Creepy Alien Stories

[Keirik]

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dude what are you saying?
In a court of law you get expert testimonies to put people on death row based solely on their occupation, and yet its dumb to say that a guy who knows a iot about a subject that directly relates to Space Faring Aliens is stupid? that doesn't make any sense. I'm a believer and I don't claim to have seen anything (with the exception of october 13th, but I recall most of what I saw) you can't just assume that these astronauts would make this because they were believers previously, you have no idea who they are or what they are like.

And why don't I revoke the part about the diaper astronaut, if she were to tell me that she had seen UFO's in her space travel, I would hesitantly believe her.

Also how do you know they haven't seen anything? Astronauts stand a lot to loose because people who think like you dominate the political scene and is something of a joke to society. By coming out these can get ridiculed and that can affect their lives. Besides you can look it up, there are numerous off the record identifications by airline pilots, so just because you haven't heard about it, doesn't mean he didn't see it. And you act like UFO's are flying around us everyday everysecond. For all you know they just didn't see ufo's due to millions of different random reason s like they where on the other side of the planet or they simply weren't there.

1. we arent in a court of law so wtf does that have to do with anythng?????????
2. travelling to the moon has nothing to do with seeing lifr from another planet.
3.there is zero evidence that 100% shows lifr from another planet has visited us
4. testimony condeming someone to death row has to do with a person's EXPERTISE on a subject, not soley on their occupation. Being an astronaut does not make a person an expert as to life in the universe, lol

[Keirik]

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Keirik

If we had a document that housed very single last persons name and location combined with the type of supposed sighting. Down to cultures that don't even have knowledge of technology as primitive as the wheel. But they are documenting the same thing as all these other people across this large planet.

This "document" would be enormous to the point trying to comprehend its size would be crazy. Literally people across this ENTIRE planet has documented round saucer craft in the sky from as old as .B.C. to now modern day. With the amount of sightings being in the thousands and thousands each year is very very impressive.

You have people across this entire planet drawing, filming, and speaking about craft extremely similar in shape. Cultures thousands of years ago describing and drawing those same similar objects.

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I think it has to be looked at more than just a coincidence. I don't know if you are just closed minded to the whole concept or you just choose to ignore it all. I am not a "UFO's are real for sure" type. But I also choose to have a open mind about how all these things are related.

No differently than a scientist telling you there is invisible particles in the air. If you split this "invisible thing" it will cause a massive explosion enough to kill the planet. You are that guy saying "Impossible, do you see anything......pssssshhhhh this is crazy". THEN someone figures out that it is possible and those "disbelievers" were left looking rather silly.

This is the same kind of scenario with you discrediting any possible option that there is something out there YOU possibly don't understand. Just because you might not be able to explain the workings of the world and the possibilities out there might be over your head. Time has shown that much of modern science came from thoughts of what could be possible. No differently than things such as Jet propulsion or energy weapons. So acting like these things are "impossible" does not go well for your credibility. Not saying I am more intelligent than you or that I know the answers. BUT I am open enough to realize that there are plenty of things on this 4 billion year old place that I have ZERO knowledge of. Discrediting ideas such as gravity, electricity, magnetism, etc. would be no differently than what you are doing in most your writings here.

There is plenty of credible accounts across the earth just about every year.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/127820...ots_testimony/

credible accounts of things unexplained doesn't mean there is evidence of being visited by another life form. There were just as many "credible" accounts over the history of time for people to say lightning and thunder were from the "gods", the earth was flat, we were created several thousands of years ago and not evolved, so on and so forth.

There is a reason that even in today's society while i can be at work and at any given monent every single thing i do is captured crystal clearly on camera but anyhthing "alien" related is just vague, blurry, or just not in the realm of anything provable.

Again, as i've said much earlier in the thread, the job of someone proposing a radical theory of the existence of life is the burden of those who wish to prove it's validity and not on those with common sense to say it's not true.

[steelcurtain311]

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credible accounts of things unexplained doesn't mean there is evidence of being visited by another life form. There were just as many "credible" accounts over the history of time for people to say lightning and thunder were from the "gods", the earth was flat, we were created several thousands of years ago and not evolved, so on and so forth.

There is a reason that even in today's society while i can be at work and at any given monent every single thing i do is captured crystal clearly on camera but anyhthing "alien" related is just vague, blurry, or just not in the realm of anything provable.

Again, as i've said much earlier in the thread, the job of someone proposing a radical theory of the existence of life is the burden of those who wish to prove it's validity and not on those with common sense to say it's not true.

