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  • Phobia
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    #121
    Re: Creepy Alien Stories

    Originally posted by Keirik
    lol, once again, great your opinion. There is nothing factual about saying the pyramids or any other structure was aided by aliens. You're confusing the factual of where the structures are located with your opinion on how they got there, but whatever. If you want to keep focusing on trying to somehow justify a wild opinion of aliens building things on our planet based on a factual location then so be it.

    Too bad they dont come visit us again and help fix NY's highway system. It seems to be constructed poorly. We could use a hand.
    I never said it was factual aliens aided in the building of these places! That is my opinion yes you are right. I have stated it was MY OPINION. Quote and bold where I said it was factual aliens helped or built these structures. Because I can quote and bold all the places I said it was my opinion if it makes it easier.

    I said the numbers and stats about these places are factual. I don't understand how that is so hard to understand from what I am writing.
    Last edited by Phobia; 10-01-2010, 03:51 PM.

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    • dossier
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      • Oct 2006
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      #122
      Re: Creepy Alien Stories

      lol at Keirik

      you are the most optimistic historian or you didn't read what he said.

      I never knew about that stuff Phobia, that is pretty crazy. I think I posted earlier all these tools that were around in eras that it would've been impossible for them to have, I'll check on that.

      Inside some of the pyramids they have hieroglyphics of aliens and ufo, even boats, planes, and helicopters
      http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:1,s:0

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      • Phobia
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        #123
        Re: Creepy Alien Stories

        Originally posted by dossier
        lol at Keirik

        you are the most optimistic historian or you didn't read what he said.

        I never knew about that stuff Phobia, that is pretty crazy. I think I posted earlier all these tools that were around in eras that it would've been impossible for them to have, I'll check on that.

        Inside some of the pyramids they have hieroglyphics of aliens and ufo, even boats, planes, and helicopters
        http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:1,s:0
        Great pic dossier. You can really see the copter in it plain as day

        Last edited by Phobia; 10-01-2010, 04:10 PM.

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        • Keirik
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          • Mar 2003
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          #124
          Re: Creepy Alien Stories

          Originally posted by dossier
          lol at Keirik

          you are the most optimistic historian or you didn't read what he said.

          I never knew about that stuff Phobia, that is pretty crazy. I think I posted earlier all these tools that were around in eras that it would've been impossible for them to have, I'll check on that.

          Inside some of the pyramids they have hieroglyphics of aliens and ufo, even boats, planes, and helicopters
          http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:1,s:0
          or i actually kind of studied enough im my scientific masters degree to not believe it's possible for us to have been visited by aliens.

          Again, my opinion, but as anyone in the scientific field will tell you, it's not the job of a community to disprove a wacky theory, but rather prove the validity by the person throwing out the wacky theory.

          We are all allowed opinions, and there are a million things over time that were once unexplained and now scientifically explained. I believe there are other forms of life out there. Not sure how many are advanced or not, but the universe is so large and vast, that the concept that aliens are constantly visiting us over thousands of years just seems silly to me.
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          • Phobia
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            #125
            Re: Creepy Alien Stories

            Another interesting trend was elongated skulls. Cultures that never came in contact with one another was duplicating the same ritual. Some theories is they were attempting to mimic "aliens" and there look. They did this by wrapping twine tightly around the skull from birth to force the skull to grow out the opening in the top.

            I really don't buy into this to much because of the amount of body modification that has been done through different cultures such as elongating the neck, ear loops, lip loops, etc.

            But it is still interesting none the less




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            • wrestlinggod1
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              • Jan 2008
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              #126
              Re: Creepy Alien Stories

              I thought this was a story thread
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              • Phobia
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                #127
                Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                Originally posted by Keirik
                or i actually kind of studied enough im my scientific masters degree to not believe it's possible for us to have been visited by aliens.

                Again, my opinion, but as anyone in the scientific field will tell you, it's not the job of a community to disprove a wacky theory, but rather prove the validity by the person throwing out the wacky theory.

                We are all allowed opinions, and there are a million things over time that were once unexplained and now scientifically explained. I believe there are other forms of life out there. Not sure how many are advanced or not, but the universe is so large and vast, that the concept that aliens are constantly visiting us over thousands of years just seems silly to me.
                Yea we all understand this. But that was never a topic brought up. Instead you said I was throwing around my opinion and I have asked to show me where I said it was a "fact" that aliens built these structures.

