Game of Thrones: Season 8 (Final season)

[SinisterAlex]

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I didn't make this connection myself, and think an 'inside the episode' could have made this clearer, was waiting for it and instead we got HBO ads.

I think stuff like this and other points during the season could've been more explained had there been more than six episodes.

[dickey1331]

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Well that was certainly unexpected


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[DamnYanks2]

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Oh man, yea CMH like Shiz say. Tear it apart.

I feel like the ending was the biggest **** you to all the fans of GOT. I was wrong.

That was absolute trash. Why? Fans could have come up with a better ending. Can't defend this ****.

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[TMagic]

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I've got nothing

CMH the floor is yours [emoji23]

[DamnYanks2]

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Well we always have memes.

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[kingkilla56]

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Why did Drogon not flame broil Jon right there?

[TMagic]

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Why did Drogon not flame broil Jon right there?

He's Targaryen. Plus it's not like he's a stranger.

Think that moment was supposed to show that Drogon knew it was "the throne" that was the issue. Not Jon.

[AUChase]

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I think I would be less disappointed if ANYONE at the end would have acknowledged that Jon Snow is Targaryen other than the dragon. If Varys was sending letters with the truth in them where did they go?

I really don't think I would have been 100% happy with anything, but I hate how disappointed and down about the ending I am. I've tried to avoid it, but damn that's really how I feel and It's not just to be cool and hate on something. This season kind of felt like an insult towards the viewer's intelligence. Oh here's some explosions and huge shock moments, please forget all of the details we have laid out in previous seasons that we are just going to toss.

I figured Dany was dying, but it was still tough to see for me because while they want you to see her as the bad person, I never really could. Then at the very end you see just how overwhelmingly happy she was right before Jon sticks her with the pointy end. She never even sat on the throne.

One thing I can say is that the acting all the way down to the end was good and the visuals were stunning. This cast owned their roles beautifully and delivered and earned millions of life-long fans.

[The Chef]

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In the end this season was pretty much terrible from start to finish due to the rush job. The finale just didn't deliver and there were so many parts that made no sense when reflecting on what happened in previous seasons....

1. Finale opens with Dany rallying her troops talking about "liberating the people around the world", is that what she thinks she did there by burning the city to the ground? I'm pretty sure she didn't liberate anyone as much as she burned them alive.

2. What was the point of spending an entire season on Arya becoming the faceless man? She used it once to kill Walter Frey unless I'm completely forgetting something. I thought for sure it would come in handy at the end, was really hopeful she was going to take on Jaime's face to get close to Cersei before stabbing her, fulfilling the prophecy that was given to Cersei at the same time. Apparently that was not the case since Cersei's death was rather anticlimactic.

3. Jon goes from "she's my queen" to suddenly killing her all because Tyrion talked him into it and Arya said she knew a killer when she saw one? Ok, I guess he's easily swayed but what really bothered me was when they were all sitting around talking about who should be king now, not a soul even mentioned Jon outside of asking where he was. Sam wouldn't be alive were it not for Jon but naturally he doesn't whisper his name. Tyrion, the very man who tried to convince Jon he was a better fit for the throne and needed to act now suddenly had time to think and based on Bran having "cool stories to share" he suddenly felt he was the better fit while all the while not mentioning Jon either. ****, not a soul even bothered to defend his actions as being necessary all because they wanted to avoid conflict with Greyworm despite the fact that the crazy bitch burned the city to the ground.

4. After Tyrion asks Bran if he would act as King he says something along the lines of "why else would I travel this far" so in other words, the man with the cool stories and can see the future knew Dany would burn the city to the ground and kill innocents but since he apparently wanted the throne all along he was more then willing to let her do it instead of stopping her. Based on that, doesn't sound like the greatest prospect for King but I digress. At the end I was almost hoping for the show to completely jump the shark and once Bran was anointed the King he would remove his face to reveal he was the Night King all along lol.

In the end they wasted so much time and energy on story lines that really never mattered.

[kingkilla56]

Game of Thrones: Season 8 (Final season)

He's Targaryen. Plus it's not like he's a stranger.

