The Walking Dead (Season 2)

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Herschel said Otis did all the dirty work, so I don't think Herschel knew who was in the barn and who wasn't.



I've been scratching my head about that as well. Rick's group has all the power and could have easily taken the farm if they wanted. I think if push came to shove, they would have. Rick was trying to play it right though, because that's just how Rick is.


I really enjoyed the last 10-15 minutes last night. Shane just went off and I loved it. I also like how the other members of the group were like F it, we are rolling with Shane,, F being nice.

And with Rick calling Sophia, was he the only one to have balls to do it, was everyone just shocked, did Rick kill her because he felt it was his fault?

I'm guessing there is going to be a break in the group now, some people rolling with Shane and some with Rick?

Rick had to shoot Sophia because he needed to regain his role as the leader of the group. He was losing respect, people were openly questioning his decisions, and Shane's almost entirely psychotic (his conversation with Lori was crazy). Rick had to do it to restore some kind of balance and order within the group while keeping up faith in "humanity."

[shugknight]

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Rick had to shoot Sophia because he needed to regain his role as the leader of the group. He was losing respect, people were openly questioning his decisions, and Shane's almost entirely psychotic (his conversation with Lori was crazy). Rick had to do it to restore some kind of balance and order within the group while keeping up faith in "humanity."

Was it that? I really thought he made the shot because he felt that it was his responsibility that she got lost.. so in turn it was his responsibility to put her down since nobody wanted to shoot a little girl.

[Skyboxer]

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Yes the show keeps delivering. Love the pacing also. With all the cookie cutter shows and "reality" crap out there I don't understand why anyone would want this show to go into hyper speed. Yes I'm sure where the story is at now could have been reached 3 episodes ago but so what? I want to take everything in and enjoy every second.
Can't wait for the show to fire back up.

[Leon]

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Screw the in-depth analysis.

All I could think about at the end was....

SO. DAMN. GOOD.

Damn you, midseason break!

[untrugby]

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Yes the show keeps deliverying. Love the pacing also. With all the cookie cutter shows and "reality" crap out there I don't understand why anyone would want this show to go into hyper speed. Yes I'm sure where the story is at now could have been reached 3 episodes ago but so what? I want to take everything in and enjoy every second.
Can't wait for the show to fire back up.

Because those extra episodes didn't add much to the characters, because everyone can see the end game doesn't involve the farm. It seems like they are wasting time just to waste it. Think about if Sophia was actually a surprise instead of a forgone conclusion.

[CaptainZombie]

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And with Rick calling Sophia, was he the only one to have balls to do it, was everyone just shocked, did Rick kill her because he felt it was his fault?

I'm guessing there is going to be a break in the group now, some people rolling with Shane and some with Rick?

I think that Rick was the one to take out Sophia for 1) everyone was in utter shock and 2) he needed to gain some respect back. I think he really let most of the group down when they saw him with a captured walker and thought WTF is our leader doing. This whole time we've been shooting them on site, now were capturing them to appease Herschel. Rick's motives are that he always thinks about all consequences before his actions and is probably trying to make peace with Herschel due to his pregnant wife wanting to keep her at a secure place with a doctor when it comes time for delivery.

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I like watching previews, but previews have become so deceiving over the years that I don't take any stock in them anymore. Granted we see Rick and Shane having a shootout, but who knows if these weren't spliced together to look that way. I've seen enough of those style trailers and instead their shooting at someone else.

I don't think they take off for the Prison till the second to last episode. They will need to build some kind of hook for Season 3. I bet this is where we will see Merele and The Governor (unless Merele is The Governor here).

I was talking with Chef last night on AIM about why Rick and the group don't take over the farm from Herschel. In some ways I can see Rick thinking that this is another man's home and property and we can't kick him out of it. I can see Herschel being a man that will fight even if its him vs. 100 to keep his home. I'd really hate to take another man's home in a crisis/apocalypse like this, but the more I think of it today, I probably would do what any human being would do and try to take over the place for the good of their family. It comes down to survival. Last night I was debating how its wrong to do that, but the more I think of it, you have to do something.

It was upsetting to see what happened to Sophia last night even though I knew it was her. The thought that they spent how many days searching for her, for only to have her be right under their noses. Worst of all is that it's a kid, regardless if its in human or zombie form.

[Skyboxer]

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Because those extra episodes didn't add much to the characters, because everyone can see the end game doesn't involve the farm. It seems like they are wasting time just to waste it. Think about if Sophia was actually a surprise instead of a forgone conclusion.

To me it adds to the emersion and almost makes you feel like "you're living it" with them.

I'd rather have this than a 6 show mini series.

[untrugby]

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To me it adds to the emersion and almost makes you feel like "you're living it" with them.

I'd rather have this than a 6 show mini series.

The problem about that is without movement, without zombie threat, without a purpose thier everyday lives are just the usual boring drama.

[Money99]

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Only took 7 episodes to get to where we should have been at the end of episode 3 lets hope they get things moving forward now.

The problem about that is without movement, without zombie threat, without a purpose thier everyday lives are just the usual boring drama.

Couldn't agree more.

I actually fell asleep 10 minutes into last nights episode, but woke up for the final scene.
I asked my wife if I missed anything and she said 'Not at all'.

I woke up early this morning and finished the middle portion and she wasn't kidding. I hadn't missed a thing.

I really hope the 2nd-half of this season picks up the pace. I want them out of that farm, and back on the road.

For a show that's trying to lean towards human drama, they're doing a horrible job of it.
If you're not going to show more zombie kills, at least make the characters and drama surrounding them entertaining.
If I was forced to grade the first 7 episodes of Season 2, I'd give it a D.
The writers could have easily shrunk all of this season into 2 or 3 shows. Certainly not 7.

[areobee401]

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Glad to see Shane finally go off and do what needed to be done. I agree the passing of the first 7 episodes was way too slow.

[jeremym480]

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I thought the entire episode was intense from the group finding out about the barn, Shane & Lori/Dale drama and of course the payoff at the end. I was on the edge of my seat the entire 60 minutes.

[LionsFanNJ]

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the show is following the style/pacing of the comic exactly. I like it.

[Skyboxer]

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The problem about that is without movement, without zombie threat, without a purpose thier everyday lives are just the usual boring drama.

I found every bit if it interesting and far from boring. The story as a whole has been far more than just about a zombie threat. If it was just that I doubt I'd still be into it.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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the show is following the style/pacing of the comic exactly. I like it.

I feel like the comic (second volume at least) brought in more elements and kept things moving a bit more swiftly.

[LionsFanNJ]

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I feel like the comic (second volume at least) brought in more elements and kept things moving a bit more swiftly.

there is a lot of "downtime" as they've had in the show (especially the

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prison

time. That ran a good 30 issues or so). But the comic has the ability to focus on character development in a less constrained timeframe so it gets away with it.