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  • dossier
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 2272

    #151
    Re: Creepy Alien Stories

    Originally posted by Keirik
    well, i apologize. I didn't realize you were the expert in knowing the Chinese military and their intentions. Heck, im only a humble American who lived there before. What would i know compared to your extensive knowledge on the subject

    I do believe there is life elsewhere, but i believe the concept of another life form constantly visiting us over the history of mankind without any real tangible evidence completely laughable. The only evidence of anything is just unexplainable stuff that takes a wild imagination to draw conclusions that it must be alien made/helped/thought of, ESPECIALLY considering the concept of a government trying to cover things up is a very new and recent one.

    It wasn't that long ago that people believed Mars once had another intelligent life form on it due to the presence of canals. Recently it's been discovered most likely they were from what used to be water on the planet.

    You want a logical explanation? Okay, how about the fact that the universe is made up of approximately one sextillion stars (10^21) and about 100 billion observable galaxies out there in an ever expanding universe (meaning things are spreading out even farther). Even if you disregard the laws of physics since they are human made anyway and dont apply everywhere, the idea that another life form can find us that easily and manage to constantly visit us this often is something out of science fiction at best.


    As i already said. The proof isn't on me for anything. Logic is on my side. Wild claims need a heck of a lot more proof than saying Pyramids and fuzzy pictures prove anything.
    I mean c'mon "hey lets fly our super advanced warfighter around our citizens to see if they recognize it"
    ok the chinese thing we won't know, so let's drop that, but just because there are so many planets doesn't mean they can't reach us. Like you said the universe is huge, and has been around for a long time, so who is to say a civilization hasn't been intelligent for 100,000 years. Imagine where humanity would be by then. for all we know in the grand scheme of things there are more planets with life then there arn't. We just know whats based off our own solar system, and what we think we see.

    I mean it wasn't long ago that people would be as passionate as you in trying to convince me the world is flat. and it's not like there was a significant amount of people of on there own(with out the media inspiring them) who actually though intelligent life was on earth. There was speculation that there was ice on the planet and in terms water, the basis of life.

    Logic isn't on your side, because if that were the case then you could logically explain half the occurences in this thread.

    How do you explain high class officers seeing ufo's and presidents seeing them? How do you explain people seeing phenomena that even scientist don't know. Just because I can't explain certain scenarios doesn't mean that they can't be aliens.

    EDIT: You don't believe in Aliens, I do, after your reply which I'm sure is coming lets just drop it at that
    Last edited by dossier; 10-01-2010, 07:48 PM.

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    • cubsfan203
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 6689

      #152
      Re: Creepy Alien Stories

      Originally posted by Keirik
      in an ever expanding universe (meaning things are spreading out even farther).
      This is pretty off topic and pointless, but that might not be entirely true. Apparently some studies have shown that the very edge of the universe as we know it is moving towards us, meaning that either (a) at some point the universe could be contracting or (b) I can't give you because I was distracted by an attractive female when my professor was going over it.

      I probably explained that terribly, but if you have a science degree hopefully you can make sense of it.

      As for the aliens. I'm torn. I don't personally believe we are visited by them, but I believe they exist. Just because we haven't seen them, doens't mean anything. Keep in mind that the stars we can actually see are basically looking into the past. We don't see them how they are now, but how they were millions or even billions of years ago. So who's to say some of them couldn't be little utopias right now.
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      • e0820
        MVP
        • Jan 2003
        • 2070

        #153
        Re: Creepy Alien Stories

        Originally posted by dossier
        Anyone else got some stories
        In 1991 I was working as an attendant for Waste Management so I would work events and periodically clean a trailer that had washrooms inside. So I working a wedding at an estate in their sprawling backyard. I was looking at greenbar sheets of cobold code on a chair around 1am and I looked up and seen a object go at a steady speed and it was a profile view and the it had lights that were white red and yellow and they looked like they were going in a circle around the craft because they would disappear from one end and reappear from another, it didnt seem like blinking.

        A few years ago I was in my yard on my deck and in the corner of my yard in the distance I seen blue glowing lights and they would move around in any direction but their were two and seemed like they always were the same distance apart. I must of watched them for about 10 minutes, it was right near sundown.

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        • Cusefan
          Earlwolfx on XBL
          • Oct 2003
          • 9820

          #154
          Re: Creepy Alien Stories

          Originally posted by Keirik
          there is a military facility in that nearby area. Heck, China has a ton of military facilities all over the place. There are quite a few reasons why a military experiment would occur over an airport. Maybe to test and see if locals could recognize and identify the object? Maybe to see if a local radar could pick it or or be evaded? Maybe just to test countless other things. I don't know, i'm not part of the Chinese military, but it's certainly done very differently there than here. Who knows.

          The articles prove there are a heck of a lot more logical explanations than it being from another world.
          Please give me a logical explanation that would explain why China flew a Top secret, glowing aircraft over a heavily populated city.

