ending.

I would say more about things, but I am keeping the TOS in mind. I know its not always what you say, but what someone decides to respond to that can derail and lock a thread.



******Note most of what I am posting is coming from pure memory. Its not meant to be taken as 100% fact but more of thoughts and theories that have come about. Also most of my post is about things I have heard not what I believe. Most of this is stuff I heard about over 2 years ago, but a lot of it was talked about on the history channel.

Edit: There is plenty of room for error in what I just said, but I hope you guys get the point.

Very good points SB and to elaborate on what you are talking about.

Some scientist believe the Earth does a polar shift of the magnetic poles. Basically North goes South and South goes North. We don't have any way t predict the changes this would cause. Massive ice melting, flooding, Nothing, extreme heat, nada. No one knows, but they seem to believe this is a possibility.

Also another Alien theory is the Anunnaki theory. Pretty interesting even if you don't believe in it.

Supposedly the 12th planet that we just found aka Nibiru is inhabited by the Anunnaki. Sumerian text talk about these gods from the heavens the Anunnaki coming here and teaching this culture what it knew about "the heavens".

Anunnaki means "Those who Anu(a god) sent from heaven to Earth"

Now Nibiru or Planet X, is the planet we just discovered that is on a different orbit than the rest of our solar system but only passes every 3600 years.


Now NASA has found this place so it really exists. Anything more than that is just speculation. Now sumerian text mentions this planet and its inhabits as the Anunnaki. Of course they refer to the Anunnaki as the gods and the place to be "in the heavens".

The theory states that the Anunnaki came here to earth and took really primitive hominids and genetically cloned a human with their species thus making modern man. Basically where the saying "God created us in his image" came from. Now the thing that makes this interesting is they also state that all the different races and different "looks" of humans is because multiple different Alien races have done this. This is why so many different type of humans looks so different, white, black, Asian, etc. They pose the questions, can climate and local make this kind of evolution change in the look of all of us.

So the question is could we(humans) be a product of genetic engineering from a race far more advanced and older than we could imagine??

Reason it is interesting. This culture was around the last time this planet passed near our solar system so the primitive hieroglyphics that show our solar system with the planets PLUS this other planet is there in their form of documentation. We now can genetically clone creatures ourselves so the possibilty of cloning is not far fetched. Fast forward 1000 years and imagine what we could do with that technology. The sumerian culture called the Anunnaki "the creators of man kind".

We all as humans feel special because we are human and were created "In the image of god". Could those "gods" have been a civilization coming from another planet and showing up here??

Interesting theory none the less.

[fistofrage]

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Very good points SB and to elaborate on what you are talking about.

Some scientist believe the Earth does a polar shift of the magnetic poles. Basically North goes South and South goes North. We don't have any way t predict the changes this would cause. Massive ice melting, flooding, Nothing, extreme heat, nada. No one knows, but they seem to believe this is a possibility.

Also another Alien theory is the Anunnaki theory. Pretty interesting even if you don't believe in it.

Supposedly the 12th planet that we just found aka Nibiru is inhabited by the Anunnaki. Sumerian text talk about these gods from the heavens the Anunnaki coming here and teaching this culture what it knew about "the heavens".

Anunnaki means "Those who Anu(a god) sent from heaven to Earth"

Now Nibiru or Planet X, is the planet we just discovered that is on a different orbit than the rest of our solar system but only passes every 3600 years.


Now NASA has found this place so it really exists. Anything more than that is just speculation. Now sumerian text mentions this planet and its inhabits as the Anunnaki. Of course they refer to the Anunnaki as the gods and the place to be "in the heavens".

The theory states that the Anunnaki came here to earth and took really primitive hominids and genetically cloned a human with their species thus making modern man. Basically where the saying "God created us in his image" came from. Now the thing that makes this interesting is they also state that all the different races and different "looks" of humans is because multiple different Alien races have done this. This is why so many different type of humans looks so different, white, black, Asian, etc. They pose the questions, can climate and local make this kind of evolution change in the look of all of us.

So the question is could we(humans) be a product of genetic engineering from a race far more advanced and older than we could imagine??

