Batman Vs Superman - Dawn Of Justice

[Beantown]

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You lost me at Eva Green.

I was gone after "Gina would have been perfect."

She can't act and that's 100% more important these days in most movies (unless you're Megan Fox, because then you just get roles because you're trashy-hot). As someone said, Gal isn't going to blow anyone away with her acting, no, but Gina has proven to be terrible and I see zero chance she could ever handle any serious acting scene required for Wonder Woman.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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She was adequate in Haywire as I found it enjoyable in an old action movie type of way, but she had a good cast to hide her inabilities.

Honestly, most actresses just don't have the body which isn't surprising considering society's standards. Traditionally, isn't it harder for women to gain muscle mass as easily as men?

I guess I just leave too much stuff up to "movie magic" fixes. If Michael Keaton can be a badass Batman then I don't really see all the fuss about Gal's physique. Considering she's served in IDF, its not like smaller built women can't wreck havoc.

[Money99]

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I was gone after "Gina would have been perfect."

She can't act and that's 100% more important these days in most movies (unless you're Megan Fox, because then you just get roles because you're trashy-hot). As someone said, Gal isn't going to blow anyone away with her acting, no, but Gina has proven to be terrible and I see zero chance she could ever handle any serious acting scene required for Wonder Woman.

Something tells me outside of Batman and Superman, there's not going to be a lot of 'acting' by any of the other hero's.
Most likely, they'll get a small amount of screentime.

So why go with a twig with little acting chops.

Gina isn't the greatest actor but neither are a lot of action stars. Affleck will never be confused with John Malkovich.
So if you're going to bring in a pretty face, why not at least pick an actress that looks like WW to some degree.
If that means larger breasts, then yes, find that. Thor and Sups have big arms, big chest and wide back.
I didn't see anyone picking a stick figure for the roles of Thor or Superman. Why does WW get a pass for not looking like her comic-book counterpart?

[Money99]

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She was adequate in Haywire as I found it enjoyable in an old action movie type of way, but she had a good cast to hide her inabilities.

Honestly, most actresses just don't have the body which isn't surprising considering society's standards. Traditionally, isn't it harder for women to gain muscle mass as easily as men?

I guess I just leave too much stuff up to "movie magic" fixes. If Michael Keaton can be a badass Batman then I don't really see all the fuss about Gal's physique. Considering she's served in IDF, its not like smaller built women can't wreck havoc.

I think most people gave Keaton a pass simply because this was the first live-action Batman film to come along. Everyone was geeked for it.
But I remember when that movie first came out and I had a problem with Keaton as Bruce Wayne. IMHO, he didn't fit the part at all and I still think that way years later.

[TripleCrown9]

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I think most people gave Keaton a pass simply because this was the first live-action Batman film to come along. Everyone was geeked for it.
But I remember when that movie first came out and I had a problem with Keaton as Bruce Wayne. IMHO, he didn't fit the part at all and I still think that way years later.

That is an outright lie, sir.

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[King_B_Mack]

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What role has Gina Carano actually had that was a role to allow her to actually showcase her acting ability? She had a few scenes in Fast and Furious where she was supposed to be the bad *** chick that doesn't talk much and follows orders like a soldier and it's not like she was horrible at that. Gadot meanwhile really showed nothing special at all in her larger role in three different Fast and Furious movies. She hasn't shown she can carry a movie either, but we're okay with her as a questionable actress who doesn't even look the part. That makes zero sense to me.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Actually, it wasn't the first live-action Batman film. And Keaton's casting was actually criticized when it was announced, too. I imagine the outrage would be greater today with the prominence of social media and internet. ****, just look at Heath Ledger's casting announcement.

The way Burton wrote Bruce Wayne is more a problem than how Keaton's performance was to me.

If WW is only going to be in a "team up" movie then I think Gina would have been OK, but I think WB wants to establish the character with solo movies, too, and I don't think she would be able to carry a tent-pole movie.

Also, Affleck is a pretty darn good actor.

[SPTO]

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I think most people gave Keaton a pass simply because this was the first live-action Batman film to come along. Everyone was geeked for it.
But I remember when that movie first came out and I had a problem with Keaton as Bruce Wayne. IMHO, he didn't fit the part at all and I still think that way years later.

As Fresh Tendrils has said Keaton was roundly criticized as well, however I must be in the minority in that while it wasn't written well I thought Keaton captured the essence of Bruce Wayne pretty well all things considered.

