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  • Fresh Tendrils
    Strike Hard and Fade Away
    • Jul 2002
    • 36131

    #91
    Re: The Audiophile Thread

    My center speaker is about an inch or two above the screen, but I don't notice it really.



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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42555

      #92
      Re: The Audiophile Thread

      Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
      My center speaker is about an inch or two above the screen, but I don't notice it really.
      So is mine, but from my seating position it's not a problem, especially with letterbox content. It also helps that the CS10 cuts down in the back.

      If I went Klipsch for the center again though, for instance, not only is it boxed all the way around, but it's definitely one or two inches bigger, and would be incredibly problematic for the bottom cut-off, even at my seating position. I'd rather wait it out. Besides, I'm sure I'm not maximizing my center's capabilities with the RX-V667 anyway.
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      • adice15
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 2161

        #93
        Re: The Audiophile Thread

        I'm a newbie at surround sound stuff, so forgive me.

        I'm looking to purchase this, and I have some questions about it. I'm assuming I'd need a receiver, correct? And if so, how exactly does that stuff work?
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        • GAMEC0CK2002
          Stayin Alive
          • Aug 2002
          • 10384

          #94
          Re: The Audiophile Thread

          Originally posted by adice15
          I'm a newbie at surround sound stuff, so forgive me.

          I'm looking to purchase this, and I have some questions about it. I'm assuming I'd need a receiver, correct? And if so, how exactly does that stuff work?
          You'll definitely need a receiver. Looks like you'll need speaker wires unless you already have some.
          You connect each speaker to it's correct terminal on the AVR. The ideal setup is to have all of your devices feed into the AVR then have 1 HDMI cable connect the AVR to your TV.

          How much you looking to spend on a receiver?

          5.1 receivers start around $150 but most are in the $200-350 range. Obviously you can spend a whole lot more than that...
          Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 12-06-2012, 11:41 PM.

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          • RockinDaMike
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            • Feb 2003
            • 9092

            #95
            Re: The Audiophile Thread

            Amazon usually has some great specials. I got the same receiver as blzr for free with the purchase of harmon kardon 5.1 speakers for 700 total in 2010.
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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42555

              #96
              Re: The Audiophile Thread

              Originally posted by RockinDaMike
              Amazon usually has some great specials. I got the same receiver as blzr for free with the purchase of harmon kardon 5.1 speakers for 700 total in 2010.
              I did the same deal.

              In fact, adice, I don't use my HK speakers/subwoofer anymore since upgrading everything. You want to take that stuff off my hands? Maybe a shipping fee might be all that I need.
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              • adice15
                MVP
                • Jul 2009
                • 2161

                #97
                Re: The Audiophile Thread

                Originally posted by Blzer
                I did the same deal.

                In fact, adice, I don't use my HK speakers/subwoofer anymore since upgrading everything. You want to take that stuff off my hands? Maybe a shipping fee might be all that I need.
                Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely consider it, but first I'm looking at the Panasonic SC-BTT195 since it comes with everything in the box. Anyone know if it's any good?

                Also, how hard would it be to use the PS3 as the blu-ray player instead of the one it comes with?

                EDIT: After looking at it more, it says it only has one HDMI Output and one optical imput. Would that mean I couldn't use HDMI for the blu ray player?
                Last edited by adice15; 12-07-2012, 04:46 PM.
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                • adice15
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2161

                  #98
                  Re: The Audiophile Thread

                  Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                  You'll definitely need a receiver. Looks like you'll need speaker wires unless you already have some.
                  You connect each speaker to it's correct terminal on the AVR. The ideal setup is to have all of your devices feed into the AVR then have 1 HDMI cable connect the AVR to your TV.

                  How much you looking to spend on a receiver?

