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  • TMagic
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    • Apr 2007
    • 7550

    #271
    Re: Creepy Alien Stories

    Just curious as to why Aliens are always thought of being so much more advanced than us?

    Isn't it just as probable that they don't have much intelligence. That they go through life like animals on our planet, with no thoughts of the outside world and just going about everyday doing things that help with their survival with no conscious thought (like an ant or spider)?

    And could it be possible that they move and think extremely slowly? Like 1/1000th of the speed we move and do things here on earth?

    Or that they aren't "invisible", just terribly small? Naked to the human eye or any high powered microscope. Hell, we could be crushing those little suckers right now with every step we take. Or on the opposite side of things, they can be utterly massive.

    There are just endless possibilities. I'm just curious as to why we always give them supreme intelligence, similar thought patterns, light speed, and are about the same size as us here. It just seems like we tend to think of ET's with on a very narrow scope.
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    • fistofrage
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      • Aug 2002
      • 13682

      #272
      Re: Creepy Alien Stories

      Originally posted by TMagic
      Just curious as to why Aliens are always thought of being so much more advanced than us?

      Isn't it just as probable that they don't have much intelligence. That they go through life like animals on our planet, with no thoughts of the outside world and just going about everyday doing things that help with their survival with no conscious thought (like an ant or spider)?

      And could it be possible that they move and think extremely slowly? Like 1/1000th of the speed we move and do things here on earth?

      Or that they aren't "invisible", just terribly small? Naked to the human eye or any high powered microscope. Hell, we could be crushing those little suckers right now with every step we take. Or on the opposite side of things, they can be utterly massive.

      There are just endless possibilities. I'm just curious as to why we always give them supreme intelligence, similar thought patterns, light speed, and are about the same size as us here. It just seems like we tend to think of ET's with on a very narrow scope.
      Its because when people are talking about aliens, they are talking about life forms that have traveled through space to get here. Therefore, they must be highly intelligent because we can't even comprehend how to get to any planets that we have deemed habitable.

      I am certain there is life out there somewhere. But I also believe that humans are the most advanced life form and we are not being visited.

      I am not commenting either way on evolution, but just fathom the odds of a single cell ameba could someday transform itself into a human being.............Its beyond comprehension. So even if it did happen somewhere else, the odds are so remote that it has advanced this far or even more remote that they have harnassed the ability to travel millions of light years to get here or discovered the necessary wormholes and techniques to do so.

      That is unless of course you subscribe to the natural order of things theory, that would state that given the same circumstances as we have on earth, the natural order of things would result in the same end result. And given the fact there are so many stars, it is almost certain that there is a planet out there that mimics earth. If infact space is limitless, and infinite, there would have to be some pattern to the solar systems, etc, and eventually there would be another set of circumstances that mimic our solar system or favor life as we understand it.
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      • HealyMonster
        Titans Era has begun.
        • Aug 2002
        • 5992

        #273
        Re: Creepy Alien Stories

        Originally posted by TMagic
        Just curious as to why Aliens are always thought of being so much more advanced than us?

        Point Blank: Its because we dont have the technology to go anywhere let alone another thriving planet therefore if we encounter legitimate aliens from another planet, they are coming here to earth which in turn automatically puts them well more advanced then we are. We wont encounter a "lesser" life-form until we go out and start exploring planets in the far reaches of space.

        ok fist of rage got it in before mine same concept....

        in response to fist: I am in the general mindframe of you, but I also think of this: Earth was created whenever it was created 4-6 billion years ago, whatever they are saying these days....

        now if there was a planet like earth that was created just before earth in the scale of the universe that could be like 500 million years, i mean say the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs doesnt happen on earth, are we in turn a few million years ahead of schedule at that point since there was no "re-do"? you know what Im saying? Imagine of we were 2,000 years more advanced then we are now, thats a pretty significant leap but in terms of the universe its like a split second. so I mean if humans are around 3,000 years from now who the heck knows what they will be capable of I mean we have an iphone now, imagine what we will have in 3,000 years its crazy to think but in reality if another lifeform is out there and they got started the slightest bit before us, they are probably an un-understandable amount more advanced than us.
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        • dossier
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 2272

          #274
          Re: Creepy Alien Stories

          Originally posted by TMagic
          Just curious as to why Aliens are always thought of being so much more advanced than us?

