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  • inkcil
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    • Jul 2002
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    #16
    Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

    Forgive me if I'm wrong, Gilateen, but for some reason you have a knack for finding my posts and then using some of the most creative/condescending/over-assuming/silliest ways to say that you don't agree.

    I am upset b/c I don't have a 360? Man, what grade are you in?

    I am talking about MS (not) supporting it's current gen product - don't act like there's something wrong with me for wanting them to do that.

    The "to be honest statement" was just saying that once I move on to a next-gen system, what is going on w/ current gen systems won't impact me as much, although I still reserve the right to have an opinion about it.

    You're right about one thing, I am choosing to wait. But why am I "gonna pay." You act like this is a Dirty Harry movie where you're the cop and I'm the robber. Lighten up.
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    • born_bad
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      • Jan 2005
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      #17
      Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

      Now that the 360 is out, why would they (or anyone at this point) consider the Xbox "current gen" ? For MS, and everyone that owns one, the 360 = current gen. The thing has been out for 5 months already. When are you going to consider the 360 "current," when it has been for 2 years? The orignal Xbox = last gen.

      Just because you haven't moved on to the 360 doesn't mean the Xbox is still "current gen." That system is 6 years old now. There's a huge catalog of games for you to play and could have been playing over the last 6 years.

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      • ExtremeGamer
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        • Jul 2002
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        #18
        Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

        Originally posted by born_bad
        Now that the 360 is out, why would they (or anyone at this point) consider the Xbox "current gen" ? For MS, and everyone that owns one, the 360 = current gen. The thing has been out for 5 months already. When are you going to consider the 360 "current," when it has been for 2 years? The orignal Xbox = last gen.

        Just because you haven't moved on to the 360 doesn't mean the Xbox is still "current gen." That system is 6 years old now. There's a huge catalog of games for you to play and could have been playing over the last 6 years.
        The Xbox will be 5 in November, it's not that old. The PS2 is 6 years old.

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        • Graphik
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          • Oct 2002
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          #19
          Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

          Its just Microsoft's way of forcing you to buy a 360 instead of waiting for the PS3 to come out to make your choice.
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          • Thrasha
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            • Nov 2004
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            #20
            Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

            Originally posted by HMcCoy
            MS 1st party is and has always been weak overall. For every PGR, KOTOR, Ninja Gaiden and Halo there is a Brute Force, Blinx, Bruce Lee and Tao Feng. MS realizes this, and Moore has mentioned that MS is going to be much more selective with their 1st party products. Xbox owners won't be missing that much, IMO.

            And 3rd parties are not going to abandon a system with millions of installed users, and cheap dev costs. They'll continue to toss ports of the major titles out there. As it's been said, Sony has always had far more titles...full Japanese dev support will tend to do that.

            That's sort of why I have been biding my time for the PS3. I am trying hard not to start sipping the 360 kool aid. But it's hard.
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            • inkcil
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              • Jul 2002
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              #21
              Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

              Originally posted by born_bad
              Now that the 360 is out, why would they (or anyone at this point) consider the Xbox "current gen" ? For MS, and everyone that owns one, the 360 = current gen. The thing has been out for 5 months already. When are you going to consider the 360 "current," when it has been for 2 years? The orignal Xbox = last gen.

              Just because you haven't moved on to the 360 doesn't mean the Xbox is still "current gen." That system is 6 years old now. There's a huge catalog of games for you to play and could have been playing over the last 6 years.
              For better or worse, I support my logic for considering Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube current gen through a simple mathematic tool - ratios. If only 1 of the 3 major players have introduced their new system, then I am considering the 1 new system in the minority, and thus I label the "state of gaming" according to the majority. It's just the way I've chose to see it, which means you don't have to see it that way and guess what - that's OK too.

              Besides that, many mags and websites are still calling the 360 "next-gen" gaming. So don't blame it all on me.

              And why is it about "just b/c I haven't moved to the 360." What if I never get a 360? Does that mean I won't be able to experience next gen gaming?
              And the xbox is not 6 years old.