Think that moment was supposed to show that Drogon knew it was "the throne" that was the issue. Not Jon.

You really buying that?


If Drogon eats Jon alive right then, Id consider the whole season a success. Jon actually sacrificed himself for the realm he was born to rule.

But the dragon all of a sudden understands metaphor and rage burns the throne. Maybe the damn dragon should be king.

[TheShizNo1]

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I think that's a pretty reasonable explanation.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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What an ending, just wow. I like the part where Arya says "I know a killer when I see one" in reference to the dragon queen who just torched a city and hundreds of thousands of civilians. It was really up in the air whether she was a killer before Arya confirmed it. Wow wow wow.

[CMH]

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Surprisingly, I actually liked the episode. As a stand-alone, as a finale, as a way to wrap up things, I think it was handled well enough. That is, of course, with me understanding that many of the plots were never going to be resolved or even mentioned, and that this whole season was leading us to a happy sitcom-like ending where everyone gets what they wanted and things are peaceful.


I will never ever accept the Dany storyline. This, to me, is the major issue and it bleeds into why the season and overall story just didn't work.


Ugh, it frustrates me so much. And it ruins Dany's death. It makes it anti-climatic. She never even sat on the throne. She never ruled. All that so she could be stabbed in the stomach?



Let me step back a bit. Last episode, we learned that Dany has gone mad. She kills innocent people. Burns down the city. She's gone loco. I didn't like it but I had to accept it for the finale. Okay, fine. Dany is mad now. Let's see where this goes.


Dany starts speaking to Jon and she's...not mad? She's making some actual sense. "I want a good world." Yeah, that's fair. But then we get to the point that D&D really ****ed with us. "Who gets to decide what's good," Jon Snow says.


WHO THE **** GETS TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOOD?


Haha, not Dany apparently. But Tyrion does. Jon does. Sansa does. Arya does. Bran does. Apparently, everyone but Dany does get to decide what's good and they've decided that Dany's version of good isn't their version of good and so therefore, she's bad now and she needs to go. What in the actual ****?


Seriously, Benioff & Weiss were screwing with us there, right? That's the biggest f-you I've ever seen. They couldn't even see how comical that writing was when they thought of it, typed it out, handed it to the actors, directed them to say it, and then edited it. They seriously okayed Danny talking about wanting a good world and Jon Snow challenging her on who gets to decide what's good, and then killing her because he gets to decide what's good?! LOL I can't. These guys are a travesty. Good luck with Star Wars.





Also at what point does Jon Snow realize she's mad? Let's accept that Dany's comments to Jon are that of a mad woman. Apparently, she's mad for wanting a good world. Let's pause for a second. I can accept the argument that she spoke like a tyrant or dictator. But what ruler doesn't? Didn't Cersei also decide what's good? No one called her mad. No one thought she was mad. Sansa will be Queen of Winterfell. Isn't she going to decide what's good? Isn't Bran going to decide what's good? They all have their own moral compasses. Okay, so maybe the point isn't that Dany was mad. Maybe the point is that Dany is just like every other ruler before her. Except you told us she's mad and you illustrated that fact by HAVING HER KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE. What is the thought process with these writers?


So, Dany is mad and she's saying mad things. I guess? Let's roll with it. So did Jon realize she's mad because she said mad things or because of what she had done? Because those are two very different Dany's. Kill innocent people Dany torched a city and Jon was like, "She's mah queen." Dany wanting a good world and Jon is like, "Yeah, that's too much. You've gone off the deep end."


That doesn't compute. That doesn't make any sense at all.


So let's take another step back. Maybe Jon actually accepted what Tyrion had said and after watching Dany burn the city, he realizes, ****, I gotta get rid of her. Cool. That's good. I believe this is what happened. So now Dany is talking to you and she's not acting mad at all, she's actually really chill, she still loves you, she asks you to rule with her (wasn't that like our biggest complaint that she didn't consider this option and now she actually does), and she's talking about a good world and Jon decides to kill her anyway. I'm just not connecting with this. I can't get a hold of Jon's perspective here. It's all over the place.