^^^ Despite what some of you think, Youtube videos aren't proof of alien existence. Neither are accounts from ANYBODY, regardless of how credible you deem them, if there's no legit evidence to go along with it.

I said this same thing earlier in this thread. There's a reason why all of the "evidence" towards things like Aliens, or Bigfoot, or the Lochness Monster, or other myths, is at best, just a blurred video or something. Like, if this stuff is happening as frequently as you guys think, and is as big as you guys think, why is there nothing concrete about it?

I believe in ghosts. Yet I watch these Ghost shows on television and I laugh, as the majority of them are so obviously fake. Notice how all of them, despite what show it is or what network it's on, have the same "evidence" after they conclude their investigations? Maybe some garbled "EVP" or some weird thing on their thermal imager that can be easily faked. Or some audio of a knock that could have been made by anyone or anything.

It's not to say that I believe things like ghosts or aliens or whatever do not exist. It's that this crap you see on the internet or TV is just BS. The show I mainly like is Fact or Faked, as it shows you just how easily (or difficult) people can fake these things. The whole "lights in the sky" thing that people claim are UFO's? Yeah, that's REALLY easily faked.

[HealyMonster]

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Steelcurtain, you make a good point, in this day and age, if you cant get concrete evidence, you prob never will. I mean, Bigfoot and myths like that are seemingly dying off as we would be able to detect a large humanlike being living in the mountains with the technology we have.

as for the UFO's its a hard one, I mean, there are alot more videos out there. It isnt like there are thousands of videos of a hairy, blurry thing running up a mountain that everyone is speculating about. That is the case for UFO's. The tricky thing, imho, is calling UFO's "Aliens" as thats the unlikely part of them. It could be some weird swamp gas phenomenon, or our military being more advanced than we give them credit for,etc.

[HealyMonster]

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[dossier]

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1. we arent in a court of law so wtf does that have to do with anythng?????????
2. travelling to the moon has nothing to do with seeing lifr from another planet.
3.there is zero evidence that 100% shows lifr from another planet has visited us
4. testimony condeming someone to death row has to do with a person's EXPERTISE on a subject, not soley on their occupation. Being an astronaut does not make a person an expert as to life in the universe, lol

1. You can only win courts cases with what the court deems as evidence, with all the eyewitness' around the world, through out time, and the people who have claimed to have seen alien ships, you would easily win a court case.
2. Ummm yes it does, you are in space, you might happen to see something ship being flown in space that they do not recognize as human, which astronauts claim to have seen.
3. You're right, as far as the general public knows there is no physical evidence of ufo's, but to say their is no evidence is just not true.
4.What you aren't understanding is people who would have no reason to lie, and many reasons to keep there mouths shut, are going around telling people what happened. You just aren't going to take a press conference by NORAD officers seriously? If an astronaut believed 100% with his heart that he saw ufo's while in space, there would be no way you would believe him? Even if millions world wide and through out time are describing similar things while having no way of contacting each other you wouldn't even second guess it?

[dossier]

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^^^ Despite what some of you think, Youtube videos aren't proof of alien existence. Neither are accounts from ANYBODY, regardless of how credible you deem them, if there's no legit evidence to go along with it.

I said this same thing earlier in this thread. There's a reason why all of the "evidence" towards things like Aliens, or Bigfoot, or the Lochness Monster, or other myths, is at best, just a blurred video or something. Like, if this stuff is happening as frequently as you guys think, and is as big as you guys think, why is there nothing concrete about it?

I believe in ghosts. Yet I watch these Ghost shows on television and I laugh, as the majority of them are so obviously fake. Notice how all of them, despite what show it is or what network it's on, have the same "evidence" after they conclude their investigations? Maybe some garbled "EVP" or some weird thing on their thermal imager that can be easily faked. Or some audio of a knock that could have been made by anyone or anything.

It's not to say that I believe things like ghosts or aliens or whatever do not exist. It's that this crap you see on the internet or TV is just BS. The show I mainly like is Fact or Faked, as it shows you just how easily (or difficult) people can fake these things. The whole "lights in the sky" thing that people claim are UFO's? Yeah, that's REALLY easily faked.

To say there is no evidence is just ridiculous. have you seen ancient aliens? have you seen some of the videos? have you seen who's saying they're real? Most scientist think there is definitely life in the universe, and yet you guys can't? I mean mathematically it's been proven there is life out there.