                Because it seems you have struggle to comprehend from the start. That I was saying the location (latitude longitude) and facing (North/South) direction of the Great Pyramid was my focal point of all my posts. That is not my opinion, that can be proven which then makes it fact.

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                • fistofrage
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                  #128
                  Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                  Originally posted by Phobia
                  Nothing confrontational. But stating it was my opinion is false. I have supplied what dozens and dozens of scientist and mathematicians have confirmed to be fact. So it has nothing to do with me or my opinion. It is a relay of their knowledge and findings. I don't think you are understanding what I am sharing. It has nothing to do with gods. I completely agree humans believed in gods, they still do to this day. It is the math and precisions on these structures that I am discussing. Nothing to do with their belief system. But how did they perfectly align the Great pyramid on a North/South bearing with no knowledge of North or South? How did they also place this structure at the widest point on the planet? just all coincidence? How are all these mysterious places along one latitude? This is what I am discussing.

                  Also it is not that I discredit human ingenuity. But the fact that average humans in todays age could not duplicate the same things with their tools of that time. Much less the global accuracy that is represented.

                  So yes while it is my opinion the Great Pyramid is a figure of something had to have helped or guided humans. The numbers and stats based on that structure are fact and can be proven, thus making them factual.

                  There are hundreds of findings through ancient cities that are unexplainable. The Mayan calendar being one of the most popular. They knew more about the solar system than we did till the 1980s. So while I (my opinion) don't believe they found out these facts by staring at stars. Mainly because they have plotted and described planets and constellations that are out of view of the human eye or primitive telescopes. So this understanding of the skies had to come from some where. There are many theories on how they could of came about knowing this.
                  Irregardless of who built the pyramids and other structures, I think we are way underestimating the mathematical abilities of other generations and cultures. Math isn't something that is learned as much as it is inherent in some individuals. Occassionally, we encounter a child at a very early age that has understanding of math that is beyond most people's comprehension. We call them prodigies or whatever. Imagine if these people were in surplus to an ancient culture, however, their nation was destroyed by war or disease and the victors did not care to preserve their writings or their were no real writings as the knowledge was inherent to most individuals of the culture.

                  We have accumulated more knowledge than civilizations of the past because that's what time will do. However, I can't say that I would beleive that the average person today has more raw intelligence than a person from an ancient culture.

                  Math is the key to everything, once you have understanding of the abstract, alot of things that seem impossible to the commoner are seen with clarity to the mathematician.

                  I don't know if we have been visited or not but I do know that if things are beyond your comprehension, we have a hard time believing that anyone can comprehend it because we can't picture it. It would be easy to say that ALiens gave the technology to fly, for nuclear energy, for basically all the things that are too complex for the common man.

                  Also history for the most part was written by the Europeans because they were usually the victors and thats what they did. But the dark arges were really a low point in mankind. Basically I think alot was lost during that period.
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                  • Keirik
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                    • Mar 2003
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                    #129
                    Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                    Originally posted by Phobia
                    Yea we all understand this. But that was never a topic brought up. Instead you said I was throwing around my opinion and I have asked to show me where I said it was a "fact" that aliens built these structures.

                    Because it seems you have struggle to comprehend from the start. That I was saying the location (latitude longitude) and facing (North/South) direction of the Great Pyramid was my focal point of all my posts. That is not my opinion, that can be proven which then makes it fact.
                    i'm not having one ioda struggling to comprehend your point. I've said that great, how does the location of those structures prove anything about aliens? Just because you or i can't explain how they were precise means aliens had to have made it? ? That doesn't make any sense scientifically. What is your scientific hypothesis then about the pyramids, Easter Island, or whatever other location you are talking about? That they are too precise to have been solely contructed, planned, built, located, by man and man alone?

                    As for the glyphs, it has already been explained many times in science. Those glyphs haev been modified over time.
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                    • Keirik
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      #130
                      Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                      Originally posted by fistofrage
                      Irregardless of who built the pyramids and other structures, I think we are way underestimating the mathematical abilities of other generations and cultures. Math isn't something that is learned as much as it is inherent in some individuals. Occassionally, we encounter a child at a very early age that has understanding of math that is beyond most people's comprehension. We call them prodigies or whatever. Imagine if these people were in surplus to an ancient culture, however, their nation was destroyed by war or disease and the victors did not care to preserve their writings or their were no real writings as the knowledge was inherent to most individuals of the culture.

                      We have accumulated more knowledge than civilizations of the past because that's what time will do. However, I can't say that I would beleive that the average person today has more raw intelligence than a person from an ancient culture.

