Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin In Hot Water

[kehlis]

Re: Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin In Hot Water

Gotcha. Yeah, I don't think the high schools were involved at all. It was the college applications/test scores.

My thing is, some of these kids need to be prosecuted too. Some of them posed for fake pictures and played "dumb" so they could get labeled with a learning disability to be able to take the SAT/ACT 1:1 with a fixer. How easy is it to fake a learning disability? Kinda surprised no doctors have been indicted. One of them bragged about cheating the system.

If they knew, they should get expelled from school at the very least. If they have already graduated, the school should make that information public knowledge.

Dude "helped" 750+ families, some were legit. No telling how many of those were the cheating method.

Yeah I wonder how many of the kids knew what was going on. There are quite a few of the cases where the parents didn't want the kids to know what was going on. So I wonder if that was more common, or if it was more common that the kids knew?

I really haven't dug into it extensively at all so I'm likely very wrong but my understanding was that this children knew nothing.

They definitely didn't "pose" for any pictures though. Their faces were photo shopped on to stock pictures that this agency used to falsify their look as an athlete.


Unrelated but today when watching golf I heard that Phil Mickelson also paid for this companies services for his children but he denies making any payment (which is probably true as he wasn't indicted for doing that).

From the sounds of it, this company sold itself as being a very legit company.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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I really haven't dug into it extensively at all so I'm likely very wrong but my understanding was that this children knew nothing.

They definitely didn't "pose" for any pictures though. Their faces were photo shopped on to stock pictures that this agency used to falsify their look as an athlete.


Unrelated but today when watching golf I heard that Phil Mickelson also paid for this companies services for his children but he denies making any payment (which is probably true as he wasn't indicted for doing that).

From the sounds of it, this company sold itself as being a very legit company.

I would call taking pictures on rowing equipment posing and taking an active role in the deception.. If your high school transcript has A's in classes you haven't taken you know something fishy is going on. Or your SAT score goes up 300-400 points from your last attempt and you did nothing extra to prepare. If someone is giving you the answers on the SAT/ACT you know. Some honestly didn't know.

Sounds like Singer had a legit business, found out there was way more money to be made and went to the dark side. The fact that some of the cheaters wrote it off on their taxes is insulting.

[kehlis]

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I would call taking pictures on rowing equipment posing and taking an active role in the deception.. If your high school transcript has A's in classes you haven't taken you know something fishy is going on. Or your SAT score goes up 300-400 points from your last attempt and you did nothing extra to prepare. If someone is giving you the answers on the SAT/ACT you know. Some honestly didn't know.

Sounds like Singer had a legit business, found out there was way more money to be made and went to the dark side. The fact that some of the cheaters wrote it off on their taxes is insulting.

Well, like I said before, from the stories I read, there was no "posing" for pictures.

This company had stock photos they used and photshopped faces to them.

I very well could be wrong, but that's the way I understand it as of now.

[CMH]

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The hilarious thing is people thinking that college means a ****ing thing.

The entire thing itself is a scam.

If someone offered me hundreds of thousands of dollars to admit their worthless kid into my worthless school, I'd tell them "hey, go buy a house instead."

College might be a scam but it isn't worthless.

Maybe for rich kids but how do you expect people with less means to find jobs in companies that use college grades and a degree to even start the application process?

And you'll probably say, "I know someone that didn't go to college and makes six figures now." Good for them. Now how does their success compare to the hundreds of thousands that aren't so fortunate?

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[Jr.]

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College might be a scam but it isn't worthless.

Maybe for rich kids but how do you expect people with less means to find jobs in companies that use college grades and a degree to even start the application process?

And you'll probably say, "I know someone that didn't go to college and makes six figures now." Good for them. Now how does their success compare to the hundreds of thousands that aren't so fortunate?

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You know who else didn't go to college?

LeBron James. Tracy McGrady. Kobe Bryant.

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[Blzer]

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I'm sensing ridiculously extreme sarcasm here, but in case you're not presenting it as such... let's not make the exception, the rule.

[SmashMan]

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College might be a scam but it isn't worthless.

Maybe for rich kids but how do you expect people with less means to find jobs in companies that use college grades and a degree to even start the application process?

And you'll probably say, "I know someone that didn't go to college and makes six figures now." Good for them. Now how does their success compare to the hundreds of thousands that aren't so fortunate?

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There's been a growing attempt in some circles to vilify education in general, often led by people who both have money and attended notable schools. But that's not something to get into here so I'm just going to leave it there.

