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  • seasprite
    Phenom
    • Jul 2008
    • 8984

    #31
    Re: Westworld (HBO)

    Really liked the first episode..... I'm already hooked

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    • daflyboys
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 18238

      #32
      Re: Westworld (HBO)

      Originally posted by Money99
      There's guns and horsies. It's a western! Don't ruin this for me!

      I love the concept though (never saw the original movie).

      I agree about how great the transitions have been with the robots. Very good acting.

      I'm wondering if Hopkin's goal is to create an entire society of robots so that he doesn't have to deal with people anymore?
      Ok, I get it... you're into the "ptchoo, ptchoo, ptchooooo"!!

      I'm willing to bet it goes much deeper than that for Hopkin's character. The reveal should be great.

      It will be worth your while to see the original just for background and for Brenner's performance. He was bad ***. Keep in mind the limitations of the special effects for that era.

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      • fistofrage
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13682

        #33
        Re: Westworld (HBO)

        So just so I make sure I have this straight....

        This is an amusement park say 20,000 thousand acres about the size of the Disney World Complex so you have a train running through it a small town some ranches, etc.

        And there are hundreds of Robots that run the exact same script each time and play out a story each day.

        The Robots cannot harm the guests, but the guests can do whatever they want.

        I would assume guests can harm other guests and they use real bullets.

        A couple of these Robots are started to go off script and even start to reason like the dad trying to comprehend a modern photo he got.

        And we have a villain. The Black Bart guest that is trying to wreak havoc on everything and push the limits. Maybe trying to understand how this all works.

        Seems interesting. In the previews I saw, I thought it was some type of dream simulation that they monitored on that giant map in the room, but it seems that this is a full scale amusement park.
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        • jake44np
          Post Like a Champion!
          • Jul 2002
          • 9563

          #34
          Re: Westworld (HBO)

          Originally posted by daflyboys
          Ok, I get it... you're into the "ptchoo, ptchoo, ptchooooo"!!

          I'm willing to bet it goes much deeper than that for Hopkin's character. The reveal should be great.

          It will be worth your while to see the original just for background and for Brenner's performance. He was bad ***. Keep in mind the limitations of the special effects for that era.
          Loved the first episode, really looking forward to see how this plays out.
          How can we watch the original? I don't see it on Netflix.
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          • Money99
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2002
            • 12695

            #35
            Re: Westworld (HBO)

            Originally posted by daflyboys
            Ok, I get it... you're into the "ptchoo, ptchoo, ptchooooo"!!
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            • Money99
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2002
              • 12695

              #36
              Re: Westworld (HBO)

              Originally posted by fistofrage
              So just so I make sure I have this straight....

              This is an amusement park say 20,000 thousand acres about the size of the Disney World Complex so you have a train running through it a small town some ranches, etc.

              And there are hundreds of Robots that run the exact same script each time and play out a story each day.
              Not sure about that. I think they run the same script - mostly.
              But I think every day they may introduce different story lines for Newcomers (humans) which alters some of the Hosts (robots) patterns.

              The Robots cannot harm the guests, but the guests can do whatever they want.

              I would assume guests can harm other guests and they use real bullets.

              A couple of these Robots are started to go off script and even start to reason like the dad trying to comprehend a modern photo he got.
              I'm curious about this as well. Are they using real bullets, or just simulated guns which the robots respond to as if they were real?

              And we have a villain. The Black Bart guest that is trying to wreak havoc on everything and push the limits. Maybe trying to understand how this all works.
              I'm really interested to see if he's an actual robot or a human.

              Seems interesting. In the previews I saw, I thought it was some type of dream simulation that they monitored on that giant map in the room, but it seems that this is a full scale amusement park.
              That's what I assumed at first too. Then the opening credits had me wondering why they were making full-scale replicas of people and horses.

