Creepy Alien Stories

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I don't think it rules out evolution per se. For example, I could have a genius for a child, and his child could be of average intelligence, and then the remainder of the line stays average. Now each generations should have more knowledge, not but not necessarily more intelligence. And catastrophes can make large amounts of knwledge go dormant or disappear. There is definite room for regression within evolution.

Not all evolution is for the better, should the earth somehow grow colder, there are certain species that would die out that used to have thicker coats and better prepared for the cold, but their own evoltion caused their demise.

So the intelligence set by the genius generation just gets forgot? As time goes people remain just as smart, the only thing that changes is what we know. Now days we know more advanced things then we did 20 years ago, and 20 years ago we knew more advanced things then 50 years ago, that kind of knowledge may get lost but there has never been a catastrophe large enough that we would loose knowledge on how to move 4 million tons of rocks.

And i don't get how you can think it's telekinesis over ufo's. It's not entirely mind over matter, when I was a kid I believed I was goku and you didn't see my flying around blowing ish up

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So the intelligence set by the genius generation just gets forgot? As time goes people remain just as smart, the only thing that changes is what we know. Now days we know more advanced things then we did 20 years ago, and 20 years ago we knew more advanced things then 50 years ago, that kind of knowledge may get lost but there has never been a catastrophe large enough that we would loose knowledge on how to move 4 million tons of rocks.

And i don't get how you can think it's telekinesis over ufo's. It's not entirely mind over matter, when I was a kid I believed I was goku and you didn't see my flying around blowing ish up

I'm not saying I believe in telekinesis over UFO's, I was stating that it is just a theory, same as alien visitation is just a theory.

And what do you mean there hasn't been a catastrophe large enough to lose the knowledge of how to move 40 ton rocks? Did you really just say that? There are people out there like you who think ALiens moved them because we don't know exactly how it was done. If we could time travel back, I guarantee that an Egyptian could tell you exactly how it was done. Somehow those records were lost.

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I'm not saying I believe in telekinesis over UFO's, I was stating that it is just a theory, same as alien visitation is just a theory.

And what do you mean there hasn't been a catastrophe large enough to lose the knowledge of how to move 40 ton rocks? Did you really just say that? There are people out there like you who think ALiens moved them because we don't know exactly how it was done. If we could time travel back, I guarantee that an Egyptian could tell you exactly how it was done. Somehow those records were lost.

but think of all the things we do know they can do, create irrigation systems, create agriculture systems, move a rock 4 million tons. If they could move a rock that size they would know how to do feats at least comparable in magnitude, which they can't

and the fact that we can't do that kind of stuff now makes it even more ridiculous as we are moving mountains now but still couldn't cut rocks so perfectly. that just doesn't make sense

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So the intelligence set by the genius generation just gets forgot? As time goes people remain just as smart, the only thing that changes is what we know. Now days we know more advanced things then we did 20 years ago, and 20 years ago we knew more advanced things then 50 years ago, that kind of knowledge may get lost but there has never been a catastrophe large enough that we would loose knowledge on how to move 4 million tons of rocks.

And i don't get how you can think it's telekinesis over ufo's. It's not entirely mind over matter, when I was a kid I believed I was goku and you didn't see my flying around blowing ish up

Well heres the thing, the genius generation would try and pass all the information, but can the average guy handle all that? No. I understand we have TV's and I understand how we get the picture, but given all the required resources, I wouldnt be able to build a TV. Some people comprehend things others can begin to understand. That info can be lost if you dont know what to do with it. This was assuming a catastrophe is what took out the various people with the understand of the knowledge.

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Well heres the thing, the genius generation would try and pass all the information, but can the average guy handle all that? No. I understand we have TV's and I understand how we get the picture, but given all the required resources, I wouldnt be able to build a TV. Some people comprehend things others can begin to understand. That info can be lost if you dont know what to do with it. This was assuming a catastrophe is what took out the various people with the understand of the knowledge.

First off they would've written something like that down and there would've been plenty of smart people who would study it. well you couldn't build a tv but someone who tv building related to could. Even if you were less then average in building tv's you still could if you knew how to follow a manual.

So the architects after the genius era might want to know how to move 4 million tons of an object, hell architects now would want to know how to do that without the use of oil.

An achievement of that magnitude wouldn't of been allowed to simply be forgotten, imagine the empires that could be built with that knowledge.

EDIT: and what hannibal did was nearly 2,000 years later then the building of Giza

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First off they would've written something like that down and there would've been plenty of smart people who would study it. well you couldn't build a tv but someone who tv building related to could. Even if you were less then average in building tv's you still could if you knew how to follow a manual.

So the architects after the genius era might want to know how to move 4 million tons of an object, hell architects now would want to know how to do that without the use of oil.

An achievement of that magnitude wouldn't of been allowed to simply be forgotten, imagine the empires that could be built with that knowledge.

