RIAA claims Limewire owes them $72 trillion

[AUChase]

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I don't think anyone is really arguing that it's not stealing.

Technically it is, but I think a lot of these musicians would appreciate someone spending a lot of money on their merch, tickets, etc, even after finding out they only heard their music "illegally".

For example: I saw Nicki Manaj (sp ?) tickets going for well over $100, a few weeks ago. I wasn't interested, but a girl I know was and I thought about surprising her with some tickets.. saw the price and said hell no.

If I was a huge fan or something, it may have been different. While I wouldn't have spent $15-20 on her CD, I would have dropped $200 instantly... Yeah, if you want to paint the picture it's technically stealing, but I'm also not going to sit here and pretend like some of these guys are going broke. If it's a band that's not on a major record label, I'm more likely to buy their album.. because they need the money more.

[oneamongthefence]

The bands I see, the tickets are fairly cheap and more intimate. No way I would pay that much to see a concert. Plus you add in the PPV some get. Top 40 bands aren't going broke by any means neither are their companies.

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[SuperBowlNachos]

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Oh no! Lady Gaga must be starving. How can AC/DC even afford power for their amps!? I see an island without an owner! How will Lars ever afford his shark bar? And all those poor music execs in their one bedroom apartments with community bathrooms! Nooooooo!

Oh ya cause I forgot Lady Gaga and AC/DC are the only people who make music and there are absolutely no artists out there who rely on their music just go get by.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Oh no! Lady Gaga must be starving. How can AC/DC even afford power for their amps!? I see an island without an owner! How will Lars ever afford his shark bar? And all those poor music execs in their one bedroom apartments with community bathrooms! Nooooooo!

Oh ya cause I forgot Lady Gaga and AC/DC are the only people who make music and there are absolutely no artists out there who rely on their music just go get by.

Rich musicians or not, it's still stealing. That's the bottom line.

I guess I steal from the rich and give to the poor.

Technically it is, but I think a lot of these musicians would appreciate someone spending a lot of money on their merch, tickets, etc, even after finding out they only heard their music "illegally".

That's what people don't get. Any artist that actually needs the money would benefit a lot more by their fans buying a $25 t-shirt that cost $7 to make then they would the 30 cents or whatever is it they make on a song.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Any business would benefit more from their customers to not only stop stealing from them, but to also then start buying their products with the highest profit margin. How many people are really illegally downloading a band's entire catalog of music, but yet spending hundreds of dollars on concerts and merchandise? I would think that most of the people that are already buying tickets and t-shirts also buy the music.

Either way the RIAA is a damn dinosaur and half of the problem is its own damn fault.

[kingkilla56]

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Any business would benefit more from their customers to not only stop stealing from them, but to also then start buying their products with the highest profit margin. How many people are really illegally downloading a band's entire catalog of music, but yet spending hundreds of dollars on concerts and merchandise? I would think that most of the people that are already buying tickets and t-shirts also buy the music.

Either way the RIAA is a damn dinosaur and half of the problem is its own damn fault.

What do you mean by this? A few posters have implied that the RIAA had this coming. What do you guys mean?

[Fresh Tendrils]

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What do you mean by this? A few posters have implied that the RIAA had this coming. What do you guys mean?

I think they waited far too long to embrace the format. When they finally noticed instead of actually implementing something that would have helped they instead decided to focus on legal action. iTunes pretty much dammed the flood and all these other applications are filling the cracks now.

[AUChase]

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Yeah, I've bought my fair share of CDs. My collection is probably well over 200. I haven't counted it in a while. The CDs can usually be found cheap online..

I don't buy everything, though... oh well.

[lilbiggio]

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Is it even possible to sue for this much money I mean... there has got to be some sort of settlement in line when it gets to a point where you are asking for more money than mathematically possible.

Also if you're getting into the music industry because you're trying to get paid... those days are long over. Most people who were just coming through at the beginning of the decade have now moved on to producing, working tours, acting, or getting their money in other ways such as off of royalties from radio/movies/DJ's yearly fees/YouTube.

That's where it's at now... they only try so hard to get that extra dollar because they see how much money is being left on the table but as with any business you gotta adjust your business model.

There's people out here doing this for free, or just because they love making music... if you have already made it top 40, which implies that you are going to make a nice lump sum off of merchandise/tours... and you are not putting your content in different mediums (movies,tv) or branching your talents into other areas of the biz while you have this window of opportunity in the shine? Then well... you deserve to take this L.

[bd007h]

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I've bought or own legal physical copies of at least 100 CDs since I was about 8 years old, but I really can't afford to buy all the music I like now-a-days. I do go to a decent amount of concerts each summer and buy shirts either at concerts or off the bands websites.

[bd007h]

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and honestly, there's a good amount of bands that I would have never heard of or cared about if I didn't download stuff of theirs for free.

[bd007h]

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and good article: http://byterevel.com/2011/11/11/why-...ion-copyright/

[SuperBowlNachos]

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I would think that most of the people that are already buying tickets and t-shirts also buy the music.

And most people who aren't buying the tickets and t-shirt wouldn't buy the music if there choice was literally "pay for it, or just not have it". Which is why piracy is really no big deal.

[TheMatrix31]

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It's still theft.

If you go into a store and steal a bag of potato chips, there are still gonna be other bags of potato chips on the shelf but you took one without paying for it.

[bd007h]

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It's still theft.

If you go into a store and steal a bag of potato chips, there are still gonna be other bags of potato chips on the shelf but you took one without paying for it.

not the same bag of potato chips. There will be one less on the rack.

It's like if you made a copy of that bag of potato chips and left the original on the rack for someone else.