PS3 price = less than 50,000 yen

[RoyalBoyle78]

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Count me out if either system is over $300.

well I guess your out then, cause I'm sure both systems will be over $300. I think the PS3 will be at least $449, just a lucky guess.

[CWood2]

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I completely agree with you... and that's why the price won't be too much more. Some of these comments about $500-$600 is silly.

If the base system is more than $400, I will seriously think twice. If they get me a bundle with some other accessories (2nd controller, blah blah blah) for $450 I'll bite. But they better be REALLY careful at that price point... I'm not going to easily shell out half a G for a game system that seems slightly better than the X360.

It'll be more than slightly better as soon as HD DVDs become the rage, and this "all in one" entertainment approach is what Sony is banking on. The price will be more than the 360 because it brings more to the table outside of games, which let's face it, both systems will be so good they'll almost be indiscernable for games.

There are still DVD players (top of the line ones) that cost more than the PS2 today. When Blu-Ray DVD players come out, the price will be MUCH higher than regular format DVD players, just as DVD players were far more expensive than VCRs. For me, I've never bought a system at launch. But now that I have some extra money, I can get an HD-DVD player for $100 extra bucks and get the system of my choice...you have to think value over price point here. I know there's a lot of young gamers, but for the most part, the gaming market is aging and expanding. I'd be very surprised if PS3 was over $500, mainly because the competition will set the market with their price, but I don't forsee it being less than $400.

[mgoblue]

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I don't think HD DVD's will catch on quite that quick...HD TV's have to become really commonplace first, and I don't think that's happened quite yet.

Lots of people have HDTV's, but prices are still expensive enough where 80 or 90% of people, more of your 'common' tv buyer won't have one yet. I think we're still in the early adopter phase in the general curve for acceptance of technological innovations. Below's just a general split of how things go,and i'm not convinced the early majority is in full swing yet. Because of that I tend to think that HD DVD's aren't as close to mass popularity as one might initially think.

the first 2.5% of the adopters are the "innovators"

the next 13.5% of the adopters are the "early adopters"

the next 34% of the adopters are the "early majority"

the next 34% of the adopters are the "late majority"

the last 16% of the adopters are the "laggards"

[CWood2]

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I don't think HD DVD's will catch on quite that quick...HD TV's have to become really commonplace first, and I don't think that's happened quite yet.

Lots of people have HDTV's, but prices are still expensive enough where 80 or 90% of people, more of your 'common' tv buyer won't have one yet. I think we're still in the early adopter phase in the general curve for acceptance of technological innovations. Below's just a general split of how things go,and i'm not convinced the early majority is in full swing yet. Because of that I tend to think that HD DVD's aren't as close to mass popularity as one might initially think.

the first 2.5% of the adopters are the "innovators"

the next 13.5% of the adopters are the "early adopters"

the next 34% of the adopters are the "early majority"

the next 34% of the adopters are the "late majority"

the last 16% of the adopters are the "laggards"

I love that you broke out business cycle terms, makes me feel like I'm back in college...which is where I want to be right now! You make a good point, and gave me another idea. If the PS3 is priced somewhat moderately to compete with XBox 360, I really think the innovators could get a bargain (if they already own an HDTV) if they're looking for high def movies to go along with their games. And chances are the innovators already have an HDTV. You can't charge gamers what it would cost to buy a next-gen console and a blue ray dvd player individually. And you're right, blue ray will take some time since the TV is needed, VCRs didn't need a medium to adopt them first. For me, anything $500 or under will probably be coming home with me because of my perceived value. Again, no rent, minimal bills, I know everyone's different...but that's my perspective.

[mgoblue]

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I love that you broke out business cycle terms, makes me feel like I'm back in college...which is where I want to be right now! You make a good point, and gave me another idea. If the PS3 is priced somewhat moderately to compete with XBox 360, I really think the innovators could get a bargain (if they already own an HDTV) if they're looking for high def movies to go along with their games. And chances are the innovators already have an HDTV. You can't charge gamers what it would cost to buy a next-gen console and a blue ray dvd player individually. And you're right, blue ray will take some time since the TV is needed, VCRs didn't need a medium to adopt them first. For me, anything $500 or under will probably be coming home with me because of my perceived value. Again, no rent, minimal bills, I know everyone's different...but that's my perspective.

definitely a great deal...just thought I'd point that out, I mean I don't even have a HDTV right now, and I could afford one of some sort if I wanted. Just all the nicer ones are still pretty darn expensive, and I didn't want to settle for something not as nice. Prices have come down a lot the past year or two, so i can see in the next year or two I'll have one...I just know it'll be 5-10 years before your average tv watcher, your aunt, friend at work, etc all have HDTV's...