I think Gail looks good enough based on what little we've seen of her. I think that's one reason why they eschewed the more traditional look of WW as what she was wearing pretty much hid her physical weakness. I mean we're not going to be focusing on her legs too often in this movie.

I do wish this was 15 years ago as Lucy Lawless in that period would've been a lot better as WW.

[Money99]

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What role has Gina Carano actually had that was a role to allow her to actually showcase her acting ability? She had a few scenes in Fast and Furious where she was supposed to be the bad *** chick that doesn't talk much and follows orders like a soldier and it's not like she was horrible at that. Gadot meanwhile really showed nothing special at all in her larger role in three different Fast and Furious movies. She hasn't shown she can carry a movie either, but we're okay with her as a questionable actress who doesn't even look the part. That makes zero sense to me.

Totally agree.
I don't understand their logic:
Pretty girl, poor acting skills, built like 12YO girl >>>> Pretty girl, unproven acting skills, athletic build who can actually kick a lot of arse.

I actually think she did a good job in Haywire. She didn't have a lot of lines, but not once did I think her acting hurt the film or pulled me out.

Actually, it wasn't the first live-action Batman film. And Keaton's casting was actually criticized when it was announced, too. I imagine the outrage would be greater today with the prominence of social media and internet. ****, just look at Heath Ledger's casting announcement.

The way Burton wrote Bruce Wayne is more a problem than how Keaton's performance was to me.

If WW is only going to be in a "team up" movie then I think Gina would have been OK, but I think WB wants to establish the character with solo movies, too, and I don't think she would be able to carry a tent-pole movie.

Also, Affleck is a pretty darn good actor.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's bad either. And I think his age and style will be good for an older Batman. I still think Josh Brolin would have been perfect.
If confronted by either man in a dark alley, I would always choose to deal with Affleck over Brolin.

If it's true WB wants to make a few stand-alone Wonder Woman films then I'm not sure there's anyone out there worthy who fits both the look of WW and can act.
But considering The Rock was given several action roles based solely on his look and presence, I'd say an actress like Carano would trump any unknown twig with below average acting chops.

[Chrisksaint]

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Honestly, most actresses just don't have the body which isn't surprising considering society's standards. Traditionally, isn't it harder for women to gain muscle mass as easily as men?
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Probably nailed it right here, most likely have a larger chance of finding the accurate look walking around a mall then in Hollywood.

I've never been thinking about a ripped WW, just you know someone with some curves. See how this does I suppose

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Obligatory Xena pictures post since my man failed to do so with his name-drop of Lucy Lawless:

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[Beantown]

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I actually think she did a good job in Haywire. She didn't have a lot of lines, but not once did I think her acting hurt the film or pulled me out.

And that's where our opinions differ. Movie was awful to me and she was a big part of that. Could not take her seriously and that was a role built for her so she gets zero rope from me.

[kingkilla56]

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Ya'll keep saying the chick from Fast 6, the Rock's partner (right?), couldnt carry her own movie. But what tells us Gadot can? What tells us any woman they cast could, including Jaimie Alexander (who would be my pick btw)?

I liken this to Chris Hemsworth being cast as Thor. Not sure what made him qualified to carry his own move prior to the first Thor, he looked the part for sure. And I think he was ok in the first one. He was more comfortable in his other Thor films. But Im not following the "no way she can carry a film on her own" rhetoric. And that goes for Gadot too.

My only problem (and I say that loosely) with Gadot is that she doesnt look the part. She looks like she belongs in Paris eating 200 calorie meals prepping for the runway. That said, she may be able to knock this bitch out of the park. But until then, she needs bigger legs!

Btw Jaimie Alexander
I mean seriously look at this woman (pretty big photo)

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[23]

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Alexander has the look but that's the point I was making with her pic (lady sif)... its not hard to find someone with the look if you really look for it rather than pic some chick who looks like WW before she started training in her youth.

Nobody is asking for her to look all cut up and have the amrs of David Robinson but c'mon man, there was no reason to go the bony route.

[RockinDaMike]

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I really liked Jaimie Alexander to be it, she looks perfect and was told she's a good actress.

I'm questionable on Gadot too but the people who are making the movie obviously like her and casted her and in no way in hell were thinking of Carano to be in the movie.

She's gonna be in three movies, this one, JL and her stand alone so she must of had one hell of an audition.

A lot of people have complained about the casting for DC movies, especially the outrage when Ledger was casted but all of the casting has been really amazing or solid so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until one bombs.




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