          This is not a Military aircraft, There is no possible way anyone in China(or the world) would be so stupid as to make a Aircraft that visible at night. You Mentioned the Stealth Bomber, well you could fly that at night because it would be very hard to see.

          Im not going to say that it is a UFO because I do not know. That is the Correct answer here, I DO NOT KNOW. Saying flat out one way or another is just stupid, because YOU DO NOT KNOW.
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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #155
            Re: Creepy Alien Stories

            Originally posted by Cusefan
            Please give me a logical explanation that would explain why China flew a Top secret, glowing aircraft over a heavily populated city.

            This is not a Military aircraft, There is no possible way anyone in China(or the world) would be so stupid as to make a Aircraft that visible at night. You Mentioned the Stealth Bomber, well you could fly that at night because it would be very hard to see.

            Im not going to say that it is a UFO because I do not know. That is the Correct answer here, I DO NOT KNOW. Saying flat out one way or another is just stupid, because YOU DO NOT KNOW.
            Very well said and to add to that. People that hold security clearances higher than any little ol peon in here are speaking out saying that our governments are withholding info speaks volumes.

            We trust these people with a 2 billion dollar nuke sub. Then responsibility of being on stand by that you could receive a call at some point to fire these life erasing missiles. But the moment that same guy says, our government is holding information out that there is something going on.....well they must be nuts.

            Then the same occurrences are happening all over the world and same accounts. Tribes and little tuck away cultures are making primitive record of accounts that a place 1000s of miles away is making the same accounts. That tribe does not even know that place exists much place collaborate this grand hoax.

            Pretty much the way I see it is like this. There is for sure something being documented in the air. There are hundreds of videos and pretty solid records such as the black boxes, police reports, massive military records, etc. People have been seeing planes and jets for a long time now. They know the shape of the standard objects in the sky weather it is a helicopter, jet, blimp, balloon, fixed wing, etc. Videos and videos and videos of round objects captures attention because it is rare in the sky.

            So I do believe something is in the sky people are seeing. Do I believe it is aliens?? Not so much. I lean much heavier on the military side of things. The harrier jump jet was created 20 something years before the first accounts of it being introduced in combat. A ton of our high tech weapons now have been around for 15 years or so. I believe we the people are shown only a slight scribble of what we can do. Reason being it is our ace in the hole.

            These standard disk versions have ufos were being designed 60 years ago by our military. Imagine where our military would be in 60 to 100 years from now. So I believe a lot of what is spotted on your standard ufo videos caught by average people is military testing because it occurs around a lot of military base cities.

            BUT with that said. If you look at the age of earth and where knowledge of humans came about till now. It is like a 1" line on a 28 mile stretch. The time scale we know of the earth in relation to us as humans is extremely small.

            So I heard the scientist talking about how the earth goes through these climate shifts because of the wobble of the rotation. Anti-global warming theory basically. This is just natural progression of the life cycle.

            What if we have done this a few times on the time scale of the earth. Advanced as a culture with technology to possibly leave. I think on the grand scheme of things it could be possible at some point with our technology advances we have at such a insane rate. We leave and find a habitable planet within reach. They might want to see the place and observe this cycle and study it.

            Earth goes through its natural changes extreme heat and flooding. Global death, then the life cycle starts back over. Earth is what 4.2 billion years old. Humans are dated back to 100,000 years only. I think it could be possible. I am no expert but that has kind of been my idea. I think military is heavy involved but I also think life is out there somewhere. Place is huge, could they have come from here or found here. I have no idea, but I would love to know though lol. Either way I would not care. If its military cool, we got some cool stuff. If they know its something coming from somewhere else. That would be interesting also.









            I am just saying I think these look a lot like the stuff we were buiding

            Last edited by Phobia; 10-02-2010, 12:01 AM.

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            • av7
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 11408

              #156
              Re: Creepy Alien Stories

              The only thing that saucer plane did was make the test pilots throw up
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              • dossier
                Banned
                • Oct 2006
                • 2272

                #157
                Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                Originally posted by Phobia
                Very well said and to add to that. People that hold security clearances higher than any little ol peon in here are speaking out saying that our governments are withholding info speaks volumes.

                We trust these people with a 2 billion dollar nuke sub. Then responsibility of being on stand by that you could receive a call at some point to fire these life erasing missiles. But the moment that same guy says, our government is holding information out that there is something going on.....well they must be nuts.

                Then the same occurrences are happening all over the world and same accounts. Tribes and little tuck away cultures are making primitive record of accounts that a place 1000s of miles away is making the same accounts. That tribe does not even know that place exists much place collaborate this grand hoax.

                Pretty much the way I see it is like this. There is for sure something being documented in the air. There are hundreds of videos and pretty solid records such as the black boxes, police reports, massive military records, etc. People have been seeing planes and jets for a long time now. They know the shape of the standard objects in the sky weather it is a helicopter, jet, blimp, balloon, fixed wing, etc. Videos and videos and videos of round objects captures attention because it is rare in the sky.