Reason it is interesting. This culture was around the last time this planet passed near our solar system so the primitive hieroglyphics that show our solar system with the planets PLUS this other planet is there in their form of documentation. We now can genetically clone creatures ourselves so the possibilty of cloning is not far fetched. Fast forward 1000 years and imagine what we could do with that technology. The sumerian culture called the Anunnaki "the creators of man kind".

We all as humans feel special because we are human and were created "In the image of god". Could those "gods" have been a civilization coming from another planet and showing up here??

Interesting theory none the less.

Planet X with an orbit that large would go through way too many vast climate and other changes to make it habitable. We hear horror stories if the Earth shifts a matter of miles this or that way and the distance form the sun is altered, etc, etc.

That Planet would pass through extreme heat and extreme cold. I will have to dismiss this one.

Here's a thought for everyone though. What if all things followed a natural progression. Meaning, what if an earth like planet was the only thing that could sustain intelligent life. Having water, etc and the right chemical and mineral composition. Now imagaine that there are planets that spring up at various times that are pretty much the same as earth. Natural progression with a few different variables leads us to what we consider humans. Now imagine there are humans pretty much just like us on planets out there that resemble earth. Eventually, these humans make contact.

This is my most plauasable scenario that exists if we think aliens are amongst us. We are the Aliens that found a planet that was habitable, but didn't contain humans or the Aliens came here and assimilated with humans that were here.

[shugknight]

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I thought this was pretty interesting.

[Phobia]

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Planet X with an orbit that large would go through way too many vast climate and other changes to make it habitable. We hear horror stories if the Earth shifts a matter of miles this or that way and the distance form the sun is altered, etc, etc.

That Planet would pass through extreme heat and extreme cold. I will have to dismiss this one.

Here's a thought for everyone though. What if all things followed a natural progression. Meaning, what if an earth like planet was the only thing that could sustain intelligent life. Having water, etc and the right chemical and mineral composition. Now imagaine that there are planets that spring up at various times that are pretty much the same as earth. Natural progression with a few different variables leads us to what we consider humans. Now imagine there are humans pretty much just like us on planets out there that resemble earth. Eventually, these humans make contact.

This is my most plauasable scenario that exists if we think aliens are amongst us. We are the Aliens that found a planet that was habitable, but didn't contain humans or the Aliens came here and assimilated with humans that were here.

I agree with your below assessment. Also the theory I stated, I just found it interesting. Wayyy to many varibles to assess if its possible are not. Hell they could build a big *** dome over the planet and make it

LOL who knows

[dossier]

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Planet X with an orbit that large would go through way too many vast climate and other changes to make it habitable. We hear horror stories if the Earth shifts a matter of miles this or that way and the distance form the sun is altered, etc, etc.

That Planet would pass through extreme heat and extreme cold. I will have to dismiss this one.

Here's a thought for everyone though. What if all things followed a natural progression. Meaning, what if an earth like planet was the only thing that could sustain intelligent life. Having water, etc and the right chemical and mineral composition. Now imagaine that there are planets that spring up at various times that are pretty much the same as earth. Natural progression with a few different variables leads us to what we consider humans. Now imagine there are humans pretty much just like us on planets out there that resemble earth. Eventually, these humans make contact.

This is my most plauasable scenario that exists if we think aliens are amongst us. We are the Aliens that found a planet that was habitable, but didn't contain humans or the Aliens came here and assimilated with humans that were here.

And we are just assuming that life can only form under conditions similar to earth. For all we know there are life forms based off of things such as mercury or lac the need for oxygen etc. The possibilities are just unfathomable.

And to Phobia, what makes you correlate the ancient civilization of aliens with the recently discovered planet? I haven't heard of anything but the POSSIBILITY of life there, not actual life

[fistofrage]

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And we are just assuming that life can only form under conditions similar to earth. For all we know there are life forms based off of things such as mercury or lac the need for oxygen etc. The possibilities are just unfathomable.

And to Phobia, what makes you correlate the ancient civilization of aliens with the recently discovered planet? I haven't heard of anything but the POSSIBILITY of life there, not actual life

Well, yes, that's the major assumption in the theory, that intelligent life needs the basic components that are found on a planet similar to earth. I mean, if you believe in evolution its basically a 1 in almost infinity chance that things lined up exactly to get us to where we are. Basically its like a Tornado going through a junkyard and assembling a working 747.