EDIT: and what hannibal did was nearly 2,000 years later then the building of Giza

They did draw pictures of people pulling large blocks. That was them possibly writing it down. But we are still unclear of what they pulled with, what was underneath the blocks, etc.

On top of that, we don't write down things that are inherent knowledge. There weren't really step by step instructions for anything until a few hundred years ago and then they weren't at your fingertips until the interet became widely accepted.

If you took 100 people today and put them in a field. The rest of the world was whiped out. What knowledge would you keep track of. What would you write it down on to preserve it. Most of your day would be spent trying to get your necessities. You would pass some knwoledge onto your children, but by the time the society was large enough and prepared to use it, much would be lost.

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Well heres the thing, the genius generation would try and pass all the information, but can the average guy handle all that? No. I understand we have TV's and I understand how we get the picture, but given all the required resources, I wouldnt be able to build a TV. Some people comprehend things others can begin to understand. That info can be lost if you dont know what to do with it. This was assuming a catastrophe is what took out the various people with the understand of the knowledge.

Great point and reminds me of a Joe Rogan skit.

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First off they would've written something like that down and there would've been plenty of smart people who would study it. well you couldn't build a tv but someone who tv building related to could. Even if you were less then average in building tv's you still could if you knew how to follow a manual.

So the architects after the genius era might want to know how to move 4 million tons of an object, hell architects now would want to know how to do that without the use of oil.

An achievement of that magnitude wouldn't of been allowed to simply be forgotten, imagine the empires that could be built with that knowledge.

EDIT: and what hannibal did was nearly 2,000 years later then the building of Giza

Ok so then tell me why we dont have a written record of how the pyramids were built? And why do we know nothing about the bagdad battery? We know they documented almost everything but we know nothing of their greatest works. Thats why I mentioned cracked.com's article on things humanity just plain forgot(yes its a humor site). There have been things in history we didnt pass on to future generations.

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They did draw pictures of people pulling large blocks. That was them possibly writing it down. But we are still unclear of what they pulled with, what was underneath the blocks, etc.

On top of that, we don't write down things that are inherent knowledge. There weren't really step by step instructions for anything until a few hundred years ago and then they weren't at your fingertips until the interet became widely accepted.

If you took 100 people today and put them in a field. The rest of the world was whiped out. What knowledge would you keep track of. What would you write it down on to preserve it. Most of your day would be spent trying to get your necessities. You would pass some knwoledge onto your children, but by the time the society was large enough and prepared to use it, much would be lost.

Thats what I was trying to say but you said it so much better.

Great point and reminds me of a Joe Rogan skit.

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Ill have to check that out when I get home, its blocked from work.

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Thats what I was trying to say but you said it so much better.



Ill have to check that out when I get home, its blocked from work.

Oh thats just a real quick clip of the standup. If you get a chance check out the whole show on netflix. It is really funny and shows how deep Joe can get. Like he describes humans as mold on bread. If you view earth from above how all the things we have built, destroyed, toxic chemicals in the air, etc would look like a giant mold on a piece of bread. That we are here just to destroy everything no different than a product like mold that single purpose is to consume its host.

He goes into some off the wall tangents but is well worth the watch.

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Oh thats just a real quick clip of the standup. If you get a chance check out the whole show on netflix. It is really funny and shows how deep Joe can get. Like he describes humans as mold on bread. If you view earth from above how all the things we have built, destroyed, toxic chemicals in the air, etc would look like a giant mold on a piece of bread. That we are here just to destroy everything no different than a product like mold that single purpose is to consume its host.

He goes into some off the wall tangents but is well worth the watch.

LOL were mold. Ill definalty have to check that out thanks.

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They did draw pictures of people pulling large blocks. That was them possibly writing it down. But we are still unclear of what they pulled with, what was underneath the blocks, etc.

On top of that, we don't write down things that are inherent knowledge. There weren't really step by step instructions for anything until a few hundred years ago and then they weren't at your fingertips until the interet became widely accepted.

If you took 100 people today and put them in a field. The rest of the world was whiped out. What knowledge would you keep track of. What would you write it down on to preserve it. Most of your day would be spent trying to get your necessities. You would pass some knwoledge onto your children, but by the time the society was large enough and prepared to use it, much would be lost.

I don't disagree for the most part. Someone thing that important to building shrines to the "gods" wouldn't have that easily "forgotten", there had to be some side of outside help. and the fact is there has never been catastrophic occurrence (as far as mesopotamia onwards) like the one you mentioned, there have always been at the very least 100,000's of civilized people during civilized earth.

I think you think I'm arguing with you on there not having been past civilizations more advanced then us that have been wiped out, which I don't discount. Actually I've entertained the idea that ufo's are actually people from the future traveling back in time to check on us and keep us from doing some crazy ish. It could also go into the realm of alternate dimension beings/people coming around and doing crazier ish with us.

