Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

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  • DJ
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2003
    • 17756

    #31
    Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

    Originally posted by ndeezlo
    As I have stated on my twitter, the website is very pretentious, it's a lot of I was there when.... it's about what I would expect from Simmons. Simmons appears to be a terrible person and I can't wait until that is proven more than the ESPN book does.
    As a former sports writer, I'm all for long form articles, but goodness, there needs to be a better filter on what is getting published on that site. The one column about the guy moving to Seattle and Ichiro was terrible, imo, and some of the other stuff on there hasn't been that good, either.

    I've noticed in the last year or two Simmons mentioning how he attends NBA Finals games and there's a pic of him at the Stanley Cup Finals; I'm not saying he shouldn't go to those games because he's free to spend his money how he wants, but the way he writes his columns, it does come off as bragging to an extent and I don't like it.

    What made Simmons popular back in the day was that pretty much every guy that was a sports fan could relate to him; he was sitting there on the sofa, just like us, and writing columns about what we all saw. Now, he's turned his nose up at baseball (for ridiculous reasons; um, baseball has always been about stats, Simmons) and only seems to write "retro-diaries" (which is a really cheap way of doing things AFTER the game has already happened) on basketball games and chimes in with a few football columns. His popular mailbags also appear very infrequently.

    Guys are allowed to change things up, but I think Simmons is starting to alienate his core audience. He appears more focused on his celebrity than being the "Sports Guy" that we all loved.

    It's funny because writers constantly rip on professional athletes for their big egos, when in fact, the writers have just as big, if not bigger, egos than the athletes. You see this all the time and the post a while back where someone's friend tried to introduce himself to Simmons is a prime example; if a writer in a big spot feels that you are beneath him, he will treat you like a piece of crap, without having even exchanged a hello with you. It's a shame because there are some really nice guys in the industry, but I've seen peoples' egos spiral way out of control in the sports journalism world, and I think Simmons now falls into that category of guys who have let the celebrity get to their heads.

    It shouldn't matter if Joe Blow is writing for a small hometown newspaper; if he's a fan of Simmons' work and wants to say hi, the least Simmons can do is be cordial to the guy. No one says you have to be friends with everyone you meet, but that doesn't give you the right to just blow off people, either, if you don't think they are on "your level".
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    • rspencer86
      MIB Crew
      • Sep 2004
      • 8806

      #32
      Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

      I don't really even touch Simmons' articles anymore. Never been a huge fan.

      But there's enough other solid stuff on the site to keep me coming back. Just read a great piece on Roger Federer and Klosterman's latest on "Rock VORP."
      Ryan Spencer

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      • Jonesy
        All Star
        • Feb 2003
        • 5382

        #33
        Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

        Interesting stuff fella's. I only listen to his nba related podcasts these days and haven't read his articles in a while.

        I still enjoy the podcasts but it's interesting to hear about this arrogance because you do kinda hear it creeping in with his podcasts as well.

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        • VanCitySportsGuy
          NYG_Meth
          • Feb 2003
          • 9351

          #34
          Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

          I've finally caught up with all the content on the site (some articles I just skimmed through). Simmons has produced more content in the past 10 days than he has in the previous month.

          As for the people ripping Simmons for being a celeb, the average joe gimmick stopped the moment he moved to LA to work on the Kimmel show. I don't recall him saying he represented the average fan once he moved out West.

          I'm really enjoying the site so far. It's targeting a more sophisticated, college educated, and long form reader type of audience. There isn't another sports/pop culture website like this.

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          • BlueNGold
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 21817

            #35
            Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

            I thought this was a great read:

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            • MattUM2
              Rookie
              • Jul 2011
              • 264

              #36
              Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

              So after a month in I have to say that the site have become a huge disappointment. The articles seem forced, and all the pop culture references are unreadable at times. Most of the articles are substandard.

              I hope things change in the future.

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              • Taur3asi3
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3727

                #37
                Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                Originally posted by MattUM2
                So after a month in I have to say that the site have become a huge disappointment. The articles seem forced, and all the pop culture references are unreadable at times. Most of the articles are substandard.
                You just described almost every article written by Simmons in the last half decade.
                As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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                • rspencer86
                  MIB Crew
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 8806

                  #38
                  Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                  Apparently the site has been a big success financially so far. They are way ahead of projections for ad revenue up to this point.
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                  • VanCitySportsGuy
                    NYG_Meth
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 9351

                    #39
                    Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                    I feel like the quality of the articles has gone downhill since the first 2 weeks. To be fair, it's a real slow period for sports though.

                    I wonder if the editors have changed their mind about letting people post comments after the articles. I think the site is a little elitish to have Deadspin and TBL type comments.

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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #40
                      Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                      Well, if Simmons would drop his petty grudge over baseball, that would help. That, and finding better baseball writers. The ones on the site so far haven't been good. Molly Lambert's work feels so forced it's not even funny.
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                      • DrJones
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 9108

                        #41
                        Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                        Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
                        I wonder if the editors have changed their mind about letting people post comments after the articles. I think the site is a little elitish to have Deadspin and TBL type comments.
                        I dunno what's to be gained from letting people post comments on articles, to tell the truth. Competently modded chats and forums are fine, but 99% of the comments I read on mainstream news, sports, and entertainment sites are a horror show of hatred, ignorance, trolling, and/or stupidity.
                        Originally posted by Thrash13
                        Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
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                        DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
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                        yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                        • BlueNGold
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 21817

                          #42
                          Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                          Originally posted by DrJones
                          I dunno what's to be gained from letting people post comments on articles, to tell the truth. Competently modded chats and forums are fine, but 99% of the comments I read on mainstream news, sports, and entertainment sites are a horror show of hatred, ignorance, trolling, and/or stupidity.
                          Pretty much.

                          Although I will say the people who comment on Deadspin are hilarious.
                          Originally posted by bradtxmale
                          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                          • DrJones
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 9108

                            #43
                            Re: Can Bill Simmons Win The Big One? (Grantland.com)

                            Originally posted by BlueNGold
                            Pretty much.

                            Although I will say the people who comment on Deadspin are hilarious.
                            This is true. Deadspin does a good job of weeding out the ESPN mouthbreathers.
                            Originally posted by Thrash13
                            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                            Originally posted by slickdtc
                            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                            Originally posted by Kipnis22
                            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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