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  • BlueNGold
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    • Aug 2009
    • 21817

    #256
    Re: Dexter (Season 8)

    Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
    I couldn't feel anything about Deb's death because it was done so poorly. It was off camera and done so matter of factly that it held no weight for me. It was a total insult to the audience and Jennifer Carpenter that they treated the death of a main character (and almost important as dexter, sometimes even more) so casually. Like everything else this season, it was amateur hour.
    How was it off camera? She died when Dexter pulled the plug on her. And I don't think it was handled casually at all. It was the core of the entire finale episode.

    Anyways, something I find interesting now that everything is said and done with this show is that there's a lot of openings to skip a lot of the bad in the later seasons and still have a fairly decent ending.

    You could stop at the end of Season 4 or at the end of the first episode in Season 5 so you get a conclusion to Rita's death. You could stop right before Deb shoots LaGuerta and instead choose to believe she shot Dexter. Worst of all, you could literally go from Season 7 to the final 2 episodes of the show and it'd probably be even better, which is what someone on reddit did.

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    Originally posted by bradtxmale
    I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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    • Bruins
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      • Mar 2004
      • 6433

      #257
      Re: Dexter (Season 8)

      Originally posted by fpac
      So I wonder if everyone assumed Harrison died on the boat with Dexter or if Elway ever woke up and told anyone one that Hannah fled the country with him.
      Didn't they show Hannah and Harrison in Argentina?

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      • SlimKibbles
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        • Apr 2004
        • 7276

        #258
        Re: Dexter (Season 8)

        Originally posted by Bruins
        Didn't they show Hannah and Harrison in Argentina?
        I think he's talking about everyone in Miami that had no idea Harrison was with Hannah.
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        • BlueNGold
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          • Aug 2009
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          #259
          Re: Dexter (Season 8)

          Originally posted by fpac
          So I wonder if everyone assumed Harrison died on the boat with Dexter or if Elway ever woke up and told anyone one that Hannah fled the country with him.
          Who knows, because apparently -- and this is literally from Sara Colleton herself -- there was too much to do in a one-hour episode. Lol.

          Also, here's an interview with Jennifer Carpenter on the finale.

          In the end, no one finds out who or what Dexter is. Do you think that’s fitting?

          I guess we can’t really say yet because I played my character from A to Z, but I don’t necessarily think that Dexter is done. It’s still deliciously hanging untied; there’s too much intrigue and too much of the appetite for it to completely be unresolved by this finale. Maybe somewhere down the line I wouldn't be surprised if something happens. I would be interested to see Michael come back with the energy that he’d have from taking a real break and seeing what he can do with that character. I’m not trying to hint that I know something is coming, but I’m saying it’s possible.


          And the producers attempting to defend the finale.


          Have to ask: How did Dex get from his boat to the shore in the middle of a hurricane?

          BUCK:
          Hopefully it’s not a question that will be examined too closely. The show has always been a half step away from reality; it’s a hyper-reality. We established there is an emergency life raft with an outboard motor on the boat. He could have gotten in the raft and made it safely to shore.
          Last edited by BlueNGold; 09-23-2013, 07:33 PM.
          Originally posted by bradtxmale
          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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          • Champion8877
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            • Apr 2011
            • 1518

            #260
            Re: Dexter (Season 8)

            Wow, I just, this was just, uhhh, horrible? Worst episode I've ever seen....

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            • p2xgamers
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              • Jul 2002
              • 4735

              #261
              Re: Dexter (Season 8)

              I was really disappointed with the episode, but after thinking of some of the themes they were trying to do - I didn't hate it as much. I saw an interview where they said that they felt Deb dying because of Dexter, would be the worst thing that could happen to him, worse than death.

              I don't agree with that, but do think it's one of the worst things to happen to him - worse than Rita dying. I also like the basic idea of Dexter trying to be more human (which he has tried to do in the past) and then something like Deb dying to cause him to essentially forgo that battle and go back to the old Dexter.