I am not making a case either way, just that it would take more than a perfect storm to create what we have become, but given the amount of galaxies out there beingh almost infinite there most likely is something else out there, but I think its rare, very rare, its almost impossible to comprehend.

[dossier]

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Well, yes, that's the major assumption in the theory, that intelligent life needs the basic components that are found on a planet similar to earth. I mean, if you believe in evolution its basically a 1 in almost infinity chance that things lined up exactly to get us to where we are. Basically its like a Tornado going through a junkyard and assembling a working 747.

I am not making a case either way, just that it would take more than a perfect storm to create what we have become, but given the amount of galaxies out there beingh almost infinite there most likely is something else out there, but I think its rare, very rare, its almost impossible to comprehend.

You know what's a crazy thought? That no matter how long a civilization is around, they will never know everything about the universe. The universe is forever incomprehensible. And then there are theories of multiple universes, and even alternate dimensions. We could probably have a some person throughout earths history write down consecutive numbers as fast as it took to say the word one, and even then we wouldn't be able to count how many galaxies there are

[Phobia]

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And we are just assuming that life can only form under conditions similar to earth. For all we know there are life forms based off of things such as mercury or lac the need for oxygen etc. The possibilities are just unfathomable.

And to Phobia, what makes you correlate the ancient civilization of aliens with the recently discovered planet? I haven't heard of anything but the POSSIBILITY of life there, not actual life

Oh I never said that they said "Life is there for sure". I was stating that some Sumerian interpreters have interpreted their writings to saying that a higher power civilization came from that planet.

Professor of Astrobiology stating it could be possible. Very complicated but does state it is not out of the question
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Kind of the explaination I was talking about with the Annunaki, Sumerian, and the planet X.
http://hubpages.com/hub/annunaki

Well, yes, that's the major assumption in the theory, that intelligent life needs the basic components that are found on a planet similar to earth. I mean, if you believe in evolution its basically a 1 in almost infinity chance that things lined up exactly to get us to where we are. Basically its like a Tornado going through a junkyard and assembling a working 747.

I am not making a case either way, just that it would take more than a perfect storm to create what we have become, but given the amount of galaxies out there beingh almost infinite there most likely is something else out there, but I think its rare, very rare, its almost impossible to comprehend.

Well fist the science community is growing quicker with the notion "non carbon" based life might already exist on this planet. They are looking for organisms that are silicon, sulfur, Arsenic, Chlorine, and Phosphorus to name a few of the different biochemistry to create life.

Silicon is one of the big ones. It is the most similar to carbon based life and believe micro-organisms could exist at the center of the earth that is silicon based. Silicon uses the same periodic table as carbon and has many similar chemical properties as carbon.

Sulfur is another possibility. We have discovered organisms that can't live on oxygen and instead must survive off of Sulfur. These organisms live deep in the ocean and convert Sulfur to hydrogen sulfur. So the basis of life which we know all organism survive on is oxygen. So for a organism that must survive on Sulfur brings forth new questions of whats possible.

Arsenic is another interesting compound. It is extremely dangerous compound on this planet. Yet some fungi and bacteria produce complex arsenic based molecular chains. It is also theorized that life could of started with a Arsenic background in the DNA.

Could links discussing the possiblities

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2007/11/life-from-the-c.html

NASA basically saying chances are slim, but life possibly was created here by a Silicon based molecule.

http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/astrobio/feat_questions/silicon_life.cfm

Another theory from a professor at Cornell University

Life forms so alien that scientists may simply not have recognised evidence of their existence could inhabit the Earth, according to a leading scientist.

Dr. Tom Gold, emeritus professor of astronomy at Cornell University in America, believes that organisms based on silicon - completely unrelated to all the carbon-based life man has encountered so far - may live at great depths.

In a forthcoming book he will suggest that scientists should take the possibility more seriously. Gold, who is a member of the Royal Society, previously predicted that vast amounts of more conventional bacteria live miles down within the Earth's crust. Scientists initially dismissed the idea, but many now agree with him.