                      Math is the key to everything, once you have understanding of the abstract, alot of things that seem impossible to the commoner are seen with clarity to the mathematician.

                      I don't know if we have been visited or not but I do know that if things are beyond your comprehension, we have a hard time believing that anyone can comprehend it because we can't picture it. It would be easy to say that ALiens gave the technology to fly, for nuclear energy, for basically all the things that are too complex for the common man.

                      Also history for the most part was written by the Europeans because they were usually the victors and thats what they did. But the dark arges were really a low point in mankind. Basically I think alot was lost during that period.
                      and to further back your point is the notion that the Egyptians were very good at mathematics.
                      here is a good quote about one way the Egyptians were able to get such precise measurements
                      How did they align the corners of the pyramid so accurately with the four points of the compass? This was the easy part. It just takes a curved wall facing more or less North as judged by the stars. Select a rising star on the Eastern horizon and mark a line on the top of the wall pointing to it. Mark another line on the wall when it is low on the Western horizon. Take the line straight down the wall , using a plumb line, and then extend it along the ground until it meets the other line. Bisect this angle and you now have a line pointing exactly due North.



                      There are any number of very simple methods that can then be employed to construct a right angle that will then align with the other points of the compass. After that its just a question of placing markers in the ground for the four corners of the pyramid. As I said, that part is easy, it does not require alien technology, just a little brain power.

                      How did they achieve such a perfect 52 degree angle of slope? Because they were clever! They were masters of angles, a skill they had acquired in part through astronomy, and also through a good knowledge of mathematics. Each mason that worked on finishing the outer blocks had a template with an angle of 52 degrees that he used to cut his block to fit. After that it was careful alignment of block to block as they placed them carefully on the inner blocks. It was literally done step by step.

                      Mystery solved, that's how it was done. Maybe not using that exact method, but something very like it. There is absolutely no need to suggest that it couldn't be done by man power, and certainly there is no need to go to the ridiculous lengths of suggesting it was done with the help of aliens. That idea is pure nonsense.

                      Why were the pyramids built? They were tombs for the king. The Egyptians had long observed a point in the sky around which all the stars appeared to rotate (the north celestial pole, today marked by the close proximity of the Pole Star) and believed the area to be an immortal place. The alignment of the pyramid to the compass points was to align it with the 'immortal place' in the sky, and the shape was believed to represent the rays of the Sun. The pyramid was in fact a device designed to transport the king to the immortal place so that he may live forever, as would all the workers that assisted in its construction.

                      N.B. The theory of how the pyramids were actually built is not my own pet theory, but one considered by experts in the field as to be the most likely. It is a known fact how the stones were carved out of the quarry. Graffiti inside the pyramid reveals that teams were used in competition with one another, with the best performers receiving 'bonuses' of extra beer or days off. The workers village is a known fact. The ramp from the quarry to the pyramid is a known fact. That the huge work force was recruited is a known historical fact. The labour force required and the time it would have taken has been very carefully calculated. The type of ramps used is open to question, but all are agreed that ramps were used, there is no other way it could have been done. And it was done - by men!


                      Also, lets not forget that the Egyptians were very Astronomically orientated which aided them greatly.
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                      • Cusefan
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                        • Oct 2003
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                        #131
                        Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                        Originally posted by Keirik
                        lol, once again, great your opinion. There is nothing factual about saying the pyramids or any other structure was aided by aliens. You're confusing the factual of where the structures are located with your opinion on how they got there, but whatever. If you want to keep focusing on trying to somehow justify a wild opinion of aliens building things on our planet based on a factual location then so be it.

                        Too bad they dont come visit us again and help fix NY's highway system. It seems to be constructed poorly. We could use a hand.
                        All you have to do it look at the culture of these civilizations and take these great wonders and compare. Some simply do not fit with the culture. You mentioned the great wall of China, That provided tangible protection for China, The Great Pyramids were built for no discernible reason, we have only theories as to why they exist. Fact is, It has been over 4,000 years since these were built and we still have no clue how they built them and how they did it with such accuracy. Hell Today we use GPS, Computers, Formulas, etc etc, and we still mess up contruction, These Egyptians did it with incredible precision.

                        I think the most under looked part of the Pyramids are they were actually built. Think about this for a second, Imagine the money, People, and resources it would take to build something like this. Even if you were using slaves, it would still cost a unimaginable amount of money. Dont you think that a Military General or someone within the Government would put the kibosh on something this huge unless it had a amazing benefit?