              The problem is the execution was absolutely awful and both things that I kind of liked, I liked the basic idea of them and they were executed badly too. It felt like this could of started 4-5 episodes ago and the show could of been better and the end much better. Also:

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              • BlueNGold
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                • Aug 2009
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                #262
                Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                Originally posted by p2xgamers
                I was really disappointed with the episode, but after thinking of some of the themes they were trying to do - I didn't hate it as much. I saw an interview where they said that they felt Deb dying because of Dexter, would be the worst thing that could happen to him, worse than death.

                I don't agree with that, but do think it's one of the worst things to happen to him - worse than Rita dying. I also like the basic idea of Dexter trying to be more human (which he has tried to do in the past) and then something like Deb dying to cause him to essentially forgo that battle and go back to the old Dexter.

                The problem is the execution was absolutely awful and both things that I kind of liked, I liked the basic idea of them and they were executed badly too. It felt like this could of started 4-5 episodes ago and the show could of been better and the end much better. Also:

                http://imgur.com/a/A0Dl0
                Regarding the linked picture, Dexter going against that was him finally realizing that that option was the best for everyone connected to him. Had he been caught, those people would have been associated with that forever in some form.
                Originally posted by bradtxmale
                I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                • LakerFan56
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                  • Feb 2013
                  • 415

                  #263
                  Re: Dexter (Season 8)


                  Thanks for posting that. I'm scratching my head on them not having Dexter chased because it felt "repetitious" and instead choosing new threats for him to chase like they've had every season.

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                  • Burns11
                    Greatness Has Arrived
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 7406

                    #264
                    Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                    Originally posted by The Chef
                    Its not making it all in his mind, its almost that time stopped while he was in there and we were seeing all the events that put him there. I think it would have been a far better ending but it would have had to been shaped by the last 2 seasons entirely since clearly it wouldnt fit with the way the last 2 seasons played out.
                    You need to go reread the quote, the story he said he was basing it on was a man on the gallows, he drops, rope snaps, he runs across a river and is hugging his wife and child when the rope snaps tight and he's hung. All that ran through his mind was fantasy, played out in the split second before the rope tightened.

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                    • Hassan Darkside
                      We Here
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 7561

                      #265
                      Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                      Didn't care for the finale (or season) much at all.

                      One thing that I wish they did more with, in retrospect, was the narration/Dexter's voice-over. At first it was very interesting as far as explaining his psyche and decisions, however, I got real tired of it the last few seasons.

                      I wish as they altered Dexter's mental state, they altered his monologue. Would have been even better to see them manipulate it to the point where he becomes an unreliable narrator in the sense that we, as a viewer, can't really trust what's coming out of his mouth (or what's in his mind).
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                      • Seymour Scagnetti
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2489

                        #266
                        Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                        Originally posted by BlueNGold
                        How was it off camera? She died when Dexter pulled the plug on her. And I don't think it was handled casually at all. It was the core of the entire finale episode.
                        She was declared nearly brain dead (which is pretty dead to me, dex pulling the plug was merely a formality) matter of factly by the doctor a few minutes after saying she was gonna be fine. They could have at least shown the drama of her turning for the worst with people like Dexter, Quinn and Batista around her rather than Quinn just informing Dexter after Saxon's arrest.

                        And why not have her enter the hospital in grave condition to give some weight to the situation rather than giving us "Oh she'll be fine......oh wait....now she's brain dead, sorry folks" They wasted time with a throwaway character like Saxon who had no reason to go back to the hospital anyways and they build up this little mini drama of him looking for Deb and being thwarted at the last minute and then she dies right after anyways. Absolutely pointless.

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                        • BlueNGold
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                          #267
                          Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                          Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                          She was declared nearly brain dead (which is pretty dead to me, dex pulling the plug was merely a formality) matter of factly by the doctor a few minutes after saying she was gonna be fine. They could have at least shown the drama of her turning for the worst with people like Dexter, Quinn and Batista around her rather than Quinn just informing Dexter after Saxon's arrest.