"So long as nobody suspects there could be silicon-based life, we may just not be clever enough to identify it," he said last week.

Rocks bearing signs of silicon-based organisms may already be sitting in laboratories, he believes, with their significance overlooked.

Every known living organism, from bacteria to mankind, is based on the chemistry of carbon, which forms the complex molecules such as DNA that are central to our existence. Scientists believe that if extraterrestrial life is found, the chances are that it, too, will be carbon-based.

Silicon has many chemical similarities to carbon, prompting scholars and science fiction writers to dream up new life forms. Huge "space slugs" that can swallow space ships appear in the film The Empire Strikes Back; in an episode of Star Trek a rock-like alien attacked Captain Kirk's crew; and killer parasites based on silicon surfaced in The X-Files when scientists explored the interior of a volcano.

Gold's life forms, if they exist, would most likely be micro-organisms capable of withstanding enormous pressures and temperatures, living in tiny pores inside rock deep within the Earth's crust. They could draw energy from dissolved gases and surrounding minerals.

Gold's ideas, which centre on an alternative explanation for oil and mineral deposits, will be published in his book, The Deep Hot Biosphere, in January.

"It is speculative but logical that there could be a large bio-chemical system very deep down which works better at high temperatures and pressures," he said.

Others are sceptical. Dr Harold Klein, who headed the Viking lander project team that searched for signs of life on Mars in the 1970s, pointed out that silicon was far inferior to carbon at forming the complex polymers crucial for life.

"I personally doubt the idea of silicon-based life. If we do find organisms far down inside the Earth, I'd bet they'd be carbon-based," he said.

Nevertheless, he urges future missions to Mars to carry an instrument to test for non-carbon-based organisms - just in case. It is possible that the chemistry of silicon is altered sufficiently by the great temperatures and pressures deep in the Earth to make it more suited to forming complex molecules, according to David Noever, a research scientist at Nasa's new Astrobiology Institute.

He said some scientists at the American space agency were treating the idea of silicon-based organisms seriously, particularly with a view to searching for extraterrestrial life.

"It's almost naive to assume all life must be carbon-based; I could possibly make good cases for life based on both silicon and phosphorus," he said.

Silicon is used by some carbon-based single-cell organisms called diatoms to form protective shells, according to Dr David Williams, a diatom researcher at the Natural History Museum in London. But diatoms are still fundamentally carbon-based.

However, bizarre organisms have been found in recent years deep in the Earth's crust. Steve Jones, professor of genetics at University College London, said: "There's an unknown universe down there that has already produced organisms with metabolisms so strange that, by comparison, man and mushrooms are almost identical, so God knows what else they'll find."

Microbes have been found living on the ocean floor at depths and temperatures where life was previously thought unsustainable.

Without knowing what silicon-based life forms might be like, said Dr Harry Elderfield, an earth scientist at Cambridge University, it is almost impossible to predict how scientists could even test for them.

Yet Gold has been described by Stephen Jay Gould, president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, as one of the most iconoclastic scientists - but one who is often right.

My point is while the carbon based environment that we have always known and still believe to be the "only way". Might be no different than such notions as "The Earth is flat", "Our Solar system is all of Space", "No possible way for life to exist at extreme depths of the ocean", etc. These were concepts just not that very long ago were considered to be FACT. Yet now modern science is discovering they were wrong.

So don't bet out that carbon is the only possible molecular chain to carry life. We already have organisms we have discovered which run on a pairing of carbon and other properties so the chances are growing bigger that life can be created not only from carbon but also other chemical compounds.

[HealyMonster]

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If there was another planet out there which is orbiting our sun, and is going to be "local" in 2012, it would be very large in the night sky by now, and people would be all over it. If this planet were to be in our solar system in 24 months, itll be right around the corner.

Im also pretty certain ive read statements discrediting the claim and I do not believe that planet exists at all. Furthermore, if it were even the slightest bit possible that a planet were going to orbit our sun, it wouldnt be "planet x" and more importantly, anyone with a telescope would be able to see it. Unless its one of those invisible planets, then we are just in trouble.