ESPN 30 for 30 Discussion Thread

[mb625]

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I saw the first hour and 15 minutes and then went to go play some basketball, but I honestly believe that teams should at least provide a financial literacy class if not having a team wide financial counselor who has to answer to the ownership (to hopefully combat the ponzi schemes discussed in the films.)... but TBH, I'm not sure that there is anything to combat people taking advantage of the wealth of these athletes besides athletes just saying no sometimes (which can often be a difficult thing to do.)

[TheMatrix31]

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These guys are SO ****ing stupid.

Had to stop watching after an hour. Pissed me off too much.

[War Eagle!]

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These guys are SO ****ing stupid.

Had to stop watching after an hour. Pissed me off too much.

You shouldn't let things you can't control piss you off. Someone had to make these mistakes so that others can learn from them. I guarantee you this documentary probably reached more athletes and aspiring athletes than any finance teacher will in college.

I don't blame these athletes and I don't blame the universities. The blame comes from elementary through high school. Instead of teaching stories about the Civil War and Calculus and Chemistry, classes that a lot of kids just try to get through, why not teach us how to manage money? Why should we have to wait until we are in college to really learn the in's and out's of finance?

I went to college and had I not been a business major, I still wouldn't know jack diddly squat about it. The priority among a lot of my peers is get the money, but keeping the money is an after thought because we haven't been taught to plan, save and invest our money. Rather, we have been spoiled with this idea of entitlement because of what our ancestors went through to make a better life for us and we figure "Oh, I finished college nobody did that in my family, i'll always have a high paying job." It wasn't until after I graduated that real life smacked me in the face and I realized that I can only count on what I earn, but i'm just one person.

We can make excuses all day, but it's not going to get better until people are educated and it can't start when you start getting money because if you go from 200 dollars every two weeks and land a 60k job out of college and you have never had money and come out making more than your mom has made the last 25-30 years, let's be honest, you're going to splurge.


Disclaimer: I do not speak for everyone with this post.

[BlueNGold]

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You shouldn't let things you can't control piss you off.

You're talking to the wrong person.

[OSUFan_88]

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These guys are SO ****ing stupid.

Had to stop watching after an hour. Pissed me off too much.

Exactly what did Bernie do that was so stupid?

[areobee401]

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I thought the documentary was decent. The director could have have dug deeper into the subject. Nothing that we already didn't know was explored.

[cjonesfan921]

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I missed it, scheduled a DVR for the next showing on Saturday!

[areobee401]

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If you are someone who lives paycheck to paycheck but have the latest video game, cellphone and clothes you are no different than these guy other than they buy houses, cars and party.

Great point.

[War Eagle!]

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You're talking to the wrong person.

I'm assuming you're talking about me, when have I gotten pissed off and how would you know?

[Chrisksaint]

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I think that's what some of these guys probably needed to learn that they are living paycheck but with just more $$ involved, as I think when people in general realize that they tend to be smarter with their money.

[cjonesfan921]

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I'm assuming you're talking about me, when have I gotten pissed off and how would you know?

No! He means Matrix...

[War Eagle!]

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I think that's what some of these guys probably needed to learn that they are living paycheck but with just more $$ involved, as I think when people in general realize that they tend to be smarter with their money.

Exactly but it comes back to education. If you're taking general studies and PE classes and being passed along most of your adolescent years and you get to college and it's much of the same, how do they know? We can't pretend that a good majority of these guys aren't dumb as bricks.

I don't fault them many of them because the way they weren't educated and just passed along because of their athletic ability, why wouldn't you think sports is your only way out? Especially when you look at athletes like who have learning disabilities or other disabilities that went ignored all those years and it's more than a couple out there. How would they know?

Saving and spending wisely isn't just a given. It takes education and like I said earlier, if you have never had anything and you get a million dollars your first paycheck ever and football is your only way and you're a top draft pick, I can imagine myself how I might feel invincible because like I said I got a decent job out of college and still acted like an idiot the first couple of months and then I woke up, but it was easier for me to wake because I had studied and been tested over things and I was able to get a handle on it, and I was able to do that on my own.

Like the documentary said, these guys have a lot of bad advice going on as well and if you aren't educated, it's easy to be tricked by a man wearing a suit and telling you how much money he can make you, especially going into the ordeal with the big head or even your family members.

I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but we can't deny the fact that this what is happening to a lot of these guys.

No! He means Matrix...

Ahh got ya.

[Chrisksaint]

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No yeah education should come into play, as a HS Sr I was required to take economics and learned some stuff about budgets, etc. Also taking an economics class right now in college that's taking that same stuff a little further

[DaImmaculateONe]

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No yeah education should come into play, as a HS Sr I was required to take economics and learned some stuff about budgets, etc. Also taking an economics class right now in college that's taking that same stuff a little further

its not that there no education is that these guys dont pay attention

how do u write a check for a million dollars give to ur finaicial advisor to pay ur taxes and then not follow up to make sure it was payed

liek dude said IRs aint tryin to hear that

they assume if pay someone or give access to do something it will get done, that why some of them are the easiest targets because by the time they check its already too late.

[TheMatrix31]

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Exactly what did Bernie do that was so stupid?

I don't even remember specifics his part of the story, lol. So many just......unbelievable incidents.