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              • jake44np
                Post Like a Champion!
                • Jul 2002
                • 9563

                #37
                Re: Westworld (HBO)

                I am almost certain it is not a dream simulation but an actual large amusement park with robots.
                Again think Jurrasic Park with humans instead of Dino's.
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                • fistofrage
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13682

                  #38
                  Re: Westworld (HBO)

                  Originally posted by jake44np
                  I am almost certain it is not a dream simulation but an actual large amusement park with robots.
                  Again think Jurrasic Park with humans instead of Dino's.
                  I'm sure it's a real park. I just went into it with a different notion based on the previews I saw.

                  I would like to know if bullets are real though. Seems like that could turn into chaos.

                  Seems like this would go off the rails quickly. If you have human guests that can basically do anything without consequence, it would seem that eventually they would start assaulting the other guests or maybe not even know who was real and who was robot.
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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #39
                    Re: Westworld (HBO)

                    It's an amusement park.

                    The virtual thing is a virtual map of the park that the top level management uses to monitor the park, handle security, essentially know what the heck is happening anywhere.

                    Remember that this is an undisclosed time in the future where robots are so lifelike, humans can interact with them as in a play. Plus all of mankind's known diseases have been eliminated. This is a very very distant future. So the capabilities of something that advanced as a security monitor is, well, I guess pretty easy to assume as possible. What isn't possible in this world? I guess, for the creator of the park, making robots completely human. What else is there to tackle in this future?

                    Regarding the bullets. They are real bullets. Their behavior changes depending on who the gun is being pointed at. If it's a robot, it's deadly. If it's a human, the bullet is not deadly. It's mostly a pinch of pain. We also have to assume that a 30-year vet of the park is probably wearing a vest or stopped giving a crap about the pain those "rubber" bullets inflict. The guy is prepared.


                    I don't consider Nolan's quote about the guns to be a spoiler. It's just information on how they work which I think is important for us to know. It's not supposed to be a mystery.

                    “It’s not the guns,” Nolan said. “It’s the bullets. We thought a lot about this. In the original film, the guns won’t operate guest on guest, but we felt like the guests would want to have a more visceral experience here. So when they’re shot it has sort of the impact. They’re called simunitions. The U.S. military trains with rounds like the ones we’re talking about. But there’s a bit of an impact, a bit of a sting. So it’s not entirely consequence-free for the guests.”
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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #40
                      Re: Westworld (HBO)

                      This was absolutely fantastic.... Ed Harris as a villain was perfectly cast. The balance between dialogue and action was very well done also.

                      The cinematography was beautiful.

                      HBO has a winner on it hands with this and I couldn't be happier.


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                      • ODogg
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 37953

                        #41
                        Re: Westworld (HBO)

                        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                        This was absolutely fantastic.... Ed Harris as a villain was perfectly cast. The balance between dialogue and action was very well done also.

                        The cinematography was beautiful.

                        HBO has a winner on it hands with this and I couldn't be happier.


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                        So right about Ed Harris, he's perfect for that role


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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #42
                          Re: Westworld (HBO)

                          Originally posted by Jay D
                          I'm not buying that Ed Harris is human. I know he didn't get killed, but in the film, he had the ability to override the weapons. I think he has figured out how to appear human.
                          It would make sense. He seems to be the counterpart to the movie's Yul Brynner, so the curve-ball would be him as human, although I don't think that would be as interesting.

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                          • daflyboys
                            Banned
                            • May 2003
                            • 18238

                            #43
                            Re: Westworld (HBO)

                            I have no idea how this is ONLY an 87 and 81 on RT. Especially the audience rating it lower than the reviewers.

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                            • jfsolo
                              Live Action, please?
                              • May 2003
                              • 12965

                              #44
                              Re: Westworld (HBO)

                              Originally posted by daflyboys
                              I have no idea how this is ONLY an 87 and 81 on RT. Especially the audience rating it lower than the reviewers.
                              I'm sure that some of the people that down voted honestly don't like it, but I also think that some of the votes are protest votes.
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                              • greenegt
                                G-Men
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 4494

                                #45
                                Re: Westworld (HBO)

                                HBO does it again. Great premier. Can't wait to see where the story goes.
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