I'm sensing ridiculously extreme sarcasm here, but in case you're not presenting it as such... let's not make the exception, the rule.

It's a quote from The Office.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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And the plot thickens. Apparently, Singer had admitted to helping over 800 families over a span of 25 years.

[baconbits11]

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The income equality in this country is getting dangerously out of hand. If you have money you can pretty much coast through life, buying anything you want, not just material things but as this case proves, prestige, degrees and other influence . If you are a criminal and have more money you get off with a lesser sentence a lot more often. There is no justice for the poor. If you are rich you can buy your kids into college with no work. I'm not saying there aren't those who have worked their butt off for what they have, but there are just as many who are rich who did nothing, like people who lucked into it or inherited it.

[CMH]

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The income equality in this country is getting dangerously out of hand. If you have money you can pretty much coast through life, buying anything you want, not just material things but as this case proves, prestige, degrees and other influence . If you are a criminal and have more money you get off with a lesser sentence a lot more often. There is no justice for the poor. If you are rich you can buy your kids into college with no work. I'm not saying there aren't those who have worked their butt off for what they have, but there are just as many who are rich who did nothing, like people who lucked into it or inherited it.

This is the same thing with the Jenner kids.

I see the argument that the younger girls built their own design, clothing, perfume (whatever they have) empires and worked hard to get it so blah blah blah.

I mean, give me millions of dollars and the last name Jenner and I'm pretty sure I too can start a business that's successful. That's what people don't understand. They are already in. They don't have to do the hardest part which is have connections and a brand.

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[TheMatrix31]

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College might be a scam but it isn't worthless.

Maybe for rich kids but how do you expect people with less means to find jobs in companies that use college grades and a degree to even start the application process?

And you'll probably say, "I know someone that didn't go to college and makes six figures now." Good for them. Now how does their success compare to the hundreds of thousands that aren't so fortunate?

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College only has value if you're doing something like engineering, medical, or things of that nature. But for the vast majority? It's a racket that people get suckered into. Because the prevailing notion is that "you have to."

I went to a very prestigious university. My family doesn't have jack ****. I am now doing something completely unrelated to what I studied. And I could have done it without ever attending college.

For some, it's useful. In most cases, I don't think it is. Nor do I think that attending, say, Harvard, is indicative of anybody's intelligence or abilities.

I guess I think it's ridiculous that college degrees and grades are often determining factors in hiring. I mean, I think the whole thing should be torn down and started over but that's a whole discussion to be had.

[CMH]

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College only has value if you're doing something like engineering, medical, or things of that nature. But for the vast majority? It's a racket that people get suckered into. Because the prevailing notion is that "you have to."

I went to a very prestigious university. My family doesn't have jack ****. I am now doing something completely unrelated to what I studied. And I could have done it without ever attending college.

For some, it's useful. In most cases, I don't think it is. Nor do I think that attending, say, Harvard, is indicative of anybody's intelligence or abilities.

I guess I think it's ridiculous that college degrees and grades are often determining factors in hiring. I mean, I think the whole thing should be torn down and started over but that's a whole discussion to be had.

I don't disagree with you on most of this. I get your point.

I think for many entry level jobs you still need a degree just to get an interview. Should it be that way? Probably not. I worked for Enterprise Rent A Car for a year and a half after college. I needed a degree to apply. Did the job require a degree? No. It required someone having a brain to talk to customers and punch numbers in a computer.

But companies likely do it to shrink the application pool. Because once you're in Enterprise, they don't care about your college experience. Getting promoted is about what you know of their business. So I think you're right here that places like that should pump the brakes and not make it harder for people to get an entry level $30,000 job.

My comment was more that for now it's worth it because companies value the degree. You can't get in without it. But I agree with you that for maybe a majority of the jobs out there, a degree is a stupid limitation.


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[JayBee74]

Re: Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin In Hot Water

As a result of her plea deal, prosecutors will recommend Huffman serve four months behind bars. The outlook for Loughlin appears much bleaker. She was offered a plea that would have had her and her husband serve two years but new money laundering charges have apparently taken that off the table.

EDIT: Now I'm hearing that Loughlin and husband rejected the plea deal which might have been the catalyst for the new charges.

[ImTellinTim]

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Trying to call the Feds "bluff" is about the most ill-advised thing you can do.

[DocHolliday]

Re: Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin In Hot Water

She’s been watching too much Jussie Smollet news....This is not chicago.


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