I'm not saying that Jon killing her was wrong. He had to do it. We knew she was going to die. It just seemed like the worst possible scenario for him to make that decision. And then his comment of, "Who gets to decide what's good?" is just a huge slap on the face to us as viewers because Jon is literally making that decision in that moment.


Moving on from Dany because that storyline infuriates me like no other story or show can.




I echo the thoughts that not a single person mentioned Jon's rightful place at the throne. Like couldn't Sansa just tell Greyworm, "You know, he's actually a Targaryean so he had every right to kill Dany. He's like your king actually." And Greyworm trying to understand that concept, we were owed that performance from the actor. Instead we just got angry Greyworm. The dude was even angry when he decided he's going to Naarth. "Argh, let's just ****ing go to Naarth so I can be angry about my forever love not being there with me." Come on, guys. Give this character some depth.


Bran...I don't mind him being King. Considering the decision made that no heirs should be king and instead it's decided by a council, Bran being King is fine. It's whatever. I'm not mad about it. It still ignores the fact that he's the freaking Three-Eyed Raven. No one finds that particularly interesting? Instead, everyone is simply that simple and too focused on having someone rule them. Except for Sam and Sansa. Only brains of the lot.



I've said enough about the character assassinations of people like Brienne. At least she's in the King's Guard. Guarding what exactly? I don't know. Everything is so peaceful.


Bronn as Master of Coin actually makes a ton of sense to me. Though, what would make more sense is killing the guy. Since that's not going to happen, I guess the only way to keep his trust and loyalty is to give him what no one else can: all the money. I feel like in 15 years, someone is going to do a character study of this show and Ferris Bueller it up. Somehow Bronn will be viewed as the true protagonist because he started from nothing, stayed the course and achieved it all. Good for Bronn. Somehow a mercenary outsmarted the smartest and fiercest people in all of Westeros. Good start to your reign as Hand of the King, Tyrion.


So is Arya like a spin-off series? If not, who the hell cares about her story?

[ehh]

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The only thing I liked with the ending was Jon being sent to the Night's Watch. It makes sense.


Sansa, Bran, Arya, and others in the North knew the Night's Watch was no more, the Dothraki and Unsullied didn't. The Dothraki and Unsullied thought by sending Jon there he would rot there until his last day. That simply wasn't the case.


Since Sansa and others knew the Night's Watch was no more, they knew Jon would be free.

How could the Dothraki and Unsullied not know? They were at the Battle of Winterfell and know the White Walkers were defeated.


The entire scene with the council was absurd. What is Brienne doing up there and why does she get a vote? Why does Arya or Sam? It made no sense. It was as if the writers said, "let's take ever remaining important character and plop them onto this council. Oh, and bring back Edmure for comedic relief." Sansa claiming Northern independence, like Yara wouldn't?

The Unsullied would have executed Jon on-sight after they learned that he killed Dany, not held him prisoner until he could be brought before a council that consisted almost entirely of Jon Snow supporters.

Anyway, Jon was dumb as a rock again, how did anyone find out that he killed Dany? All he had to do was say he saw Dany fly off on Drogon, clean up her blood in the snow, and then sneak out of the city. Is he so honorable that he went to Grey Worm and confessed?

The Unsullied are the saddest lot in the world. They travel all over the world fighting for their Queen, she gets murdered on their watch, they do nothing in retaliation, then flee the city and kingdom that they just spent five years fighting to win to sail back east to island where they'll all get killed by butterflies.

[CMH]

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What an ending, just wow. I like the part where Arya says "I know a killer when I see one" in reference to the dragon queen who just torched a city and hundreds of thousands of civilians. It was really up in the air whether she was a killer before Arya confirmed it. Wow wow wow.

I had to come back to quote this because I was washing dishes and this comment came back to me and I started dying by the sink. It didn't even hit me then and I can't believe I missed how ridiculous this quote from Arya was.


And somehow that's part of what Jon needed to hear to understand.