                So I do believe something is in the sky people are seeing. Do I believe it is aliens?? Not so much. I lean much heavier on the military side of things. The harrier jump jet was created 20 something years before the first accounts of it being introduced in combat. A ton of our high tech weapons now have been around for 15 years or so. I believe we the people are shown only a slight scribble of what we can do. Reason being it is our ace in the hole.

                These standard disk versions have ufos were being designed 60 years ago by our military. Imagine where our military would be in 60 to 100 years from now. So I believe a lot of what is spotted on your standard ufo videos caught by average people is military testing because it occurs around a lot of military base cities.

                BUT with that said. If you look at the age of earth and where knowledge of humans came about till now. It is like a 1" line on a 28 mile stretch. The time scale we know of the earth in relation to us as humans is extremely small.

                So I heard the scientist talking about how the earth goes through these climate shifts because of the wobble of the rotation. Anti-global warming theory basically. This is just natural progression of the life cycle.

                What if we have done this a few times on the time scale of the earth. Advanced as a culture with technology to possibly leave. I think on the grand scheme of things it could be possible at some point with our technology advances we have at such a insane rate. We leave and find a habitable planet within reach. They might want to see the place and observe this cycle and study it.

                Earth goes through its natural changes extreme heat and flooding. Global death, then the life cycle starts back over. Earth is what 4.2 billion years old. Humans are dated back to 100,000 years only. I think it could be possible. I am no expert but that has kind of been my idea. I think military is heavy involved but I also think life is out there somewhere. Place is huge, could they have come from here or found here. I have no idea, but I would love to know though lol. Either way I would not care. If its military cool, we got some cool stuff. If they know its something coming from somewhere else. That would be interesting also.









                I am just saying I think these look a lot like the stuff we were buiding

                wow I had no idea we were trying to build stuff like that long ago, but to me they seem to not work like a standard ufo. Eye witness reports have them moving incredibly fast and able to move in any direction anytime it wants. These seem to only be a flying saucer in shape.

                In addition I can't see militaries letting there top secret war machines fly around cities and civilians in any way. There is no motive any the actions of the ufo's seem anything but human(flying around in seemingly random manners, investigating of civilian crafts)

                Watch one of those u.s.a. pictures be a real ufo. lol

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                • DaveDQ
                  13
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 7664

                  #158
                  Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                  Has anyone ever heard Bob Dean and his interviews with Project Camelot? They are on youtube. I'm up and down with what he says but it's very interesting.

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                  • Keirik
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 3770

                    #159
                    Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                    Originally posted by Cusefan
                    Please give me a logical explanation that would explain why China flew a Top secret, glowing aircraft over a heavily populated city.

                    This is not a Military aircraft, There is no possible way anyone in China(or the world) would be so stupid as to make a Aircraft that visible at night. You Mentioned the Stealth Bomber, well you could fly that at night because it would be very hard to see.

                    Im not going to say that it is a UFO because I do not know. That is the Correct answer here, I DO NOT KNOW. Saying flat out one way or another is just stupid, because YOU DO NOT KNOW.
                    who said one word about anything top secret? You? Why wouldn't China fly military missions near a military base? lol. You're right, i don't know. However, i'm not gonna say that since "i don't know" means "OMG it must be aliens!!! WOWZZZZZ"

                    By the way, the stealth bomber has notihng to do with being flown at night or in the day, lol. It has to do with how it's picked up on radar. It's irrlevent if it's seen in the day or not.

                    So it's just a coincidence the Chinese gov't is saying they didn't comment on it earlier because it was military related???????? lol, use logic man. It aint that hard. As for a "heavily populated city" Huanghzhou is hardly any more populated than any other place.
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                    • Keirik
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 3770

                      #160
                      Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                      Originally posted by avrbas
                      The only thing that saucer plane did was make the test pilots throw up
                      LOL!!!

                      Think about it this way though. From a purely militaristic concept, what better spy plane would there ever be besides one that looked "alien" and sparked more scare and wonder rather than anything threatening national security. It's almost brilliant.
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                      • dossier
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2272

                        #161
                        Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                        Keirik's gonna love this.

                        I just got done watching this history channel about ancient viewings of aliens and things like that. And they talked about several bibles scripts being in essentially sounding very alien in nature. They talked about the nazca lines and alot of the stuff phobia mentioned plus more. I'll have to watch it again and give details then, but they're very interesting.

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                        • Fresh Tendrils
                          Strike Hard and Fade Away
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 36131

                          #162
                          Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                          The History Channel at about 2AM is kind of scary.



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                          • dossier
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2272

                            #163
                            Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                            The History Channel at about 2AM is kind of scary.
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                            • Russell_SCEA
                              SCEA Community Manager
                              • May 2005
                              • 4161

                              #164
                              Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                              Did you guys hear about what Ben Rich supposedly said on his death bed. It's about two weeks old I think. Just google Ben Rich CEO of Lockheed Skunkworks. Below is one of the links.


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                              • soltrain
                                The Batman
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6863

                                #165
                                Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                                It's obvious Keirik is either an alien or works for the government.
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