Whitney Houston Dead at 48

[JayBee74]

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If we have to go through another "doctor" trial, I'm going to be pissed.

I doubt it. There is a quick tolerance to a daily use of Xanax, so doctors can start you at .25 milligrams 1-3 times per day, and easily get you up to 4-6 milligrams a day, which is 8-24 times more then the patient's initial dosage. Some patients might get prescribed even more, so that could be called into question. The bottom line is Whitney's probable use of alcohol in combination with the Xanax is what seems to have killed her.

A guy at work who likes to talk about his prescription drug use gets prescribed 4 milligrams of Xanax a day, routinely washes it down with 4 beers, and takes anywhere from 2-4 7.5 milligram Vicodin tablets. They aren't prescribed-he pays $7 per Vike pill. He talks a lot.

My brother's friend's mother is a big time lush. She takes Xanax (don't know how much) in combination with a lot of alcohol.

Hopefully this will wake them and other people up.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I doubt it, JayBee. It seems like the abuse of pills have exploded over the past 5 years or so and I don't see that stopping anytime soon, unfortunately.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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^^

How reliable is TMZ?

I see source here, source, there, it's not official at this stage, is it?

The official autopsy reports comes out in 6-8 weeks.

I wouldn't be surprised she went the same way as Heath Ledger, accidental suicide with prescription medication.

Accidental suicide? Nothing accidental about a mixture of booze and pills. She's had a death wish for a long time. As with Ledger, this "dealing with demons" stuff is a just a convenient excuse to portray yourself as a victim.

When you have children who are dependent on you as they both did, it's time to grow up, stop being selfish, and take responsibility for yourself and stop acting like the world owes you something because you are not 100% happy with it even though you're financially set and have the best treatment facilities at your disposal. If you truly want to get better with that kind of support you will but she obviously didn't and that doesn't make it tragic, more like pathetic.

It's just funny we look with disdain at that crackhead on the street because we think they refuse to take responsibility for thier life but since Whitney could sing then that is a tragedy even though she was afforded every advantage to get better than the aforementioned crackhead.

Unfortunately this sense of entitlement permeates throughout society and is the main reason why the explosion of pill dependency. My parents, when they immigrated way back, were ecstatic just to get a crappy job so they could pay the bills and had weekly stress as to whether they would still be employed the next day. The more people have, the more they want and the more "depressed" and "haunted by demons" when they don't get it.

[roadman]

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Accidental suicide? Nothing accidental about a mixture of booze and pills. She's had a death wish for a long time. As with Ledger, this "dealing with demons" stuff is a just a convenient excuse to portray yourself as a victim.

When you have children who are dependent on you as they both did, it's time to grow up, stop being selfish, and take responsibility for yourself and stop acting like the world owes you something because you are not 100% happy with it even though you're financially set and have the best treatment facilities at your disposal. If you truly want to get better with that kind of support you will but she obviously didn't and that doesn't make it tragic, more like pathetic.

It's just funny we look with disdain at that crackhead on the street who refuses to take responsibility for thier life but since Whitney could sing then that is a tragedy even though she was afforded every advantage to get better than the aforementioned crackhead.

Unfortunately this sense of entitlement permeates throughout society and is the main reason why the explosion of pill dependency. My parents, when they immigrated way back, were ecstatic just to get a crappy job so they could pay the bills and had weekly stress as to whether they would still be employed the next day.

I don't disagree, but all I will say to the above, it's probably easier said than done.

The death certificate will say accidental suicide, it's a personal choice whether you choose to believe that.

I don't think there is any crime that people can choose to remember people any way they wish once a person dies, celebrity, friend or relative.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I don't disagree, but all I will say to the above, it's probably easier said than done.

The death certificate will say accidental suicide, it's a personal opinion whether you choose to believe that.

I don't think there is any crime that people can choose to remember people any way they wish once a person dies, celebrity, friend or relative.

Instead of the media celebrating her life, they should really focus on her reason for her death to dissuade others. They are doing that to a point now but you know that will fade over the next few weeks and she will be portrayed as another "victim" just like Michael Jackson was because of circumstances beyond thier control. Society loves playing the blame game.

And her daughter had to be sent to the hospital twice so obviously Whitney meant the world to her as an 18 year old. What kind of cruel person could care less about thier child and just think about her own needs.

[roadman]

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Instead of the media celebrating her life, they should really focus on her reason for her death to dissuade others. They are doing that to a point now but you know that will fade over the next few weeks and she will be portrayed as another "victim" just like Michael Jackson was because of circumstances beyond thier control. Society loves playing the blame game.

And her daughter had to be sent to the hospital twice so obviously Whitney meant the world to her as an 18 year old. What kind of cruel person could care less about thier child and just think about her own needs.

I agree that is what the media should focus on, but I also feel doctors should know what medications and how much their patients are taking. That should also be a focus of the media. After the funeral, I think it will all blow away until the next young death.