          Isn't it just as probable that they don't have much intelligence. That they go through life like animals on our planet, with no thoughts of the outside world and just going about everyday doing things that help with their survival with no conscious thought (like an ant or spider)?

          And could it be possible that they move and think extremely slowly? Like 1/1000th of the speed we move and do things here on earth?

          Or that they aren't "invisible", just terribly small? Naked to the human eye or any high powered microscope. Hell, we could be crushing those little suckers right now with every step we take. Or on the opposite side of things, they can be utterly massive.

          There are just endless possibilities. I'm just curious as to why we always give them supreme intelligence, similar thought patterns, light speed, and are about the same size as us here. It just seems like we tend to think of ET's with on a very narrow scope.
          Well I think the stereotype is that aliens can travel and thing of that nature. Most people would rather see something else intelligent as we don't know anything like that besides humans.

          I'm even willing to bet the majority of people think that there is without a doubt bacteria and other life forms out there, it's just intelligent one's seem as rare in the universe as they are on this planet, which is one of billions of species'. That's what I don't get about Earth's evolution, we were monkeys who were vaguely smarter than most animals around, and then all of a sudden we become essentially gods with brain capabilities of surpassing even smart computers. how the f*** did that happen?

          and invisible aliens has crossed my mind, just trying to make my title respectable.

          And to Rider, look at how far we came from just 200 years ago, we have bullet trains, can get to space, got the speed of sound etc. Imagine what our kid's kids will be playing with. I remember hearing that our technology doubles every seven years, I mean that is incredible.

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          • fistofrage
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 13682

            #275
            Re: Creepy Alien Stories

            Originally posted by RiderGH
            Point Blank: Its because we dont have the technology to go anywhere let alone another thriving planet therefore if we encounter legitimate aliens from another planet, they are coming here to earth which in turn automatically puts them well more advanced then we are. We wont encounter a "lesser" life-form until we go out and start exploring planets in the far reaches of space.

            ok fist of rage got it in before mine same concept....

            in response to fist: I am in the general mindframe of you, but I also think of this: Earth was created whenever it was created 4-6 billion years ago, whatever they are saying these days....

            now if there was a planet like earth that was created just before earth in the scale of the universe that could be like 500 million years, i mean say the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs doesnt happen on earth, are we in turn a few million years ahead of schedule at that point since there was no "re-do"? you know what Im saying? Imagine of we were 2,000 years more advanced then we are now, thats a pretty significant leap but in terms of the universe its like a split second. so I mean if humans are around 3,000 years from now who the heck knows what they will be capable of I mean we have an iphone now, imagine what we will have in 3,000 years its crazy to think but in reality if another lifeform is out there and they got started the slightest bit before us, they are probably an un-understandable amount more advanced than us.
            At the rate we are advancing from a technology standpoint, even in the last 50 years I find it hard to believe that humans as we know them came to be hundreds of thousands of years ago. I don't want to violate any TOS and I'm not saying one way or the other, but I personally believe the time lines that have been presented to us are messed up. I was reading an article about how some elephants got stuck on an island and in what appeared to be 3 generations they had already mutated and were smaller to adapt to their habitat. Look how fast humans adapt to technology. If the earth is millions of years old, I am inclined to believe that humans have lived, relatively died out and come back multiple times.
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            • Keirik
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 3770

              #276
              Re: Creepy Alien Stories

              guys, it would be very hard to see aliens. They are very good at blending in with our culture.
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              • mKoz26
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                • Jan 2009
                • 4685

                #277
                Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                Originally posted by TMagic
                Just curious as to why Aliens are always thought of being so much more advanced than us?

                Isn't it just as probable that they don't have much intelligence. That they go through life like animals on our planet, with no thoughts of the outside world and just going about everyday doing things that help with their survival with no conscious thought (like an ant or spider)?