                          And why not have her enter the hospital in grave condition to give some weight to the situation rather than giving us "Oh she'll be fine......oh wait....now she's brain dead, sorry folks" They wasted time with a throwaway character like Saxon who had no reason to go back to the hospital anyways and they build up this little mini drama of him looking for Deb and being thwarted at the last minute and then she dies right after anyways. Absolutely pointless.
                          I don't think it wouldn't have made a significant difference either way. And that scene was probably Quinn's best of the entire show, so there's that too.

                          I didn't mind the sudden switch in her condition. It made it that much more of a surprise to me, as well as Dexter and Deb's final conversation, which I thought was good as well.

                          Either way, there was much, much worse things going on here. I don't feel this was one of them.
                          Originally posted by bradtxmale
                          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                          • Seymour Scagnetti
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2489

                            #268
                            Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                            Originally posted by LakerFan56
                            Thanks for posting that. I'm scratching my head on them not having Dexter chased because it felt "repetitious" and instead choosing new threats for him to chase like they've had every season.
                            That made me laugh as well. It wasn't reptitious for the writers, it was pure laziness because making a well thought out final season would have taken some thought and cohesiveness but why do that when you can introduce 4 serial killers to keep things fresh. You had the mall gym guy first, then they went to the protege, then to Hannah and finally Saxon. 4 serial killers to cover each quarter of the season and more importantly 4 times the danger.

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                            • BlueNGold
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                              • Aug 2009
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                              #269
                              Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                              Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                              That made me laugh as well. It wasn't reptitious for the writers, it was pure laziness because making a well thought out final season would have taken some thought and cohesiveness but why do that when you can introduce 4 serial killers to keep things fresh. You had the mall gym guy first, then they went to the protege, then to Hannah and finally Saxon. 4 serial killers to cover each quarter of the season and more importantly 4 times the danger.
                              Except there was next to no danger the entire season.

                              I can understand what they were trying to do going in a different and unexpected direction, but the execution was just awful. They can blame it on a rushed schedule as much as they want, and to some extent Showtime definitely deserves some of the blame, but the writers/producers deserve all of the negativity they're receiving. There just isn't much of an excuse for a lot of the things they've done these past few years, and this season specifically.
                              Originally posted by bradtxmale
                              I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                              • Seymour Scagnetti
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2489

                                #270
                                Re: Dexter (Season 8)

                                Originally posted by BlueNGold
                                Except there was next to no danger the entire season.

                                I can understand what they were trying to do going in a different and unexpected direction, but the execution was just awful. They can blame it on a rushed schedule as much as they want, and to some extent Showtime definitely deserves some of the blame, but the writers/producers deserve all of the negativity they're receiving. There just isn't much of an excuse for a lot of the things they've done these past few years, and this season specifically.
                                I was being entirely sarcastic. The path they chose this season had no redeeming value whatsoever and wasn't different or unexpected in any way. It was the same thing they did every other season. Introduce a bunch of forgettable characters and kill them off in 3 shows or less.

                                There was no reason to introduce any new characters, you can get away with one but they literally introduced half a dozen which took valuable time and focus from the main characters which we have watched for years and wanted to see for the last time. You had titty girl, Vogel, her son, the protege ( i don't even remember his ****ing name, he was so pointless) and Elway. Oh yeah and the Marshall guy whose name I can't remember either. That's how memorable they were.

                                Batista was inconsequential and Deb had next to nothing the last few shows except for being Hannah's babysitter (and going thru an entire personality change in less than a week) and rolling her eyes as to what Dexter was doing which I'm sure wasn't acting. And then let's kill her off too. Even her reuniting with Quinn was a throwaway scene where they are walking on the beach and 3 seconds later they are saying "hey I love you".

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