And come on, you're gonna group us with the people who believe a dinosaur lives in a lake and a giant monkey that no know every sees. There's a huge difference between ufo's which millions of people have witnessed/chronicled over human civilizations entire history, and those kind of things which are only recently been talked about and rarely anybody, if anybody see's them. the fact that you associated us with them show's your ignorant stigma of ufo's.

And I'm with you, 95% of the ish related to ufo's is fake, but when the government thinks a certain situation involves a ufo, or a plane that's been flying around a ufo suddenly disappears off the radio, or the crystal skull machu pichu and giza that even with today's technology we couldn't make as well as those people seems illogical unless you add the element of outside help.

o and btw those ghost shows are so lame, South Park made fun of that crap perfectly

[Keirik]

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1. You can only win courts cases with what the court deems as evidence, with all the eyewitness' around the world, through out time, and the people who have claimed to have seen alien ships, you would easily win a court case.
2. Ummm yes it does, you are in space, you might happen to see something ship being flown in space that they do not recognize as human, which astronauts claim to have seen.
3. You're right, as far as the general public knows there is no physical evidence of ufo's, but to say their is no evidence is just not true.
4.What you aren't understanding is people who would have no reason to lie, and many reasons to keep there mouths shut, are going around telling people what happened. You just aren't going to take a press conference by NORAD officers seriously? If an astronaut believed 100% with his heart that he saw ufo's while in space, there would be no way you would believe him? Even if millions world wide and through out time are describing similar things while having no way of contacting each other you wouldn't even second guess it?

why do they have no reason to lie? You brought up Gordon Cooper. He first claimed to have seen a UFO more than 10 years prior to even going in space, then apparently claimed to have seen one several times over again. What, he just happened to have been followed specifically by aliens now? I have no idea what he saw or think he saw but it doesn't mean he's an expert on the existence of the universe. Edgar Mitchell had an agenda as well. Heck, he was performing unauthorized ESP experiments while in space, wrote books about psychic exploration, etc.

Once again, being an astronaut does not make them an expert as to extraterrestrial life. If you think otherwise then seriously bro, you are being extremely naive. He's an expert PILOT, not an expert on the existence of life around the universe. Does this mean when NASA started the program that attempted to send a school teacher into space, she now was an expert on life around the universe too?
Here are the requirements to be an astronaut for NASA
Commander and Pilot
A bachelor's degree in engineering, biological science, physical science or mathematics is required, although service in the United States Air Force can exempt this.
At least 1,000 hours flying time as pilot-in-command in jet aircraft. Experience as a test pilot is desirable.
Height must be 5 ft 4 in to 6 ft 4 in (1.63 to 1.93 m).
Distant visual acuity must be correctable to 20/20 in each eye
The refractive surgical procedures of the eye, PRK and LASIK, are now allowed, providing at least 1 year has passed since the date of the procedure with no permanent adverse after effects. For those applicants under final consideration, an operative report on the surgical procedure will be requested.

I believe there is life out there, but the concept of them visiting us all the time seems very laughable to me on many levels. This concept of those who report seeing things as martyrs gets old really fast. This is 2010. We can pinpoint the location and microscopic detail of a mosquito from a satellite in outer space, but we can't seem to capture anything absolutely concrete on large spacecrafts anywhere in the world? Come on, lets be realistic here. The only way this would work is by basically saying there is a worldwide coverup that every government/those "in the know" would 100% agree upon throughout the world to not report irrefutable findings for the "good of man kind" or something along those lines.

You think every country in the world is in on this, or just that the US is the only real country with the ability to cover this kind of thing up and every other country is just still in the dark ages in terms of technology?

I'm siure there are plenty of people who are 100% honest about thinking they know the truth about intelligent life visiting us. Not everyone obviously is lying about what they saw or think they saw. That still does not mean they are correct in saying there are other forms of life visiting us.

I respect your opinion, but i personally think you keep misinterpreting your opinion as meaning there is someting factual about it. There is nothing factual about aliens visiting us and until there one day is, there really is nothing to do except beat a dead horse on the topic.

[dossier]

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why do they have no reason to lie? You brought up Gordon Cooper. He first claimed to have seen a UFO more than 10 years prior to even going in space, then apparently claimed to have seen one several times over again. What, he just happened to have been followed specifically by aliens now? I have no idea what he saw or think he saw but it doesn't mean he's an expert on the existence of the universe. Edgar Mitchell had an agenda as well. Heck, he was performing unauthorized ESP experiments while in space, wrote books about psychic exploration, etc.