                And could it be possible that they move and think extremely slowly? Like 1/1000th of the speed we move and do things here on earth?

                Or that they aren't "invisible", just terribly small? Naked to the human eye or any high powered microscope. Hell, we could be crushing those little suckers right now with every step we take. Or on the opposite side of things, they can be utterly massive.

                There are just endless possibilities. I'm just curious as to why we always give them supreme intelligence, similar thought patterns, light speed, and are about the same size as us here. It just seems like we tend to think of ET's with on a very narrow scope.
                I was just going to post this. These thoughts always occur to me when I think about the extraterrestrial.

                We always assume these aliens are similar to us. Even RiderGH's thought process (which I like btw) asked what we would do if we were invading another planet as aliens. Their thought process is almost sure to be completely different from ours, unless you believe that we are all connected. (I won't get into that, that's borderline against TOS)

                If you believe in the "existence just by sheer numbers" theory, those numbers would probably also lead you to believe there are hundreds of millions of different kinds of aliens, but people don't tend to think that way.

                From what our 'advanced' science tells us, the sun is very small relative to other stars in the universe. What we call aliens may be the size of our largest buildings or, on the contrary, an entire civilization could fit in our palms. Maybe atoms aren't the smallest particle in the universe. Also, while I'm questioning our science, why do our laws of physics, gravity and inertia and what have you, have to be correct? They may apply on Earth, but who's to say that they are universal laws, that they cannot be disproved.

                Just some food for thought.
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                • Stroehms
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2640

                  #278
                  Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                  Originally posted by fistofrage
                  At the rate we are advancing from a technology standpoint, even in the last 50 years I find it hard to believe that humans as we know them came to be hundreds of thousands of years ago. I don't want to violate any TOS and I'm not saying one way or the other, but I personally believe the time lines that have been presented to us are messed up. I was reading an article about how some elephants got stuck on an island and in what appeared to be 3 generations they had already mutated and were smaller to adapt to their habitat. Look how fast humans adapt to technology. If the earth is millions of years old, I am inclined to believe that humans have lived, relatively died out and come back multiple times.
                  My mind has been blown.

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                  • fistofrage
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13682

                    #279
                    Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                    So I was watching Ancient Aliens last night and they were showing Machu Picchu and Engytian Structures.

                    Machu Picchu is pretty much as impressive as the pyramids if you look at it. The way all the rocks were the exact same size and fit together perfectly. One person believes they had a way to melt rocks and form them. I actually think this is the case. Don't know how, but I think the technology was there.

                    They also analyzes the heaviest man altered and moved rocks. The largest one weighed in at 2100 Tons or 4.2 Million pounds. On top of that Rock beig moved, there were othe similar sized items placed on them. We don't have any equipment that could move these types of items. Whatever they did, it was easier for them to move those rocks than we imagined, I am convinced of that. Telekynisis, possibly.

                    Thing is, neither of these examples have to have Alien intervention, just advanced technologies that weren't passed on for whatever reason.

                    Intriguing stuff to be sure, but just because something is beyond our comprehension doesn't mean its alien.

                    Ever seen Good Will Hunting? Imagine an isolated society that had many Will Huntings in it. People with understand beyond even what our brightest minds today have. Except they were peaceful and were whiped out by an agrressive enemy who was less intelligent, but more violant. I think the ancients discovered alot of technologies but because they were smarter than the tribes around them they tended to be more peaceful and also viewed as more of a threat and were eventually whiped out.
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                    • Phobia
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11623

                      #280
                      Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                      Originally posted by fistofrage
                      So I was watching Ancient Aliens last night and they were showing Machu Picchu and Engytian Structures.

                      Machu Picchu is pretty much as impressive as the pyramids if you look at it. The way all the rocks were the exact same size and fit together perfectly. One person believes they had a way to melt rocks and form them. I actually think this is the case. Don't know how, but I think the technology was there.

