2nd shipment..is around

[thegreatone0381]

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So where are all those people who, after launch, kept on saying how everyone's going to laugh at themselves after shelves were full with 360s a couple weeks later . . . haven't seen many of those posts in a while.

That is a great question.

[fsquid]

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That is a great question.

I said I was wrong about 2 weeks ago, where were you?

[thegreatone0381]

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I said I was wrong about 2 weeks ago, where were you?

Probably playing my 360. But I don't think you were the only one saying that.

[Altimus]

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Well I just called my Game Stop and the guy said they are expecting shipments to come in every week starting next week. But only as the above post above me stated, 2 or 3 at a time.

[Dealin Rams]

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Well I just called my Game Stop and the guy said they are expecting shipments to come in every week starting next week. But only as the above post above me stated, 2 or 3 at a time.

Yeah, pretty ridiculous. Just doing the math quickly, I pre-ordered in June...and if my Gamestop even gets 2-3 a week, then I'm looking at 12 weeks before I get mine.

If nothing else, I think the lesson here for future console releases, anyway, is that if you can't be one of the first 15 to pre-order at your local specialty store, don't even bother.

[Rules]

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Yeah, pretty ridiculous. Just doing the math quickly, I pre-ordered in June...and if my Gamestop even gets 2-3 a week, then I'm looking at 12 weeks before I get mine.

If nothing else, I think the lesson here for future console releases, anyway, is that if you can't be one of the first 15 to pre-order at your local specialty store, don't even bother.

Actually the lesson here is no store can guarantee you anything. Microsoft botched this launch. Should have gone US first then Europe then Japan instead of a world wide launch. Go with the countries first who give the most support and then worry about Japan last as they don't care.

[luv_mist]

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Actually the lesson here is no store can guarantee you anything. Microsoft botched this launch. Should have gone US first then Europe then Japan instead of a world wide launch. Go with the countries first who give the most support and then worry about Japan last as they don't care.

Exactly what I'm talking about. They would have definitely got a lot more games and systems out much and made a heck of a lot of profit from it too. They are sure causing a lot of demand for their system but a lot of people are losing their interest in the system. Just too much of a hassle. Honestly, if they would have went U.S, then U.K. a monther or two later, they would have had more games out and more systems to pop onto the selves. Hopefully a lot of those employees don't buy up the systems if that's one of the drought causes. I'm losing my liking for the system.......

[CMH]

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What honestly makes us so special?

Microsoft has the right to launch the system in select countries if it chooses to.

Why does the UK and Japan have to suffer because we're greedy and want our consoles?

[Rules]

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What honestly makes us so special?

Microsoft has the right to launch the system in select countries if it chooses to.

Why does the UK and Japan have to suffer because we're greedy and want our consoles?

Lol, isn't that what Japanese companies do to us??? Did Japan support the Xbox? Microsoft would have made more money by selling to those who are interested. World wide launch by Microsoft was stupid.

[Rules]

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Lol, isn't that what Japanese companies do to us??? Did Japan support the Xbox? Microsoft would have made more money by selling to those who are interested. World wide launch by Microsoft was stupid.

For your reading pleasure:

Japan Analysts Cold Shoulder Xbox 360
By Colin Campbell

On the eve of Xbox 360's Japanese launch, leading analysts in the country are all but writing off Microsoft's chances of seriously challenging Sony, or even of launching a successful platform.

Nobuyuki Kawamata of Tokai Tokyo Research Center said, "No one -- consumers or software makers -- has been talking about the Xbox 360 lately, although we only have a couple of days before the release. Given also the fact that basic functions of Xbox 360 are inferior to Sony's next-generation machine, and that there are not many newly-developed titles ready for the Japanese launch, Xbox 360 is not likely to become a must-buy console here in Japan."

Hirotoshi Murakami at Mitsubishi UFJ Securities said, "We had previously thought that Xbox 360 could gain a major share of the Japanese market by taking some market share from front-runner Sony Computer. But we now think that such a prospect may not be realized, given the limited attractiveness of its titles and its lukewarm functions."

Shinko Securities analyst Yuichi Kobayashi said, "Given declining enthusiasm for the Xbox 360 by Japanese players and software makers, it would be almost impossible for Microsoft to overtake Sony or even Nintendo. Even from the global viewpoint, unless Sony fails to bring the next-generation PlayStation 3 consoles to the market on time, Microsoft appears to have almost no chance to be the industry leader."


Now let's send all of our Xbox 360's over to Japan so they can turn around and sell them back to us marked up on Ebay!