Once again, being an astronaut does not make them an expert as to extraterrestrial life. If you think otherwise then seriously bro, you are being extremely naive. He's an expert PILOT, not an expert on the existence of life around the universe. Does this mean when NASA started the program that attempted to send a school teacher into space, she now was an expert on life around the universe too?
Here are the requirements to be an astronaut for NASA
Commander and Pilot
A bachelor's degree in engineering, biological science, physical science or mathematics is required, although service in the United States Air Force can exempt this.
At least 1,000 hours flying time as pilot-in-command in jet aircraft. Experience as a test pilot is desirable.
Height must be 5 ft 4 in to 6 ft 4 in (1.63 to 1.93 m).
Distant visual acuity must be correctable to 20/20 in each eye
The refractive surgical procedures of the eye, PRK and LASIK, are now allowed, providing at least 1 year has passed since the date of the procedure with no permanent adverse after effects. For those applicants under final consideration, an operative report on the surgical procedure will be requested.

I believe there is life out there, but the concept of them visiting us all the time seems very laughable to me on many levels. This concept of those who report seeing things as martyrs gets old really fast. This is 2010. We can pinpoint the location and microscopic detail of a mosquito from a satellite in outer space, but we can't seem to capture anything absolutely concrete on large spacecrafts anywhere in the world? Come on, lets be realistic here. The only way this would work is by basically saying there is a worldwide coverup that every government/those "in the know" would 100% agree upon throughout the world to not report irrefutable findings for the "good of man kind" or something along those lines.

You think every country in the world is in on this, or just that the US is the only real country with the ability to cover this kind of thing up and every other country is just still in the dark ages in terms of technology?

I'm siure there are plenty of people who are 100% honest about thinking they know the truth about intelligent life visiting us. Not everyone obviously is lying about what they saw or think they saw. That still does not mean they are correct in saying there are other forms of life visiting us.

I respect your opinion, but i personally think you keep misinterpreting your opinion as meaning there is someting factual about it. There is nothing factual about aliens visiting us and until there one day is, there really is nothing to do except beat a dead horse on the topic.

Gordon Cooper is an american hero and only started to believe in UFO's after he saw one during one of his flight mission on earth, it's not like he is some weird freak like how you claim mitchell to be, and what about all the other astronauts who saw something besides the two we're talking about, I posted a link a while back to who saw what.

Astronauts are credible in that they know the in's and out's of ships made on earth. therefore these guys going around the heavens saying they're seeing things out of this world means that odd's are, these things are out of this world(I do accept that they could be military crafts for some of what was seen, but not most of them)

Idk if we can pinpoint a mosquito from a satellite, but there have been cases where tools have malfunctioned when seeing a ufo, so that could explain some of the cases of they're not being indisputable proof, and a cover up would explain most of it. Think about it, what does the government stand to gain by releasing such information? The expected outcomes are panic and change of human way of living. Idk if the rest of the world is in on it but I know most of the world has had similar stories about ufo's, i know similar evidence has been seen from across the world, and across time. From what I know most governments didn't have one crash land on their soils, and/or have more pressing things to worry about or are capable of worrying about.

And yes I agree with you, just because somebody believes it's true doesn't mean it is, however there have been roughly 15-20 million who believed enough to report seeing something they didn't know, you think all of that is secret crafts? How could so many people be seeing the same thing? Again I'm sure a lot of these are either people being stupid or are genuine military crafts, but it isn't the case for all of them.

I respect and even understand the appeal of your side, but at the end of the day I've seen enough facts to have drawn my own conclusion. And yes you and I have been beating that dead horse (no necro lol)

[Keirik]

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Gordon Cooper is an american hero and only started to believe in UFO's after he saw one during one of his flight mission on earth, it's not like he is some weird freak like how you claim mitchell to be, and what about all the other astronauts who saw something besides the two we're talking about, I posted a link a while back to who saw what.

Astronauts are credible in that they know the in's and out's of ships made on earth. therefore these guys going around the heavens saying they're seeing things out of this world means that odd's are, these things are out of this world(I do accept that they could be military crafts for some of what was seen, but not most of them)

Idk if we can pinpoint a mosquito from a satellite, but there have been cases where tools have malfunctioned when seeing a ufo, so that could explain some of the cases of they're not being indisputable proof, and a cover up would explain most of it. Think about it, what does the government stand to gain by releasing such information? The expected outcomes are panic and change of human way of living. Idk if the rest of the world is in on it but I know most of the world has had similar stories about ufo's, i know similar evidence has been seen from across the world, and across time. From what I know most governments didn't have one crash land on their soils, and/or have more pressing things to worry about or are capable of worrying about.

