Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

[Kashanova]

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Sony = Cares 10000% about the money

[Vince]

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Sony = Cares 10000% about the money

And how is that different than M$???

[cjonesfan921]

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And how is that different than M$???

Or any company, big business or small stores? They all want the money. MS is getting money from Xbox Live subscriptions, Sony as of now actually playing online is free. OMG MS CARES ABOUT THE MONEY??????????

[Stormyhog]

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The bottom line is Sony dominates in Japan so the war is already over it doesn't matter what the others do or what people say because the people will wait for a PS3 no matter how long it takes to get one because the 360 in Japan is non existent and if you don't have Japan it's game over when trying to be number one overall. I think most people in North America will wait as well especially the majority that own a PS2 which is a hell of alot.

[roadman]

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The bottom line is Sony dominates in Japan so the war is already over it doesn't matter what the others do or what people say because the people will wait for a PS3 no matter how long it takes to get one because the 360 in Japan is non existent and if you don't have Japan it's game over when trying to be number one overall. I think most people in North America will wait as well especially the majority that own a PS2 which is a hell of alot.

I would agree with most of this, but over $700 for a game and controllers will make some parents go for the Wii and M$ at Christmas time. I think the pricepoint of the PS3 and the prices of the other 2 will cut into some of Sony's market.

[Flawless]

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The bottom line is Sony dominates in Japan so the war is already over it doesn't matter what the others do or what people say because the people will wait for a PS3 no matter how long it takes to get one because the 360 in Japan is non existent and if you don't have Japan it's game over when trying to be number one overall. I think most people in North America will wait as well especially the majority that own a PS2 which is a hell of alot.

You're seriously underestimating the Nintendo.

[HMcCoy]

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The bottom line is Sony dominates in Japan so the war is already over it doesn't matter what the others do or what people say because the people will wait for a PS3 no matter how long it takes to get one because the 360 in Japan is non existent and if you don't have Japan it's game over when trying to be number one overall. I think most people in North America will wait as well especially the majority that own a PS2 which is a hell of alot.

The DS lite, a far less pwerful unit which outsells the PSP...like 700 to 1 says hello.

Also, nearly every poll and survey of Japanese gamers shows they are dissaponted by the PS3 pricing and, and more interested in the WII. MS struggles in Japan don't automatically equal a win for Sony...

edit: Flawless beat me to it.

Also, anyone who thinks Sony spent the time, effort and MONEY to develop technology just for sh!ts and giggles is being naive. Pre-ownned games are a huge staple of game retailer profits. The margin on a proenwed game is much better than on a new one, so I'm really curious as to how the retailers see this. Sony could potentially be taking a nice bite out of their bottom line. Not to mention the fact that this would seem to eliminate rentals...

[Stormyhog]

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I would agree with most of this, but over $700 for a game and controllers will make some parents go for the Wii and M$ at Christmas time. I think the pricepoint of the PS3 and the prices of the other 2 will cut into some of Sony's market.

I agree but not enough to do any real damage especially the Wii as the average gamer is 25 to 30 and higher. Personally I don't really care who is number one I just like games in general no matter what system they are on, just get what you like and have fun and don't let the media sway your decisions as they usually have an agenda anyway.

[roadman]

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I agree but not enough to do any real damage especially the Wii as the average gamer is 25 to 30 and higher. Personally I don't really care who is number one I just like games in general no matter what system they are on, just get what you like and have fun and don't let the media sway your decisions as they usually have an agenda anyway.

Yep, I'm not swayed by the media, but I am swayed by family budgets. Once my accountant wife heard $700 for the PS3, she directed our energies to MS.

Personally, I wouldn't underestimate the Wii, either. I know it's not really considered next gen, but the price is hard to pass up. I don't care who is number 1, either. Just make a quality product with quality games.

[Stormyhog]

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The DS lite, a far less pwerful unit which outsells the PSP...like 700 to 1 says hello.

Also, nearly every poll and survey of Japanese gamers shows they are dissaponted by the PS3 pricing and, and more interested in the WII. MS struggles in Japan don't automatically equal a win for Sony...

If you were to go by polls and surveys then why did Bush win the last Presidental Election. To me they are worthless and can be easily manipulated by whoever is doing them to make one side look more favourable from the other. As for the DS Lite that is Nintendo's area just like consoles are Sony's.