[CMH]

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I understand that Japanese developers do the same here, but the comments, "Why did they have to get them when I'm here in the U.S. without one" is pretty childish.

Microsoft has every right to release worldwide, just as Japanese developers have every right to not even ship a game to us.

Either way, it doesn't matter. It's the company decision. If 360 wasn't released in Japan then you'd have Japanese kids upset that Microsoft didn't run a worldwide launch.

[Rules]

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I understand that Japanese developers do the same here, but the comments, "Why did they have to get them when I'm here in the U.S. without one" is pretty childish.

Microsoft has every right to release worldwide, just as Japanese developers have every right to not even ship a game to us.

Either way, it doesn't matter. It's the company decision. If 360 wasn't released in Japan then you'd have Japanese kids upset that Microsoft didn't run a worldwide launch.

My point is that every company that has released a console system has always followed this schedule:

1) Japan
2) Europe
3) US

So why did Microsoft decide to change that when those overseas were not expecting to see their systems until 6 months later? Sony is going to release PS3 probably this Spring and then release it here in the US in the Fall. That is to be expected. Microsoft thinks they will gain a foot hold in Japan before Sony releases PS3. Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out that Sony is going to win the console battle once again. Microsoft doesn't know how to market themselves nor do they have the support that Sony has earned over the last decade!

[luv_mist]

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If 360 wasn't released in Japan then you'd have Japanese kids upset that Microsoft didn't run a worldwide launch.

I'm pretty sure they'll kill that anger with a brand new PS3 though. XBOX 360 has to learn how to come with the stuff that interests them over there. Not to mention, didn't Sony higher an American to head their company? The 360 would have done so much better just holding a strong footing in the UK and USA and then worrying about Japan and surrounding areas much later. I won't say that the 360 won't make as big a splash as the PS3, but the PS3 already has a fanbase before the finals are even out. People are already talking about selling their 360 on ebay after the PS3 comes out who are over here. What you think they're going to be doing over there? Saving up those paychecks like old boy said. It'll be work those "extra hours" of work....

[JRod]

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Rules,

Well you can't see it from their side. It's a toss up who's going to win the the Europe and US console war. When the xbox was launched there was no way that MS could match or excel Sony. The PS2 had a strong launch and continued sales that is was too far in front and established.

Fast forward to now. Let's say the Xbox marketshare is 15% in Japan and 30% in Europe. If you launched now and were able to increase the numbers to 30% in Japan and 50% in Europe wouldn't you take them?

Are they losing sales in the US. It looks like the demand for the 360 is still very high. Couple that with the fact that the 360 is turning into the Ipod. Cool to have, cool to look at, and well designed. That's what the Ipod did to gain dominance in the US market. I think MS knows Sony will have to do something incredible to beat what the 360 has set. But by the time that comes around, they would have gained incredible market share.

Other than maybe have too few consoles available and distribution issues, MS is pulling off a coup in the sports world. And it's doing so by beating Sony where it matters at the gamer level. They set-up a great infrastructure so far.

If they are able to get a million units out by the end of december and another 500,000 by the end of January, they would have done a great job in my book.

The problem is patience. I'm enjoying my Xbox and $400 isn't small change to throw down on something that no one really needs.

[Rules]

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Jrod~ I agree with what you are saying but I think MS is fighting a lost cause in Japan as they continue to speak out against buying it. If MS could build a huge base in the US and Europe right now, they could hold onto the market share longer and putting pressure on Sony to catch up. Sony will surpass Microsoft's Japanese base in one day once the PS3 is released. However, where Microsoft is failing, they are also succeeding in my book.

Failing:
1) Being unable to quickly meet the demand in the US and in Europe will turn many gamers off. Many will opt to get something else this holiday season and this is where Microsoft could have blanketed the market with 360 systems.

Succeeding:
2) Xbox Live~ Sony doesn't stand a chance as Microsoft has been brilliant on this front. Their established base is getting stronger and stronger! With the inclusion of Xbox Live Market, gamers will now have more creativity and options than ever before.

There is a high demand for the Xbox 360 but how long before the hype and frustration set in for consumers who really wanted to get one for a friend, family member, or themselves? My take on this whole launch is the US and Europe are Microsoft's bread and butter. Short supplying those who would have bought it versus going after a small share in Japan is a mistake. Microsoft lost the console war in Japan big time during the Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2 battle. Why devote more money, systems, and time into an area that repeatedly has no interest in their company, games, or system?