And yes I agree with you, just because somebody believes it's true doesn't mean it is, however there have been roughly 15-20 million who believed enough to report seeing something they didn't know, you think all of that is secret crafts? How could so many people be seeing the same thing? Again I'm sure a lot of these are either people being stupid or are genuine military crafts, but it isn't the case for all of them.

I respect and even understand the appeal of your side, but at the end of the day I've seen enough facts to have drawn my own conclusion. And yes you and I have been beating that dead horse (no necro lol)

100% wrong about Cooper. He saw his first UFO prior to being an astronaut and clains to chase around UFOs? Lol.

Pioneering astronaut Gordon Cooper denies being the first astronaut to see a UFO while in orbit, but stands by his reports of a strange encounter over Germany in the 1950s.

Cooper flatly denied the long-standing claim, repeated over the years by various authors including UFOlogical saints Allen Hynek and Jacques Valley, that he saw a greenish object with a red tail move past his Mercury 9 spacecraft in 1963.

"No, somebody made a lot of money selling … lies on that one," Cooper, the sixth American in space, told Art Bell on the syndicated "Coast to Coast" talk radio show Thursday night. "It was totally untrue, sorry to say."

However, the retired air force colonel, who once lectured the United Nations on the reality of UFOs, still holds an "unshakable" belief in extraterrestrial intelligence, thanks largely to personal experience.

http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/cooper.html

Cooper also authored the 2000 book Leap of Faith, in which he discussed NASA's early days, his experiences on the Mercury and Gemini missions and his belief in extraterrestrial intelligence. Cooper in the book said that as an Air Force pilot in 1951 that he chased UFOs while based in Germany.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-10-04-cooper-obit_x.htm

Also, once again, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, Astronauts are not experts on the existence of life in the universe. They are experts in the field of being a pilot, and a pilot only. You are confusing two completely different cocepts. Lastly, once again, the concept that every government in the world all have some standing agreement to coverup the existence of aliens is just so far fetched it's borderline insane and the ONLY way governments would be able to cover this kind of thing up would be some sort of insane joint world-wide coverup, or just the aliens decided only to visit the US because they like ihop, taco joints, and McDonalds? Lol. Has absolutely nothing to do with what the government would "gain" by releasing information and everything to do with the impossibility of controlling information on something they would have no control over in an outside form of life being noticed by humans.

[steelcurtain311]

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To say there is no evidence is just ridiculous. have you seen ancient aliens? have you seen some of the videos? have you seen who's saying they're real? Most scientist think there is definitely life in the universe, and yet you guys can't? I mean mathematically it's been proven there is life out there.

And come on, you're gonna group us with the people who believe a dinosaur lives in a lake and a giant monkey that no know every sees. There's a huge difference between ufo's which millions of people have witnessed/chronicled over human civilizations entire history, and those kind of things which are only recently been talked about and rarely anybody, if anybody see's them. the fact that you associated us with them show's your ignorant stigma of ufo's.

And I'm with you, 95% of the ish related to ufo's is fake, but when the government thinks a certain situation involves a ufo, or a plane that's been flying around a ufo suddenly disappears off the radio, or the crystal skull machu pichu and giza that even with today's technology we couldn't make as well as those people seems illogical unless you add the element of outside help.

o and btw those ghost shows are so lame, South Park made fun of that crap perfectly

Ancient Aliens is purely a theoretical show. They take unexplained things from our ancient history and propose the idea that aliens could have been here. It's interesting, as I've stated numerous times in this thread. But to call that evidence is ridiculous. That's not evidence. That's just unexplainable. We don't know how it happened, so they're going with the theory that aliens could have been responsible. We don't know how JFK was killed either, does that mean it was aliens, too?

Where at any point did I say "Aliens don't exist"? All I said is that the videos you people keep posting are bull****. And they are. Youtube videos aren't proof of alien life. Someone saying they seen a UFO isn't proof of alien life. There's a reason why most people on those History channel shows discussing these things have a caption under their name that says "Author of ____" it's because those people have an agenda for being there. It's like the billion of 2012 books that have come out over the past 5 years. You believe the world is going to end in 2012...so why are you making us buy your book?

