Wonder Woman 2 (2019)

[TheShizNo1]

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Someone go break this tie.....

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[TMagic]

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I'll do the honors...

Terrible. One of the worst movies I've seen in a long time.

And I thought the first was really good and was legit excited about this one.

D-

And I'm tempted to give it my very first F as I can't think of anything I liked about it

[TripleCrown9]

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I just got home from the theater, and I really enjoyed it. Like, REALLY enjoyed it. Wouldn't say loved it, but I had a great time.

I didn't see any of the negatives that people complained about. Not once did I think "This should've ended 45 minutes ago."

Sorry I'm not sophisticated enough to hate these movies.

And I'll be there for *checks schedule* Black Widow with the same enthusiasm.

[Smallville102001]

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I just got home from the theater, and I really enjoyed it. Like, REALLY enjoyed it. Wouldn't say loved it, but I had a great time.

I didn't see any of the negatives that people complained about. Not once did I think "This should've ended 45 minutes ago."

Sorry I'm not sophisticated enough to hate these movies.

And I'll be there for *checks schedule* Black Widow with the same enthusiasm.

I didn't fell like it dragged on to long its just like the poster above you there was really nothing I liked about it. Well I did like the way the villain was defeated at the end.

[Blzer]

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^ I'm not saying these films necessarily have "spoilers," but... spoilers?

EDIT: Let's put it this way... I didn't know what to expect at the end of Infinity War or Endgame, but dare I say if I spoke anything of those endings without a tag it would be pandemonium around here.

[KSUowls]

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I just got home from the theater, and I really enjoyed it. Like, REALLY enjoyed it. Wouldn't say loved it, but I had a great time.

I didn't see any of the negatives that people complained about. Not once did I think "This should've ended 45 minutes ago."

Sorry I'm not sophisticated enough to hate these movies.

And I'll be there for *checks schedule* Black Widow with the same enthusiasm.

Not sure why your taking a shot at people who don't share your opinion about a movie, or trying to make it contentious. Truly unnecessary.



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[TripleCrown9]

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Not sure why your taking a shot at people who don't share your opinion about a movie, or trying to make it contentious. Truly unnecessary.



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If anything, it's a shot at myself. I never have any deep thoughts after seeing a superhero movie because it's an opportunity to shut my brain off for two hours, so I never have any reason to hate them.

I even went into this one with some of the negative reactions in my head, and couldn't spot stuff that people were complaining about.

[jfsolo]

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If anything, it's a shot at myself. I never have any deep thoughts after seeing a superhero movie because it's an opportunity to shut my brain off for two hours, so I never have any reason to hate them.

I even went into this one with some of the negative reactions in my head, and couldn't spot stuff that people were complaining about.

We're in a era where a lot of people can't just not like a piece of entertainment. They have to go the extra mile in portraying something as practically the worst ever. That kind of hyperbole basically poisons the discussion going forward.

[TripleCrown9]

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I think a lot of it has to do with mindset.

If you only read the negative things, and focus on how everyone thinks it sucks, then you're going to walk into the theater expecting a bad experience, looking for mistakes and plot holes and all that.

[tdawg3782]

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We're in a era where a lot of people can't just not like a piece of entertainment. They have to go the extra mile in portraying something as practically the worst ever. That kind of hyperbole basically poisons the discussion going forward.

Couldn't agree more.

For me I didn't not like it. I just thought I'd like it more then I did. But like Triple I'm super easy to entertain and it was a cool 2.5 hours to sit back and relax. But usually I want to immediately watch superhero movies again ASAP. Just didn't have that feeling this time. Oh well. No harm no foul.

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[Fresh Tendrils]

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I can certainly understand why a lot of viewers did not enjoy the movie especially with the way the Marvel cinematic-verse has conditioned movie goers over the past decade. It was nearly as opposite of the Marvel "formula" as you could get.

The theme and overall vibe of the movie is certainly going to rub against the grain for many. Its a movie that hinges on an uplifting message and positive outlook on the world and humanity and for many, especially this year, that's a hard perspective to understand. To me, the movie harkened back to a time in entertainment where those positive messages and moral tales were common place. I don't want to make any comparisons to Donner's Superman, but I think the vibe was certainly more in line with that movie than anything of recent memory. The movie certainly based its message in the morals and character of Wonder Woman herself because there's altruism, positivity, and a campy charm that almost feels rare now. It certainly hit home with me and worked overall. There were some wide brush strokes for sure and any kind of analysis will easily bare them out, but the narrative worked for me.

I thought the cast was fantastic with the exception of Gadot. Any dramatic scene tumbles down a flight of stairs with her as the focus. She does have a sense of charm about her, but some of her scenes were painful. Pedro Pascal was fantastic and Pine was chewing scenery as usual. Wigg was fun, but I wish they had included her more in the middle of the movie and built up her alt-ego a lot more.