                      They also analyzes the heaviest man altered and moved rocks. The largest one weighed in at 2100 Tons or 4.2 Million pounds. On top of that Rock beig moved, there were othe similar sized items placed on them. We don't have any equipment that could move these types of items. Whatever they did, it was easier for them to move those rocks than we imagined, I am convinced of that. Telekynisis, possibly.

                      Thing is, neither of these examples have to have Alien intervention, just advanced technologies that weren't passed on for whatever reason.

                      Intriguing stuff to be sure, but just because something is beyond our comprehension doesn't mean its alien.

                      Ever seen Good Will Hunting? Imagine an isolated society that had many Will Huntings in it. People with understand beyond even what our brightest minds today have. Except they were peaceful and were whiped out by an agrressive enemy who was less intelligent, but more violant. I think the ancients discovered alot of technologies but because they were smarter than the tribes around them they tended to be more peaceful and also viewed as more of a threat and were eventually whiped out.
                      We have yet to discover anything that would lead people to believe they had this technology. No different than fossils of the dinosaurs, you would think we would find machines or some form of advanced civilization deep in the layers of rock.

                      So while I believe it could be entirely possible the Earth goes through life cycles and humans have advanced many times over in the course of 4 billion years. But the part that stumps me. Wouldn't we have evidence of advanced life here buried in the Earth??? Advanced machines, computers, mechanical working devices, etc.

                      But since we have found none of these kinds of equipment it makes it even more baffling. Reason being is that they can say the pyramids were built by 1000s and 1000s of workers. But some of these other mysterious places built along the same longitude did not have the civilization size to construct some of the places they have discovered. We are talking small cultures with amazing structures that are still unexplainable even with our modern day technology.

                      So the next question is HOW did these people construct these places. It was either a few possibilities. A) They did it with massive amount of workers and our calculations on civilization size was way off. B) They did it with super advanced technology that even use at this stage can't understand. But the question remains, where did this stuff go?? C) A super advanced civilization from another planet came and helped these people.

                      A) is the most logical but goes against modern historian belief.
                      C) is next in line is possibility. Because the chance of a planet holding life more advanced than our is more possible than a civilization being extremely advanced on our very own planet.
                      B) falls last in line with not even the slightest bit of hard evidence to say it could be possible a culture was more advanced than our most advanced country now. At least the Alien theory has the size, numbers, and semi hard evidence supporting life outside of our planet.

                      A meteorite from Mars that was studied here and said to have carried bacteria from Mars.

                      So we at least have some semi-hard (LOL) proof that life has been supported outside of just our planet.

                      Meteorite with bacteria
                      Last edited by Phobia; 10-22-2010, 11:14 AM.

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                      • fistofrage
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13682

                        #281
                        Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                        Originally posted by Phobia
                        We have yet to discover anything that would lead people to believe they had this technology. No different than fossils of the dinosaurs, you would think we would find machines or some form of advanced civilization deep in the layers of rock.

                        So while I believe it could be entirely possible the Earth goes through life cycles and humans have advanced many times over in the course of 4 billion years. But the part that stumps me. Wouldn't we have evidence of advanced life here buried in the Earth??? Advanced machines, computers, mechanical working devices, etc.

                        But since we have found none of these kinds of equipment it makes it even more baffling. Reason being is that they can say the pyramids were built by 1000s and 1000s of workers. But some of these other mysterious places built along the same longitude did not have the civilization size to construct some of the places they have discovered. We are talking small cultures with amazing structures that are still unexplainable even with our modern day technology.

                        So the next question is HOW did these people construct these places. It was either a few possibilities. A) They did it with massive amount of workers and our calculations on civilization size was way off. B) They did it with super advanced technology that even use at this stage can't understand. But the question remains, where did this stuff go?? C) A super advanced civilization from another planet came and helped these people.

                        A) is the most logical but goes against modern historian belief.
                        C) is next in line is possibility. Because the chance of a planet holding life more advanced than our is more possible than a civilization being extremely advanced on our very own planet.
                        B) falls last in line with not even the slightest bit of hard evidence to say it could be possible a culture was more advanced than our most advanced country now. At least the Alien theory has the size, numbers, and semi hard evidence supporting life outside of our planet.