But it might also be inter-plantary beings flying around and doing stuff. My personal theory on everything it that there were humanlike's who started on another planet and then by whatever means they either messed with monkeys somehow or they reproduced us without any knowledge and then were just let to grow for whatever reason.


and the Joe Rogan stand up is not also deep but funny as hell too. What he says about looking up at the stars is soo true

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I don't disagree for the most part. Someone thing that important to building shrines to the "gods" wouldn't have that easily "forgotten", there had to be some side of outside help. and the fact is there has never been catastrophic occurrence (as far as mesopotamia onwards) like the one you mentioned, there have always been at the very least 100,000's of civilized people during civilized earth.

I think you think I'm arguing with you on there not having been past civilizations more advanced then us that have been wiped out, which I don't discount. Actually I've entertained the idea that ufo's are actually people from the future traveling back in time to check on us and keep us from doing some crazy ish. It could also go into the realm of alternate dimension beings/people coming around and doing crazier ish with us.

But it might also be inter-plantary beings flying around and doing stuff. My personal theory on everything it that there were humanlike's who started on another planet and then by whatever means they either messed with monkeys somehow or they reproduced us without any knowledge and then were just let to grow for whatever reason.


and the Joe Rogan stand up is not also deep but funny as hell too. What he says about looking up at the stars is soo true

Oh yea I forgot about that part. So true. Tourist drive thousands of miles to look at a big *** hole in the ground or a big river. But the most amazing thing that everyone dismisses everyday is right above us everyday. Space, the largest place ever with millions and millions of unexplainable, unfathomable, and uncomprehendable things exist right above us everyday.

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I don't disagree for the most part. Someone thing that important to building shrines to the "gods" wouldn't have that easily "forgotten", there had to be some side of outside help. and the fact is there has never been catastrophic occurrence (as far as mesopotamia onwards) like the one you mentioned, there have always been at the very least 100,000's of civilized people during civilized earth.

I think you think I'm arguing with you on there not having been past civilizations more advanced then us that have been wiped out, which I don't discount. Actually I've entertained the idea that ufo's are actually people from the future traveling back in time to check on us and keep us from doing some crazy ish. It could also go into the realm of alternate dimension beings/people coming around and doing crazier ish with us.

But it might also be inter-plantary beings flying around and doing stuff. My personal theory on everything it that there were humanlike's who started on another planet and then by whatever means they either messed with monkeys somehow or they reproduced us without any knowledge and then were just let to grow for whatever reason.


and the Joe Rogan stand up is not also deep but funny as hell too. What he says about looking up at the stars is soo true

You are saying that there has never been a catastophre, but what do all ancient civilizations have in common?? They have been conquored. Alot of the time the victors claimed what they wanted as theirs and burned the rest. And history is written by the victors.

It seems that the more knowledge a civilation gains, the less it likes to wage war and understands its ramifications. So for the most part, up until the last few hundred years. The wars were usually won by the fiercest most populace civilizations, who really didn't take care to preserve anything from the other nations.

There is a reason that Europe went into the dark ages....Barbarian hordes had taken over what Rome had established. So you have a period of hundreds of years where there is really regression in that area of the world.

I don't know how they moved those stones or what extra aids that had in doing so, but I don know that probably 99% of all of Egypts records have been destroyed one way or another through time.

In life after people, if we disappeared, about the only thing that would remain in 5,000 years would be some remnants of granite carvings, literally everything else would be gone. Its hard to imagine everything we may have lost over the last 3 or 4 thousand years.

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You are saying that there has never been a catastophre, but what do all ancient civilizations have in common?? They have been conquored. Alot of the time the victors claimed what they wanted as theirs and burned the rest. And history is written by the victors.

It seems that the more knowledge a civilation gains, the less it likes to wage war and understands its ramifications. So for the most part, up until the last few hundred years. The wars were usually won by the fiercest most populace civilizations, who really didn't take care to preserve anything from the other nations.

There is a reason that Europe went into the dark ages....Barbarian hordes had taken over what Rome had established. So you have a period of hundreds of years where there is really regression in that area of the world.

I don't know how they moved those stones or what extra aids that had in doing so, but I don know that probably 99% of all of Egypts records have been destroyed one way or another through time.

In life after people, if we disappeared, about the only thing that would remain in 5,000 years would be some remnants of granite carvings, literally everything else would be gone. Its hard to imagine everything we may have lost over the last 3 or 4 thousand years.

But we know how to do things they did back then except much better then they did, so for them to have a capability to do something that even modern man with our best men on the job couldn't figure out under the same conditions are ridiculous. And like you said the conquerer's kept what they could use, like building massive buildings by moving rapid resources, so I can't see them just for going that knowledge. That's something that everyone would do if they could.

And your last point is what makes the pyramids so crazy, they withstood 4,000 years and still look very similar to how they started. how when nearly all of our's would be gone?