[dossier]

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100% wrong about Cooper. He saw his first UFO prior to being an astronaut and clains to chase around UFOs? Lol.

thats what I meant, while he was flying in a plane

Also, once again, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not, Astronauts are not experts on the existence of life in the universe. They are experts in the field of being a pilot, and a pilot only. You are confusing two completely different cocepts. Lastly, once again, the concept that every government in the world all have some standing agreement to coverup the existence of aliens is just so far fetched it's borderline insane and the ONLY way governments would be able to cover this kind of thing up would be some sort of insane joint world-wide coverup, or just the aliens decided only to visit the US because they like ihop, taco joints, and McDonalds? Lol. Has absolutely nothing to do with what the government would "gain" by releasing information and everything to do with the impossibility of controlling information on something they would have no control over in an outside form of life being noticed by humans.

I never said they were experts on life, i said they we're experts on devices of aviation, hell even you said they were. therefore they would be able to decide whether something they see is something they've seen or heard about before, or whether there was a craft of which they're never seen and don't understand the technology behind it. So please quit saying that i think they are experts on ET life because they aren't.

Also they're are plenty of countries that actually matter that haven't released any info on the matter. In fact there are more countries who haven't released anything at all than there are who did, and have you personally looked at any of the info released, most of them are bull **** but some of them are unexplainable unless you introduce the idea's of aliens. In addition why are countries that are no where near close to a war or conflict and really aren't a militaristic power be compiling information on UFO's if they didn't think it was credible and therefore worth looking into?

No schizo, but people trust their government too much

[dossier]

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Ancient Aliens is purely a theoretical show. They take unexplained things from our ancient history and propose the idea that aliens could have been here. It's interesting, as I've stated numerous times in this thread. But to call that evidence is ridiculous. That's not evidence. That's just unexplainable. We don't know how it happened, so they're going with the theory that aliens could have been responsible. We don't know how JFK was killed either, does that mean it was aliens, too?

Where at any point did I say "Aliens don't exist"? All I said is that the videos you people keep posting are bull****. And they are. Youtube videos aren't proof of alien life. Someone saying they seen a UFO isn't proof of alien life. There's a reason why most people on those History channel shows discussing these things have a caption under their name that says "Author of ____" it's because those people have an agenda for being there. It's like the billion of 2012 books that have come out over the past 5 years. You believe the world is going to end in 2012...so why are you making us buy your book?

it's not concrete evidence, but it is indirectly evidence. As we've been talking about throughout this thread there were people doing things we can't do today, and we are told they use tools that less powerful than amish people (sorry if there's any amish on OS lol) There are people in high positions in the government claiming to have been apart of something, there are videos and pictures which seem to hint at ET's, there are ancient stories which sound a lot like ufo's.

And come on man you keep comparing UFOlogy(?) with these stupid scenarios again and it dosen't help you. We found a damn bullet in JFK's head after all, now if he died from a weapon that we didn't have at the time and not for another 1000 or so years, then you might be on to something.

I never said you didn't say they exist, i was just saying that the math say's there's a pretty good amount of life out there, and based on that math it isn't far fetched to believe that something that's been around a million years could have and has reached us. People have believed a lot crazier stuff but I won't go into that (TOS) You're right one person saying they saw something isn't considered proof, but what if it's millions upon millions of people over time describing the same stuff, name one other thing that people have been talking about since the dawn of time and the details remain relatively the same, I bet you can't. And yes 95% of the info out there is either BS or explainable, I've agreed with this on many occasions but there are scenarios that are unexplained and we've even had government claim certain situations were due to ufo's.

And the reason most people on the show are authors is because they know what they're talking about, they've done the research. Haven't you noticed it's the same way with just about every other show on the history channel? Does the guy who right a book about Alexander the Great become unreliable and have a hidden agenda? maybe but his information is still correct. just because you write a book doesn't make your opinion moot.

[mKoz26]

Re: Creepy Alien Stories

I never said you didn't say they exist, i was just saying that the math say's there's a pretty good amount of life out there

That's not actually true, even in a universe as vast as this.

Conditions for life (as we know it, at least) may not actually be prevalent anywhere else in the universe. It's too much for me to explain, but I can give you a link to a long video that does the math if you'd like.

[dossier]

Re: Creepy Alien Stories

That's not actually true, even in a universe as vast as this.

Conditions for life (as we know it, at least) may not actually be prevalent anywhere else in the universe. It's too much for me to explain, but I can give you a link to a long video that does the math if you'd like.

yeah that would be good to see