The Joker 2019

[Smallville102001]

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Too dramatic and boring overall, all the way down the final scene! Just never really got interesting, he's a great actor. But this movie was dull and boring throughout.

Even his laugh was terrible and just over done and just made me realize, he's not The (DC Joker)
He's just a Joker!

Movie gets 2/5 stars from me, just because of the acting! Movie was super low budget and just never got good!

I thought I was the only one who didn't really like the movie lol. The laugh in the trailer I thought was good but I also thought because of what was happing in the trailers that it was just kind of a warm up laugh and that it was going to become even more scary later in the movie but it didn't.

[daflyboys]

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My wife and I saw it today...

I walked away thinking it was the most bizarre, disturbing, interesting, boring and unique movie I've ever seen.

It drags at times - but I get it: it's an "introspective" type of movie where the individual scenes without dialogue are meant to create emotional pictures.

I think the movie is clearly pushing propaganda - there is the political agenda, and I also felt like he has little to no consequences to his behavior and actions.

Honestly, I think I like Heath Ledger's version of the Joker more because it brought more humor into the darkness and didn't go so heavy on the "victim mindset" presented in this one. They could have cut 15-20 minutes from this movie and actually made it better.

Overall, I felt it was worth my time to see. The door was clearly left open for a follow-up. I don't want to come across like a prude - I did find it interesting. But I wouldn't go overboard with the hype-train.

Largely with you on this. I wouldn't say "most", and wasn't really bored. It's hard to peg-hole this one and that certainly is the aim in terms of making it Phoenix's own unique version. I certainly didn't like the DeNiro casting as once again I think this is a role better served by someone who wasn't an A-lister (but recognizable), plus DeNiro recent public comments doesn't help me and I have a hard time separating that out.

But you can see the involvement Phoenix has in the role, the apparent dedication he made, and bizarre is not foreign to him. The story in and of itself was definitely serviceable, though I'm not really into movies any longer aggrandizing psychopathic/delusional killers (not that I ever was). Then when you look at the Joker for what he is, you consider Batman (my favorite DC character) and ask why can he simply not kill him over all the times he battled him.

Certainly different than Ledger's version, which I agree still stands above this. I didn't get the hype either. I don't even get why the media is bent out of shape about this and giving this movie bad reviews. I don't see them as being "responsible" for helping Joker come to power. I just saw them as reporting what he was doing.

[TripleCrown9]

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The Joker is about to pass Deadpool for highest-grossing R-rated movie.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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We saw it this past weekend. Joaquin does an amazing job, but outside of him it was really hit and miss when looking back on it. It's definitely a movie I don't need to see again in the immediate future.

They definitely gave this Joker some grounded weight. It would be a shame if they do continue with whatever universe they want to craft without this approach.

[mestevo]

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Nearly took #1 again last weekend as Maleficent continues to underperform.

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[TripleCrown9]

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Joker has passed The Mask as the most profitable comic book movie of all-time.

It's made nearly 15 times (950mil+) more than what it cost to make (65mil).

[NYJets]

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Finally saw it today and loved it.

[Master Live 013]

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Thought it was very good.

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Probably the worst thing about the movie at the Batman's tie ins. Oh, so Arthur happens to interact with Bruce...roll eyes. And the reenactment of the Wayne's murder for the 100th time.

I did liked what they did with Thomas Wayne, brought him down a peg or two. Throughout the years you could be mistaken if you thought Thomas was the second coming of Abraham Lincoln.

When the movie started and the principal characters were established I thought the only way the kind of "hide your kids, this film might be the end of Western Civilization as we know it" commentary from some in the media could be justified was if Joker ended up killing Zazie Beetz' character and her daughter on screen.

Crisis averted.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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So it's cool that he killed them off screen?

I understand visuals are more powerful, but it doesn't really change anything to me. He's not a character to sympathize for.

[Blzer]

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According to Todd Phillips, he didn't kill them at all. He only killed characters of a certain wrongdoing.

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[Master Live 013]

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So it's cool that he killed them off screen?

I understand visuals are more powerful, but it doesn't really change anything to me. He's not a character to sympathize for.

Did he? I have seen this said in this thread before but from my understanding of the film

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he didn't kill her or her daughter.

Perhaps I didn't caught that he did.

[RockinDaMike]

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Looks like a sequel is in the works.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-sequel-works-as-todd-phillips-eyes-more-dc-origin-movies-1256255

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[Fresh Tendrils]

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Did he? I have seen this said in this thread before but from my understanding of the film

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he didn't kill her or her daughter.

Perhaps I didn't caught that he did.

That's what I thought, too. I guess I read the last part of your previous post differently.

Either way. If he did or did not - doesn't really matter to me.

[Blzer]

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Looks like a sequel is in the works.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-sequel-works-as-todd-phillips-eyes-more-dc-origin-movies-1256255

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Somewhere, in a parallel universe, Hollywood understands the definition of “integrity.”

It’s not even about whether or not this will be good. Sooner or later, the slippery slope will open this to being a new DCEU franchise. There is absolutely no need for this. This was a standalone origin story that had one too many Batman connections as is. Don’t worsen what it had already made.

That being said, if it’s made I will likely see it.

[TripleCrown9]

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They're already rebooting it.

Saw a headline the other day that the second Flash movie (correct, the first one hasn't even started production) is being planned to follow Flashpoint and used as a way to introduce Robert Pattinson's Batman into the bigger "DCEU".