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  • EnigmaNemesis
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    • Apr 2006
    • 12216

    #841
    Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

    Originally posted by Leon
    It's actually "A SONG of Ice and Fire," not story.

    But yes, I think it goes both ways. Ice (Jon) and Fire (Dany) but in terms of pure prophecy and all that, Jon could very well be the Song of Ice and Fire. Then there's also The Others/White Walkers (Ice) versus Azor Ahai/R'hllor/Lord of Light (Fire).
    Hahaha, how did I miss that twice? Meant to write Song, and I think autocorrect did story the first time, and the second, well, may have just been me being a der der derrr, typing while cooking, lol.

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    • jeremym480
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      • Oct 2008
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      #842
      Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

      Regarding Jon Snow's father - HBO made it official by uploading the following graphic:

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      • EnigmaNemesis
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        • Apr 2006
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        #843
        Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

        Originally posted by jeremym480
        Regarding Jon Snow's father - HBO made it official by uploading the following graphic:



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        • kingkilla56
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          • Jun 2009
          • 19395

          #844
          Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

          Originally posted by Leon
          Whuu? I don't dislike Littlefinger much less think he isn't as smart as he makes himself out to be. I'm merely pointing out what evidence the show has given us as viewers and that is he knew jack **** about Ramsay -- which is surprising, again, considering his whole shtick is knowing everything.



          There's no evidence to say he somehow foresaw Jon battling Ramsay; that Sansa would find her way to Jon; that Jon would even be alive to meet Sansa.



          S5 just gave us Littlefinger setting Sansa up with the Boltons and possibly having an heir. Littlefinger being Littlefinger and playing all sides (with Olenna in the Sparrow plot), he promises to Cersei that he'll take the North from the Boltons if he's named Warden of the North. Whatever that plan was, Sansa is in the middle of it because of her claim. Littlefinger not knowing about Ramsay merely caused him to pivot his plans and as a direct result, he's probably hatching something new sitting in that lonely corner of Winterfell.


          Giving Sansa Stark to the Boltons on a silver platter was the biggest bonehead play in the game of thrones since Robb married a non-Frey. I still don't see what LF gained by doing such. Especially if his endgame was truly to end up on the Iron Throne with Sansa Stark.
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          • The JareBear
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            • Jul 2010
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            #845
            Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

            Yeah I love the Ice and Fire parallels all over the show.

            Jon himself is a child of Ice and Fire. He's the theme, embodied.
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            • Leon
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              • Mar 2003
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              #846
              Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

              Originally posted by jeremym480
              Regarding Jon Snow's father - HBO made it official by uploading the following graphic:

              I thought it was a joke, until I actually traced it. So, semi-joke maybe? Since it's confusing and all.
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              • RockinDaMike
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                • Feb 2003
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                #847
                Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                Hmm, they left out Tyrion.

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                • EnigmaNemesis
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                  • Apr 2006
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                  #848
                  Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                  Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                  Hmm, they left out Tyrion.

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                  I am still going with that he is a Targaryen. It is why the hungry dragons did not eat him when he was freeing them. The show wanted you to think that it was solely because they were smart (knowing they would be freed from him), as Tyrion had said, which is true, but they could have laid waste to him after the fact, instead they looked at one another, and walked away.

                  Something inside Tyrion pushed him to free the dragons himself. He could have sent anyone, but he felt that he had to be the one to do it.

                  Also, he is feeling connected to Dany far more than anyone in his life thus far, her naming him The Hand is so fitting as well, and comes full circle. Once he finds out he is of dragon's blood himself, he will be the one to wrap his hands around the neck of Cersei.
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                  • kingkilla56
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                    • Jun 2009
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                    #849
                    Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                    I think Jamie has to be the one to kill Cersei. It's too much drama to leave on the table lol.
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                    • EnigmaNemesis
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                      • Apr 2006
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                      #850
                      Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                      Originally posted by kingkilla56
                      I think Jamie has to be the one to kill Cersei. It's too much drama to leave on the table lol.
                      Hope he has one massive hand, because the bronze one is a lame duck, lol.

                      I get that it would make for more drama, but maybe he will have a 'hand' in it so to speak.

                      Maybe she kills Jamie, which drives Tyrion even more, since his only Lannister supporter was his older 'brother'. Might be a trifecta affair as well all in one room, the three of them.
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                      • CMH
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                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #851
                        Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                        Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                        Hmm, they left out Tyrion.

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                        And Cersei.

                        According to the info graphic, Tywin only fathered Jamie.

                        But if Cersei is his twin, that can't be true. So I don't know how to interpret this graphic outside of it's missing information and we probably shouldn't make assumptions.
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                        • N51_rob
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #852
                          Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                          Jamie could do it. Give her strong wine (like she gave Robert) and as she's drifting off smother her with a pillow.


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                            • Mar 2004
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                            #853
                            Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                            Originally posted by The JareBear
                            Yeah I love the Ice and Fire parallels all over the show.

                            Jon himself is a child of Ice and Fire. He's the theme, embodied.
                            Remember this animated film?



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                            All this Ice & Fire talk made me remember it.

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                            • The JareBear
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                              • Jul 2010
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                              #854
                              Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                              Originally posted by kingkilla56
                              I think Jamie has to be the one to kill Cersei. It's too much drama to leave on the table lol.

                              I'm definitely fascinated to see where they go with it. I could see it going down either way
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                              • jeremym480
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                                • Oct 2008
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                                #855
                                Re: Game of Thrones: Season 6

                                Originally posted by Leon
                                I thought it was a joke, until I actually traced it. So, semi-joke maybe? Since it's confusing and all.
                                Not a joke. I know most of us bought in to the R+L=J theory a long time ago, but it's never been 100% confirmed. There was talk in this thread that Robert Baratheon potentially being Jon's father. I saw the graphic, though it was pretty cool/informative and figured I would share. That's all.

                                Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                                Hmm, they left out Tyrion.

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                                Originally posted by CMH
                                And Cersei.

                                According to the info graphic, Tywin only fathered Jamie.

                                But if Cersei is his twin, that can't be true. So I don't know how to interpret this graphic outside of it's missing information and we probably shouldn't make assumptions.
                                If you click on the link the name of the infographic is See the Connections Behind Ned’s Promise (which I probably should have included in my last post). That's what Tyrion and Cersei aren't on there.
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