Back To The Future 25th Anniversary Re-Release In Theaters

[TheMatrix31]

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Watched Part I on Blu-Ray....absolutely gorgeous!

There is one part though, that I honestly never understood when it comes to BTTF....

Marty: He laid out Biff in one punch! I never knew he had it in him! He never stood up to Biff in his life!
Doc looks at the photograph. Marty, Linda and Dave are all restored.
Doc: Never?
Marty: No, why, what's the matter?
Doc slips the photo back in Marty's pocket, shaking his head.



I dont understand why this exchange was made, what its in reference to......every line in a movie has purpose, and I can't seem to find the point in Doc asking "Never?" then shaking his head.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Watched Part I on Blu-Ray....absolutely gorgeous!

There is one part though, that I honestly never understood when it comes to BTTF....

Marty: He laid out Biff in one punch! I never knew he had it in him! He never stood up to Biff in his life!
Doc looks at the photograph. Marty, Linda and Dave are all restored.
Doc: Never?
Marty: No, why, what's the matter?
Doc slips the photo back in Marty's pocket, shaking his head.



I dont understand why this exchange was made, what its in reference to......every line in a movie has purpose, and I can't seem to find the point in Doc asking "Never?" then shaking his head.

Could that mean that the future changed and Doc realizes it?

Since George did stand up to Biff, in the orignal story he knocked Biff out, but it happened differently this time.

All I could think of.

[CMH]

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Doc knew at that very moment that things in 1985 would be different because George did something to Biff he had not previously done in the original 1955.

But, Doc glazes over it because they have a bolt of lightening to catch.

Just to expand on that: That's why Biff is cleaning George's car when Marty returns to 1985. Before Marty goes to 1955, Biff is George's boss and pushing him around to get Biff's work done. Then the connection is made in 1955 when Biff bullies a young George to do his homework.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Standing up to Biff gave George the confidence to stand up to him and to become a succesful author. Doc asks never because he realizes a significant change has taken place.

[TheMatrix31]

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Thanks for the responses. I knew the whole "improved conditions" thing when Marty returns to 1985 and Biff's waxing the car, just didn't figure out what Doc's "Never?" line had to do with it.

Intricacy of the writing in this trilogy is what makes it my favorite of all-time.

[youvalss]

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** Didn't want to start a new thread, so I used this one (hope mods don't get mad at me for the bump). **

Obviously, the whole BTTF thing doesn't make sense and impossible...BUT let's pretend that it all makes sense and works.

Every time I watch one of them, I like to think about what would happen in the movie if...or what should happen and they didn't talk about.

OK, this is a bit stupid, but let's see. Here's the thing: BTTF 2 - Remember that the old Biff (from 2015) stole the car, went back to 1955 and made himself rich? OK, so originally, he went back to 2015 and should be rich and all that.

BUT...when Doc and Marty find out, they go back to 1955 and try to revert it all. So they wait until old Biff goes back to 2015 (thinking he made it) and all that. After a few hours they get their hand on the sports score booklet and manage to prevent Biff to become rich.

BUT...old Biff just went back to his time several hours ago, being rich etc...what happens the moment Doc and Marty revert things? Is old Biff rich one moment and then suddenly everything changes? I mean, it's not like he's doing something then goes to his time and see the change. It's someone else making the change - a little bit after he goes back.

In other words, wouldn't old Biff see history (or present) changes in real time?

[CMH]

It's an interesting question that I sometimes wonder when I look at the world today.

We have our memories. You have yours. Right? But what if those memories are from someone changing your life through time travel. Maybe you went a different path originally, but instead your conscious of this life because that's the time line you're now in.

Basically, I don't think that Biff is conscious of the time change. Either you see it as a line that takes over or you imagine that Biff disappears from existence, or maybe it just creates a new time line that coexists with the others. Paradox, man. Time travel is too hard to figure out because of these things.


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[Burns11]

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Problem with BTTF is that it's not hard sci-fi, it's like bubbplegum pop sci-fi, it makes no real attempt to solidify a time travel model. A good for instance is the first film, Marty interferes with his parents meeting and the picture, and even himself, begin to fade, changes in time directly effect him. However, the changes to George and Biff's relationship, and the changes to George's life, have no effect on Marty, essentially making Marty exist outside of time while using the DeLorean.

So you can't pin down the way time works, because the movies don't present a usable model for time.

Speaking specifically about Biff, that's a paradox. The film led you to think that old Biff went back to 2015 not knowing if he was successful or not, and based on everything else shown in the movies with regard to Marty, he would have gone back to 2015 and have been oblivious to the changes. However middle aged Biff knows proper history, so at some point middle age Biff and old Biff have to bridge, with different memories.

Similarly, when Marty goes to the future and is in his future self's house, how does that future self not remember being in the house?

[JayBee74]

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If time travel was possible, wouldn't a super advanced technology in the year 8897 (just picking a future year) be able to come to this time and visit us? Or maybe they could and wouldn't want to.

[CMH]

If time travel was possible, wouldn't a super advanced technology in the year 8897 (just picking a future year) be able to come to this time and visit us? Or maybe they could and wouldn't want to.

Maybe they have. I guess we wouldn't know unless they told us and proved it.


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[daflyboys]

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l fully support time travel, but I'm putting it off until later.

[youvalss]

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Obviously BTTF isn't really hardcore science, so it doesn't need to be taken too seriously. But you can always find some issues with the theory/events presented in the movies (which is a fun thing to do while watching).


Here's something: In BTTF 1, Marty went back to Nov 5, 1955 and had to stay there for a week. So, his last day in 1955 was Nov 12. That was the day he managed to get his parents together and they kissed for the first time while the song Earth Angel was playing.

My wife and I got married on Nov 12, 2007. Most of the music we had playing was 50's-70's. One of the songs we were dancing slow to was...Earth Angel. It's hard to explain how special it felt...my wife really liked that moment.

[VDusen04]

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Just thought I'd share this interview with Thomas E. Wilson aka Biff. It's in regards to Eric Stoltz originally playing the role of Marty McFly (he was fired after six weeks of shooting). Apparently Stoltz was method acting it, insisting on being called Marty off-set, haha.

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[DJ]

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I didn't realize Stoltz was there for 6 weeks. That's a lot of shooting to throw away, but man, it's tough to not picture MJF in that role.

My wife and I are watching the trilogy now. I really like the first movie. The second I remember really enjoying as a kid but when we watched it last week, it didn't do anything for me. I'm hoping the third movie is better.

[Zer0xray]

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I didn't realize Stoltz was there for 6 weeks. That's a lot of shooting to throw away, but man, it's tough to not picture MJF in that role.

My wife and I are watching the trilogy now. I really like the first movie. The second I remember really enjoying as a kid but when we watched it last week, it didn't do anything for me. I'm hoping the third movie is better.

Personally I think the first is almost a perfect film. But my favorite is the 2nd. My mind was blown by the twist 2/3 into the movie as a kid and still remember that feeling. It was just so dark for me at the time

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