                  5.1 receivers start around $150 but most are in the $200-350 range. Obviously you can spend a whole lot more than that...
                  I'm looking to spend about $200-300 total. I know I can't get anything great with that, but I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.
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                  • GAMEC0CK2002
                    Stayin Alive
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 10384

                    #99
                    Re: The Audiophile Thread

                    Originally posted by adice15
                    Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely consider it, but first I'm looking at the Panasonic SC-BTT195 since it comes with everything in the box. Anyone know if it's any good?

                    Also, how hard would it be to use the PS3 as the blu-ray player instead of the one it comes with?

                    EDIT: After looking at it more, it says it only has one HDMI Output and one optical imput. Would that mean I couldn't use HDMI for the blu ray player?
                    To be honest, that looks like a waste of money if the PS3 is going to be your blu ray player.

                    You'd be better off looking for a HTIB that has a real receiver. (PS3 would be an input device)

                    For $400 you can get a decent 5.1 AVR, a 5.0 set of speakers and 10-12" powered subwoofer --which will sound better than 99% of those HTIBs.

                    For Example:

                    This 7.1 Sony Receiver for $190 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH520-...s=5.1+receiver

                    This Onkyo 7.1 speaker package for $200 http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-SKS-HT54...speaker+system

                    And about $15-20 for speaker wire.



                    If $300 is your max budget get a HTIB that has a dedicated AVR not a blu player acting as a receiver.

                    If this is going to be your main setup, I would seriously consider piecing it together.

                    Good luck.
                    Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 12-07-2012, 05:16 PM.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42555

                      #100
                      Re: The Audiophile Thread

                      Originally posted by adice15
                      Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely consider it, but first I'm looking at the Panasonic SC-BTT195 since it comes with everything in the box. Anyone know if it's any good?

                      Also, how hard would it be to use the PS3 as the blu-ray player instead of the one it comes with?

                      EDIT: After looking at it more, it says it only has one HDMI Output and one optical imput. Would that mean I couldn't use HDMI for the blu ray player?
                      The PS3 will be a better Blu-ray player than any HTiB combo player/receiver. It's one of the best ones out there, actually.

                      Did you say that the receiver only has one HDMI output, or the Blu-ray player? Either way, one is all that you need. The direction goes as follows:

                      Blu-ray player -> Receiver -> Darblet -> HDTV

                      So you will go HDMI out on your PS3 and HDMI in on your receiver, then HDMI out to wherever else, etc. If you use HDMI, optical won't be necessary.
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                      • adice15
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2161

                        #101
                        Re: The Audiophile Thread

                        Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                        To be honest, that looks like a waste of money if the PS3 is going to be your blu ray player.

                        You'd be better off looking for a HTIB that has a real receiver. (PS3 would be an input device)

                        For $400 you can get a decent 5.1 AVR, a 5.0 set of speakers and 10-12" powered subwoofer --which will sound better than 99% of those HTIBs.

                        For Example:

                        This 7.1 Sony Receiver for $190 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH520-...s=5.1+receiver

                        This Onkyo 7.1 speaker package for $200 http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-SKS-HT54...speaker+system

                        And about $15-20 for speaker wire.



                        If $300 is your max budget get a HTIB that has a dedicated AVR not a blu player acting as a receiver.

                        If this is going to be your main setup, I would seriously consider piecing it together.

                        Good luck.
                        This would be my main setup, so I'll take a look at piecing it together. I did a little bit of research on it and I saw that anything decent would be about $400-500, so that's when I decided to look for HITB. But if a 3D capable 7.1 would be about $400, would that mean that a 5.1 2D version would be about $300? The room this is going in is too small for 7.1 and I don't have any plans to get a 3DTV.

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        The PS3 will be a better Blu-ray player than any HTiB combo player/receiver. It's one of the best ones out there, actually.