[cjonesfan921]

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Yep, I'm not swayed by the media, but I am swayed by family budgets. Once my accountant wife heard $700 for the PS3, she directed our energies to MS.

Personally, I wouldn't underestimate the Wii, either. I know it's not really considered next gen, but the price is hard to pass up. I don't care who is number 1, either. Just make a quality product with quality games.

Xbox 360 is an expensive system also. The thing the MS did right was they offered a stripped down version, even the Premium is stripped down when you consider what the PS3 is shipping with. BluRay comes built in, whether you like it or not Sony wants you to have it so, if in the long run it is a big hit, you got one on your PS3. I bought the 360 though becuase I don't care for BluRay, Wifi, 60GB HD, right now. In the long run to get the 360 to do the same as the PS3 meaning HD-DVD and Wireless adaptor, and if they do come out with a bigger HD, will cost more then the PS3. I think the cost, to those who look at i t in the long run and do their research, is irrelevant. I do agree though most parents who buy their kids a system will get the 360 because of the price and not knowing the difference and what not.

[HMcCoy]

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If you were to go by polls and surveys then why did Bush win the last Presidental Election. To me they are worthless and can be easily manipulated by whoever is doing them to make one side look more favourable from the other. As for the DS Lite that is Nintendo's area just like consoles are Sony's.

Lol...Good point, polls are pretty unreliable. I'd still bet that Sony's mindshare will be nowhere near what it is today, though. Nintendo will be a significant factor in Japan, and MS will continue to grow here. Problem for Sony is that they can't afford to NOT to totally dominate again...the front end expenses for the PS3 hardware development is gonna' be murder on a company already having financial problems.

[Stormyhog]

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Lol...Good point, polls are pretty unreliable. I'd still bet that Sony's mindshare will be nowhere near what it is today, though. Nintendo will be a significant factor in Japan, and MS will continue to grow here. Problem for Sony is that they can't afford to NOT to totally dominate again...the front end expenses for the PS3 hardware development is gonna' be murder on a company already having financial problems.

I agree as Sony will take sometime to recoup their losses. They better hope that Blue- Ray flies or it's going to even more painful.

[CaptainZombie]

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Xbox 360 is an expensive system also. The thing the MS did right was they offered a stripped down version, even the Premium is stripped down when you consider what the PS3 is shipping with. BluRay comes built in, whether you like it or not Sony wants you to have it so, if in the long run it is a big hit, you got one on your PS3. I bought the 360 though becuase I don't care for BluRay, Wifi, 60GB HD, right now. In the long run to get the 360 to do the same as the PS3 meaning HD-DVD and Wireless adaptor, and if they do come out with a bigger HD, will cost more then the PS3. I think the cost, to those who look at i t in the long run and do their research, is irrelevant. I do agree though most parents who buy their kids a system will get the 360 because of the price and not knowing the difference and what not.

I'm very happy with MS releasing a videogame system first with multimedia features as second that they are building on with every Fall/Spring Dashboard Update. CJ, you make a good point that if we want the 360 to battle the PS3 feature for feature, that the 360 would be more expensive if you want WiFi and HD-DVD. WiFi Adap is $100 and the HD-DVD could be $200-$300, so say you bought the Premium 360, you could be spending close to $800 to have the same feature set as a $600 Ps3. At this point I don't care for WiFi since my basement, I have hardwired with CAT5. If I move my 360 from my TV in my office to the TV in the living room in the basement, I'm hardwired.

I like that MS has given us options, SONY is forcing people into their features. Why? So when they sell MILLIONS of PS3's, they can turn around and say that they have MILLIONS more BluRay users out there. It's all a ploy to market the damn BluRay.

I'm happy with my 360, if a larger HDD releases at a affordable price I'll get it. Even the 20gb are fine so far since I delete demos to clear up the HDD. Would I like a PS3, yes I would, but I don't want to pay $600 at this time in the fall. If I can get my hands on one come this Fall, it's going straight to ebay to make some money.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Just because they have a patent on it doesn't mean it will be used. There was a lot of speculation about the PS3 ending used game sales as we knew it which didn't come to light so I wouldn't worry about something like this at the moment.

I wouldn't put it pass Sony 1 bit. Especially if Blu-Ray begins to fail...