                        A meteorite from Mars that was studied here and said to have carried bacteria from Mars.

                        So we at least have some semi-hard (LOL) proof that life has been supported outside of just our planet.

                        Meteorite with bacteria
                        http://io9.com/5412871/new-evidence-...d-life-on-mars
                        Well the ancienst could have been advanced in ways we don't understand. To get rock to liquifiy is possible if you can make it hot enough. That would just be the ability of harnassing core elements.

                        Is it possible that the Eqyptians had some sort of mind over matter?

                        Both of these circumstances could have takem place without advanced tools.

                        I was reading about Hannibals army with his elephants and their attack on the Roman empire by going over the Alps. His Army was finally stuck, nearly out of food and came to a place where there was a 300 foot cliff. To go around it, he would have had to backtrack many days and probably would have doomed his army.

                        So his engineers create a concoction with the army's wine rations, light the cliff on fire, making the rocks brittle and basically carved out a zig zagging ramp that the elephants walked down in a short amount of time. I just don't think we give enough credit to what ancients could achieve. Core intelligence of humans hasn't changed in thousands of years, infact it may have diminished, we don't have a measure for that.
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                        • sb24
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3165

                          #282
                          Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                          I loved cracked.com's "6 things humanity just plain forgot." Crazy how we just forget these things.

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                          • Phobia
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                            • Jan 2008
                            • 11623

                            #283
                            Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                            Originally posted by fistofrage
                            Well the ancienst could have been advanced in ways we don't understand. To get rock to liquifiy is possible if you can make it hot enough. That would just be the ability of harnassing core elements.

                            Is it possible that the Eqyptians had some sort of mind over matter?

                            Both of these circumstances could have takem place without advanced tools.

                            I was reading about Hannibals army with his elephants and their attack on the Roman empire by going over the Alps. His Army was finally stuck, nearly out of food and came to a place where there was a 300 foot cliff. To go around it, he would have had to backtrack many days and probably would have doomed his army.

                            So his engineers create a concoction with the army's wine rations, light the cliff on fire, making the rocks brittle and basically carved out a zig zagging ramp that the elephants walked down in a short amount of time. I just don't think we give enough credit to what ancients could achieve. Core intelligence of humans hasn't changed in thousands of years, infact it may have diminished, we don't have a measure for that.
                            Doesn't that rule out evolution then?? Because we supposedly went from a primate as intelligent as a ******** kid. To the technology we have today or the ingenuity to create these super advanced structures or designs like you are describing.

                            So either that rules out evolution and humans were "created" and carried this intelligence OR we evolved from really really really stupid to extremely extremely smart in a very short period of time.

                            Neither is very rational. So that makes all this even more baffling.

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                            • Phobia
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                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11623

                              #284
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                              Originally posted by sb24
                              I loved cracked.com's "6 things humanity just plain forgot." Crazy how we just forget these things.
                              That is flat out hilarious SB.

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                              • fistofrage
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13682

                                #285
                                Re: Creepy Alien Stories

                                Originally posted by Phobia
                                Doesn't that rule out evolution then?? Because we supposedly went from a primate as intelligent as a ******** kid. To the technology we have today or the ingenuity to create these super advanced structures or designs like you are describing.

                                So either that rules out evolution and humans were "created" and carried this intelligence OR we evolved from really really really stupid to extremely extremely smart in a very short period of time.

                                Neither is very rational. So that makes all this even more baffling.
                                I don't think it rules out evolution per se. For example, I could have a genius for a child, and his child could be of average intelligence, and then the remainder of the line stays average. Now each generations should have more knowledge, not but not necessarily more intelligence. And catastrophes can make large amounts of knwledge go dormant or disappear. There is definite room for regression within evolution.

                                Not all evolution is for the better, should the earth somehow grow colder, there are certain species that would die out that used to have thicker coats and better prepared for the cold, but their own evoltion caused their demise.
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