                        Did you say that the receiver only has one HDMI output, or the Blu-ray player? Either way, one is all that you need. The direction goes as follows:

                        Blu-ray player -> Receiver -> Darblet -> HDTV

                        So you will go HDMI out on your PS3 and HDMI in on your receiver, then HDMI out to wherever else, etc. If you use HDMI, optical won't be necessary.
                        Thanks for clearing that up. I think the blu-ray player also functions as the receiver, so that's why I was getting confused.


                        Also, could either of you recommend the best brands to get?

                        EDIT: If getting a HITB with the Blu-Ray player also being the receiver is the cheapest option, I would be ok with that as long as the blu-ray player was updated regularly.
                        Last edited by adice15; 12-07-2012, 07:56 PM.
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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42555

                          #102
                          Re: The Audiophile Thread

                          AVS has a dedicated sub-forum for that. You could just look in there and see what < $500 options there are. I would say that Onkyo is one of your best bets for an HTiB at that price point, simply because they are pretty decent with receivers, speakers, and subs.
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                          • GAMEC0CK2002
                            Stayin Alive
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 10384

                            #103
                            Re: The Audiophile Thread

                            Originally posted by adice15
                            This would be my main setup, so I'll take a look at piecing it together. I did a little bit of research on it and I saw that anything decent would be about $400-500, so that's when I decided to look for HITB. But if a 3D capable 7.1 would be about $400, would that mean that a 5.1 2D version would be about $300? The room this is going in is too small for 7.1 and I don't have any plans to get a 3DTV.



                            Thanks for clearing that up. I think the blu-ray player also functions as the receiver, so that's why I was getting confused.


                            Also, could either of you recommend the best brands to get?

                            EDIT: If getting a HITB with the Blu-Ray player also being the receiver is the cheapest option, I would be ok with that as long as the blu-ray player was updated regularly.
                            If you can stretch your budget to $350: http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YHT-397...words=5.1+HTIB

                            Key Features:
                            Auto room calibration/set-up It will take your room dimensions into account and set up each speaker
                            A real subwoofer (active is ALWAYS better than passive) Night and Day difference


                            To go any cheaper you lose both of them, which I wouldn't recommend---especially the active sub.


                            I love active subs.

                            To answer your question directly:

                            Yamaha and Onkyo are going to be your best options in this price range.

                            The reason why I wouldn't recommend any HTIB that has a blu ray player acting as the receiver is this--limited connections (inputs), passive subwoofer and nearly impossible to upgrade.
                            Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 12-08-2012, 01:57 AM.

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                            • adice15
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2161

                              #104
                              Re: The Audiophile Thread

                              Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                              If you can stretch your budget to $350: http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YHT-397...words=5.1+HTIB

                              Key Features:
                              Auto room calibration/set-up It will take your room dimensions into account and set up each speaker
                              A real subwoofer (active is ALWAYS better than passive) Night and Day difference


                              To go any cheaper you lose both of them, which I wouldn't recommend---especially the active sub.


                              I love active subs.

                              To answer your question directly:

                              Yamaha and Onkyo are going to be your best options in this price range.

                              The reason why I wouldn't recommend any HTIB that has a blu ray player acting as the receiver is this--limited connections (inputs), passive subwoofer and nearly impossible to upgrade.
                              I was considering that one and this one: http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500...Speaker+System

                              Another question: Would both of those be upgradable? Say if I wanted a bigger subwoofer, would I be able to replace the one that comes with it?
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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42555

                                #105
                                Re: The Audiophile Thread

                                Originally posted by adice15
                                I was considering that one and this one: http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500...Speaker+System

                                Another question: Would both of those be upgradable? Say if I wanted a bigger subwoofer, would I be able to replace the one that comes with it?
                                It will be compatible, but if you have speakers that are asking for more power than the receiver can handle, then it can strain your receiver, and in effect actually damages the speakers.

                                Hard to explain because I don't speak the technical jargon, but if you look it up using the right terms, you might get what I'm saying.

                                I would suggest that you either stick with a complementary HTiB or get a receiver separately and build piece-by-piece, but not a combination of the two.
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