                        I really think that most people underlook the unimaginable feat of building these Pyramids. It is a shame the Egyptians did not write any hieroglyphics explaining anything about these ridiculous structures that they built.
                        Last edited by Cusefan; 10-01-2010, 04:54 PM.
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                        • Phobia
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                          #132
                          Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                          Originally posted by fistofrage
                          Irregardless of who built the pyramids and other structures, I think we are way underestimating the mathematical abilities of other generations and cultures. Math isn't something that is learned as much as it is inherent in some individuals. Occassionally, we encounter a child at a very early age that has understanding of math that is beyond most people's comprehension. We call them prodigies or whatever. Imagine if these people were in surplus to an ancient culture, however, their nation was destroyed by war or disease and the victors did not care to preserve their writings or their were no real writings as the knowledge was inherent to most individuals of the culture.

                          We have accumulated more knowledge than civilizations of the past because that's what time will do. However, I can't say that I would beleive that the average person today has more raw intelligence than a person from an ancient culture.

                          Math is the key to everything, once you have understanding of the abstract, alot of things that seem impossible to the commoner are seen with clarity to the mathematician.

                          I don't know if we have been visited or not but I do know that if things are beyond your comprehension, we have a hard time believing that anyone can comprehend it because we can't picture it. It would be easy to say that ALiens gave the technology to fly, for nuclear energy, for basically all the things that are too complex for the common man.

                          Also history for the most part was written by the Europeans because they were usually the victors and thats what they did. But the dark arges were really a low point in mankind. Basically I think alot was lost during that period.
                          Great post Fist and could really be the truth. The human brain is insane. For instance that man they had on Stan Lee's Super Human that could calculate faster than any calculator and he had no idea he could even do it himself. Saying that the numbers just came to him.

                          So it could very well be possible they had cultures that had brilliant mathematicians which help create some of the things we feel would be impossible for them of that day

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                          • Phobia
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                            #133
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                            Originally posted by Cusefan
                            All you have to do it look at the culture of these civilizations and take these great wonders and compare. Some simply do not fit with the culture. You mentioned the great wall of China, That provided tangible protection for China, The Great Pyramids were built for no discernible reason, we have only theories as to why they exist. Fact is, It has been over 4,000 years since these were built and we still have no clue how they built them and how they did it with such accuracy. Hell Today we use GPS, Computers, Formulas, etc etc, and we still mess up contruction, These Egyptians did it with incredible precision.

                            I think the most under looked part of the Pyramids are they were actually built. Think about this for a second, Imagine the money, People, and resources it would take to build something like this. Even if you were using slaves, it would still cost a unimaginable amount of money. Dont you think that a Military General or someone within the Government would put the kibosh on something this huge unless it had a amazing benefit?

                            I really think that most people underlook the unimaginable feat of building these Pyramids. It is a shame the Egyptians did not write any hieroglyphics explaining anything about these ridiculous structures that they built.
                            Another interesting thing about that is that they kept incrediable records for just about everything. Yet they have recovered no records of them constructing it.

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                            • Phobia
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                              #134
                              Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                              Originally posted by Keirik
                              i'm not having one ioda struggling to comprehend your point. I've said that great, how does the location of those structures prove anything about aliens? Just because you or i can't explain how they were precise means aliens had to have made it? ? That doesn't make any sense scientifically. What is your scientific hypothesis then about the pyramids, Easter Island, or whatever other location you are talking about? That they are too precise to have been solely contructed, planned, built, located, by man and man alone?

                              As for the glyphs, it has already been explained many times in science. Those glyphs haev been modified over time.
                              http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html
                              I never said it explained it was built by aliens. I was sharing the info about the placement of these structures and the stats with these places

                              I stated back on like my second post in this thread that it is MY (meaning my opinion) single biggest reason for believing something had to help these people.

                              You are welcome to believe in what you wish. I am just sharing info.

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                              • dossier
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                                #135
                                Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                                ok I think this has gone on enough, if you don't believe in aliens there isn't much of a point of you being in here is there?

                                How's this for a theory, what if aliens created human civilization, that the story of adam and eve were the original two people and humans are some sort of alien experiment?

                                Any theories on the aliens?

                                EDIT: and I wanted to post this picture of the ufo over china I mentioned before with new technology I just learned, so that all can see it:
                                Last edited by dossier; 10-01-2010, 05:16 PM.

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