That business cycle is interesting, had to read a book on it for a Technology project class in college, i learned a lot there about how products develop, and the best way to market them.

[Graphik]

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All I gotta say is: I'm glad I'm not under 21. I feel sorry for the kids who are gonna want one of these and be rejected by they're parents when they find out how much all this stuff is worth. Then you gotta consider the kid wanting a game to go along with it.....it just aint happening.

[CWood2]

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definitely a great deal...just thought I'd point that out, I mean I don't even have a HDTV right now, and I could afford one of some sort if I wanted. Just all the nicer ones are still pretty darn expensive, and I didn't want to settle for something not as nice. Prices have come down a lot the past year or two, so i can see in the next year or two I'll have one...I just know it'll be 5-10 years before your average tv watcher, your aunt, friend at work, etc all have HDTV's...

That business cycle is interesting, had to read a book on it for a Technology project class in college, i learned a lot there about how products develop, and the best way to market them.

I'm waiting on the HDTV also, mainly because I want the Sony XBR tube set and would rather have the money to waste than to finance it, with or without interest. I'm sure if I don't have it before Christmas, it'll be in my room before Spring 06.

I went to school to get my bachelors of science in marketing so I'm all about that stuff as well. It would make for an interesting OS survey question to see which category people view themselves in. I'd love to be an early adopter, but the finances seem to hold me back!

[mgoblue]

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All I gotta say is: I'm glad I'm not under 21. I feel sorry for the kids who are gonna want one of these and be rejected by they're parents when they find out how much all this stuff is worth. Then you gotta consider the kid wanting a game to go along with it.....it just aint happening.

exactly...the market for gamers must be older like was mentioned in a thread a while ago...your average mom or dad won't be kicking out 500 bucks for a new system (at least I know mine wouldn't have as a kid)...at least not right away.

[bsbllstr876]

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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615745p1.html

Which translates to about $465 US and $588 Canadian (taxes not included).

I can't say the price shocks me although that's a lot for a home console.

I wonder what's the ballpark figure for 360? I imagine it's going to be close to the PS3.

damn, looks like i won't have PS3 until about 2008-09. no chance in hell i'm paying that much for a console.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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I don't think HD DVD's will catch on quite that quick...HD TV's have to become really commonplace first, and I don't think that's happened quite yet.

I wonder how many households in NA have HDTV's right now.

I would guess the figure is around 10%. I think it will be at least 3 more years before more than 50% of households have HDTV's.

[tripwire]

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Don't forget that good ole Sony will probably launch without the HDD included. Get your wallets ready.

[nbasuperstar40]

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Xbox 360 will come in cheaper than that. That blu-ray drive is expensive. I would be suprise, if the PS3 launches at that price though. Seriously it's mass market suicide. Anylists predicted correctly, if it ends up being true, they said $400-$500.

No console priced over $350 has succeeded.

I thought the Saturn was $350 or $400 with the PSX.

[nbasuperstar40]

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I think it will be $500 to $600 dollars, heck the PSP was $300.

[nbasuperstar40]

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There's no way I would consider that kind of investment. If Sony thinks they are going to sell their system for over $100 more than the Xbox 360, they're going to get killed. Killed. I'm sure there will still be 20-35 year old men who will drop down the money for it, but they can forget about anyone under 18. No parent is paying that kind of money for their kid's videogaming.

True talk, I'm sure the videogame heads and HD TV nuts will spend for this system, but not the parent of kids under 15, I can't imagine my parents buying me an $500 system when I was younger. I would probably go to a friend who had it and play there system.

[nbasuperstar40]

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Exactly my point.

Sony wouldn't do that; it's just too stupid.

Sony would do it, there's alot more videogame "adult" heads in 2005 then there where in 1996, Sony could sell 6.2 million to it's older gamers yet probably would sell 100,000 thousand to it younger geared gamers, and it would still be some good sales, not great but the future is what there at. And if the kids who have more weathyer parents are smart, they'll tell there parents that the PS3 was HD-DVD player which is like I-MAX theater. Parents who care about that stuff would be instrested and might buy the system. But as for general public they'll probably have to wait a year or two for the PS3.
But Sony and Sega price tag was died-high when the PSX and Saturn came out.