Without knowing Whitney, I don't think she intended to die and leave her daughter all alone. I don't think she thought just one day she would quit breathing and her heart would give out on her. Same with MJ and Heath Ledger, I doubt they wanted to die and leave behind young ones.

I'm not an expert on anti-depressants or addictions, so, all I can do is speculate.

[edaddy]

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^^

How reliable is TMZ?

I see source here, source, there, it's not official at this stage, is it?

The official autopsy reports comes out in 6-8 weeks.

I wouldn't be surprised she went the same way as Heath Ledger, accidental suicide with prescription medication.

No such thing as an accidental suicide ,suicides are intentional. Heath ledger died of an accidental overdose. In my line of work I deal with this on a daily basis and I can probably assume that she died of a bad and lethal mix or combination of prescription drugs combined with alcohol. Since she was alledgedly off cocaine she probably had to fill an addiction void with prescription drugs and was becoming more and more tolerant therefore upping the ante. I am saddened by this news as I grew up listening to Houston. Her addiction problems started before Bobby brown came into the picture but I suspect he led her to the more potent drugs. RIP..

[roadman]

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No such thing as an accidental suicide ,suicides are intentional. Heath ledger died of an accidental overdose. In my line of work I deal with this on a daily basis and I can probably assume that she died of a bad and lethal mix or combination of prescription drugs combined with alcohol. Since she was alledgedly off cocaine she probably had to fill an addiction void with prescription drugs and was becoming more and more tolerant therefore upping the ante. I am saddened by this news as I grew up listening to Houston. Her addiction problems started before Bobby brown came into the picture but I suspect he led her to the more potent drugs. RIP..

Accidental suicide might have been wrong choice of phraseology, maybe accidental OD.

Not saying I'm an expert.

Actually, if I think about it, the DC might state accidental OD with alcohol and several doses of Xanex?

[edaddy]

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Accidental suicide might have been wrong choice of phraseology, maybe accidental OD.

Not saying I'm an expert.

Is accidental suicide put on the death certificate or accident OD?

LOL no problem man..it's listed as an accidental Overdose caused by whatever was ingested..

[roadman]

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LOL no problem man..it's listed as an accidental Overdose caused by whatever was ingested..

Thanks, I edited my post before I saw your answer.

Your right, no suicide is accidental.

[Jasong7777]

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The issue is that these drugs should not be on the market in the first place. Can't go any further without going against the TOS.

[edaddy]

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The issue is that these drugs should not be on the market in the first place. Can't go any further without going against the TOS.

I agree certain drugs should be off the market but I have seen prescription drugs work wonders for people who actually need them and take them in the recommended dose. Like any other drug it's the people who use them as a as a means to get high and abuse them are the ones giving the perception that these drugs are bad. We need to have more stringent laws and barriers pertaining to the acquisiton of these drugs by individuals who don't need them but simply walk into a dx office fake depression or pain and get these drugs rather easily. And of course people like Houston will have no problem getting prescriptions for these drugs from various doctors because they have the money to do so.

It's sad but believe it or not I have seen alcohol do far worse damage.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I agree certain drugs should be off the market but I have seen prescription drugs work wonders for people who actually need them and take them in the recommended dose. Like any other drug it's the people who use them as a as a means to get high and abuse them are the ones giving the perception that these drugs are bad. We need to have more stringent laws and barriers pertaining to the acquisiton of these drugs by individuals who don't need them but simply walk into a dx office fake depression or pain and get these drugs rather easily. And of course people like Houston will have no problem getting prescriptions for these drugs from various doctors because they have the money to do so.

It's sad but believe it or not I have seen alcohol do far worse damage.

Alcohol is just a liquid prescription. Anything that impairs your thinking and is addiciting is a drug. Like the late, great Frank Zappa once said "alcohol and drugs are just an excuse for people to act like *******s". Truer words have never been spoken.

[edaddy]

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Alcohol is just a liquid prescription. Anything that impairs your thinking and is addiciting is a drug. Like the late, great Frank Zappa once said "alcohol and drugs are just an excuse for people to act like *******s". Truer words have never been spoken.

Exactly to an extent but in reality it's alot easier to get alcohol and it has no actual use other than to alter your state. prescription drugs at least have a purpose and all don't impair your thinking..but you are right both can become addictive..The people who misuse and abuse both are ticking timebombs. LOL don't neccessarily agree with the late great Frank Zappa.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Exactly to an extent but in reality it's alot easier to get alcohol and it has no actual use other than to alter your state. prescription drugs at least have a purpose and all don't impair your thinking..but you are right both can become addictive..The people who misuse and abuse both are ticking timebombs. LOL don't neccessarily agree with the late great Frank Zappa.

I don't know about you but I've never met a person who was drunk or high that didn't act like an idiot, myself included. It's just most of the time you're just as impaired so you don't notice it. You never had people come over to your house when you're just relaxing (and not impaired or don't plan on getting impaired) and they are drunk or stoned and after about 5 minutes you just want them to GTFO because they're acting like *******s.