              Geez guys, stop taking this so personal, as if MS has hired you to be its OS defense lawyers.
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              • inkcil
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                • Jul 2002
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                #22
                Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)



                This link to a story on the same subject - I'm not the only one w/ a raised eyebrow on how MS is handling its Xbox affairs nowadays.
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                • Misfit
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #23
                  Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                  Microsoft is putting all of their eggs into the 360 basket. When all is said and done they will have had a year's headstart on the PS3 and Revolution (if you want to include Nintendo in the upcoming "Console Wars") and they need to make the most of it. So far, they've kind of botched their head start by not having consoles available. Microsoft has near limitless resources, but they only allocate so much to their videogame division and what's there is probably being put to use with the 360. And as someone pointed out, if they're not supporting the Xbox they probably hope those consumers will go out and buy a system they are supporting. Is it right? If you consider yourself a Microsoft die-hard who hasn't been able to get a 360 yet you probably will feel cheated, but if you have a 360 you likely won't care (or if you don't have either system). From a realistic point of view, the Xbox has never made any money for Microsoft so they're smart to just cease production. They may irritate some gamers but their die-hard fans probably already have a 360. As someone who hasn't committed any money to either the 360 or PS3, it doesn't mean much to me. I'm more concerned with their console's shortcomings and how the PS3 turns out than with anything else.

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                  • luv_mist
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                    • May 2004
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                    #24
                    Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                    Originally posted by inkcil
                    http://xbox.ign.com/articles/698/698717p1.html

                    This link to a story on the same subject - I'm not the only one w/ a raised eyebrow on how MS is handling its Xbox affairs nowadays.
                    That story really was something nice to read. Good looking out. If the XBOX is revived, that would be so sweet on the real. To have games on both systems would be the greatest thing on the real. By the way, are all the games for the PS2 still the regular $49.99??

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                    • inkcil
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #25
                      Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                      Originally posted by luv_mist
                      That story really was something nice to read. Good looking out. If the XBOX is revived, that would be so sweet on the real. To have games on both systems would be the greatest thing on the real. By the way, are all the games for the PS2 still the regular $49.99??
                      For the most part, the games are now $39.99 when they first drop.
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                      • inkcil
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                        #26
                        Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                        Originally posted by Misfit
                        Microsoft is putting all of their eggs into the 360 basket. When all is said and done they will have had a year's headstart on the PS3 and Revolution (if you want to include Nintendo in the upcoming "Console Wars") and they need to make the most of it. So far, they've kind of botched their head start by not having consoles available. Microsoft has near limitless resources, but they only allocate so much to their videogame division and what's there is probably being put to use with the 360. And as someone pointed out, if they're not supporting the Xbox they probably hope those consumers will go out and buy a system they are supporting. Is it right? If you consider yourself a Microsoft die-hard who hasn't been able to get a 360 yet you probably will feel cheated, but if you have a 360 you likely won't care (or if you don't have either system). From a realistic point of view, the Xbox has never made any money for Microsoft so they're smart to just cease production. They may irritate some gamers but their die-hard fans probably already have a 360. As someone who hasn't committed any money to either the 360 or PS3, it doesn't mean much to me. I'm more concerned with their console's shortcomings and how the PS3 turns out than with anything else.
                        You make some good points. But I want to make it clear that I am not a MS or Sony fan, just a fan of a having a good console w/ good games. Period.

                        I haven't put any money into next gen consoles either, but b/c the Xbox is my only gaming console, and b/c they are cutting Xbox off at the knees, it affects me.

                        Are you an Xbox only gamer at this point? B/c if not, then no, this thread probably won't make much sense to you. If I had a PS2 (which I'll probably get soon),then I wouldn't have even started this thread. But the point is, it sucks that I have to get a PS2 just to fulfill my current-gen gaming needs (since MS has abandoned the Xbox).
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                        • Misfit
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                          • Mar 2003
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                          #27
                          Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                          I said I agree with you in that you should feel let down. I just stated that I understood why Microsoft has chosen to do what they have done while also throwing in that, as a consumer who has not committed to any of the next-gen consoles, their mistreatment of their fanbase does not affect my purchasing decision.

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                          • inkcil
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                            #28
                            Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                            Originally posted by Misfit
                            I said I agree with you in that you should feel let down. I just stated that I understood why Microsoft has chosen to do what they have done while also throwing in that, as a consumer who has not committed to any of the next-gen consoles, their mistreatment of their fanbase does not affect my purchasing decision.
                            I didn't mean for my earlier reply to come off as defensive. Sorry about that...I did understand what you were telling me. Sometimes when you write things they take on a tone of their own.
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                            • Gilateen
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #29
                              Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                              Modding is what killed Xbox1.

                              MS has no security on the 1st console, people are still able to rent/Gamefly games and burn them to the HD, why support that?

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                              • Peter_OS
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #30
                                Re: Microsoft "Abandonment" of Xbox is Downright Shameful (IMO)

                                Well how about the arguement on modified PS2's? If your statement stays true, then it should be the same for the PS2.

                                And on the arguement of "Abondonment" as noted by the topic, you want to drive your new product and use most of your resources to do so from a business perspective. Unfortunately something has to take a hit in the process.
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