To me the most glaring offense were some truly bad action effects. It looked like Wonder Woman had one rope-swinging animation they used for the whole movie. Not to mention any running shot of her was covered up as much as possible to avoid that awkward image.

Anyway - I'm not going to defend this against the hordes, but I enjoyed the whole movie to be quite honest. Like most superhero films of the past 5 years I have no need or want to watch this again, but it is far from the bottom of the barrel many are calling it.

[daflyboys]

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We're in a era where a lot of people can't just not like a piece of entertainment. They have to go the extra mile in portraying something as practically the worst ever. That kind of hyperbole basically poisons the discussion going forward.

Completely untrue. How do you know this? You're only basing this on what you read on people willing to post on internet sites, not the global public. Even so, if someone presents that something they've seen,in their opinion, is one of the least appealing pieces of theater put out, you just get to dismiss it because you think it's exaggerated? So people MUST find at least some entertainment value in anything produced? Let's be realistic, it's more complicated than that. Hollywood movies, like anything else, are subject to employing people like any other profession where projects completed are absolutely inane and hot trash out of the gate because, for whatever reasons, they're going to employ and fund people who aren't as skilled as others. But they get to hide under the umbrella of "well, this is art". As the viewers ... the consumers ... the people responsible for their outlandish profits, we get to give commentary/opinions based on our likes and dislikes because we decide to support them or not.

I mean, you probably buy stuff online like many and you probably check reviews in some cases, especially for big price tag items? Why? Because you want the most for your money and you want quality. You wouldn't tell people who give 1 star/negative comments about a TV or a wine bottle opener or an ice cream maker, "people can't just not like this (e.g., Spectre 720p TV). They have to go the extra mile in portraying this TV as practically the worst ever. That kind of hyperbole basically poisons the discussion going forward." Customer satisfaction is the natural outcome of something produced as sucking or not sucking.

Keeping it in the genre, I'm a huge Iron Man fan. When I.M. basically truly launched the Marvel Universe on film, it felt like a win. But then, I.M. 2 came out. Am I supposed to blindly like and enjoy IM2 because I'm simply a Marvel fanboy and more specifically an IM fanboy? No. As a consumer of the production, I get to discern. Another personal opinion example -- I think and continue to think Matthew Modine is possibly THE worst actor of any name to walk the face of the planet. However, I'll definitely hand it to him in his performance in Full Metal Jacket. Outside of this, I think he continues to be awful. I'm sure others can think of comparable examples for themselves.

[KSUowls]

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Hyperbolic reactions will always get more attention. It's why shows like Pardon the Interruption and many sports personalities are famous. I think that it's dangerous to just disregard any opinion that seems over the top though.

Dismissing a reaction because it seems extreme...all of this completely contradicts the whole point of discussions and reviews.

I haven't been singled out in this thread, but just as an example since I did post the first reaction to the movie and it was pretty extreme. In saying that I quit the movie with 45 minutes left I was certainly making a point in how much I hated it, but it was also an accurate statement. I could label it as the worst DC movie that I've ever seen as well, which from my perspective is also accurate. These statements help give context just like if someone says that they loved it and watched it multiple times already. Both examples leave an impression in someone's mind, but it's not going to prevent someone else from liking or not liking it (as is quite evident here). We all have our own opinions on movies. Not everyone has to agree with a particular take, but it starts the discussion. Also, in terms of reviews, it more appropriate to depict the level with which you liked or didn't like something because the alternative is you just end up with thumbs up and thumbs down scenarios which don't really give any context.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I think people are more commenting on the fact that its hard to have a discussion or even start one when the only impression people give or are able to put into words is "I hated it", "the worst thing ever," "I stopped watching after 30 minutes."

Other than giving your opinion it doesn't open up any conversation or lend any value to anyone. Its more an emotional response than anything. We saw the same thing happen with The Last Jedi.

[KSUowls]

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I think people are more commenting on the fact that its hard to have a discussion or even start one when the only impression people give or are able to put into words is "I hated it", "the worst thing ever," "I stopped watching after 30 minutes."

Other than giving your opinion it doesn't open up any conversation or lend any value to anyone. Its more an emotional response than anything. We saw the same thing happen with The Last Jedi.

I get what you're saying, but I think in any kind of open forum like this every single post ends up being open ended. You could say "I think that the '85 Bears are the best football team ever". You could elaborate on why that is the case, but that sentence alone would spark a discussion of people agreeing or disagreeing.

Further complicating things is the issue is the specific content we're talking about here, movies/stories. It's a very delicate business in posting anything about a movie or story early on because even something like saying "it was slow" is technically a spoiler.