ps3 not so pricey after all

[bkrich83]

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If I was just buying it to play games, yes, it would be a lot of cash..But I'm also buying it to play BR discs..Stand alone players cost a grand..The PS3 is saving me 400.00.. I don't like the fact that Sony is 'forcing' us to support their new format..But in the end it doesn't bother me personally cause I'm saving money.. Watching movies in HD is overrated? That is an ignorant comment..Complaining won't make the price go down..Just wait 5 yrs until it's 99.00..

I find it to be too expensive. Save the I am not tech savvy enough or ignorant.

Spending upwards of 800 dollars to buy a player/console for a format that may or may not be around in a few years is what some people might call ignorant.

This will be the first time I haven't bought a console at launch since before the PSX. But Sony's pricing and strategy have kept me from being an early adopter this time.

[HMcCoy]

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Unless blu-ray goes the way of every other Sony backed media format.

I don't see the logic of buying a PS3 specifically for blu-ray. Especially when looking at Sony's track record when pushing their proprietary format as an industry standard.

Not to mention stand alone BR players won't be a grand for very long.

The really scary part is that Sony is on shaky financial ground and they've literally put all their eggs in this basket. It's doubtful, but if the PS3 fails totally...Sony and BlueRay is doomed.

[DXZeke]

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The PS3 for 600.00 is worth it over the 400.00 360 for the blue ray player alone..The 360 would cost just as much if they added the HD Drive before launch..

It is worth the price "IF" someone has an HDTV or one that Supports 1080p.
For the next couple years it won't be justifiable to spend the money since the majority don't have either right now, literally, just a select few.

It's going to be a nice system, but it's got to many high end gadgets a year or two before the mass public can take advantage of them.... the same thing can be said for the XBox 360. HDTV is great, but not many of us have it. The blue ray player is important to like maybe 15-20 of us on this board RIGHT NOW! Those that will want to have HD Movies, that's great, but how many that want that capability really have it now? Not many.

[SoMiss2000]

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The PS3 for 600.00 is worth it over the 400.00 360 for the blue ray player alone..The 360 would cost just as much if they added the HD Drive before launch..

Who's model makes more sense, MS or Sony. MS doesn't force the new technology on you, thus, driving up the price of their product. They make it an optional add-on. Sony, on the other hand leaves the tech out of their core system, while taking away other features.

[SoMiss2000]

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Stand alone players cost a grand

a year after the stand alone players come out, they won't cost a grand.

[Bacardi151]

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I definitely don't like the fact the market is being used to pimp proprietary formats. I buy game consoles to play games; having to pay for a not-yet-proven technology is not something i will do. I am not an early adapter, and shouldnt be used by a company hoping to cash in on the next big media format war.

You don't have to look any further than UMD and how that has panned out for sony in the last couple of years regarding their media format penetration. How about making a ps3 without a blue ray drive? that way I can pay ~200 bucks less and still get it to...you know...play games on it? Let the blue ray fight its battle against hd-dvd someplace else. Stop trying to take over the 'home theater' and freakin focus on games. Maybe less crap would come out. For all the flack Nintendo gets, one thing you have to give them is that their first party titles are exceptional.

but what the hell do i know. i don't even own an hdtv yet. I was a bit upset when trying to play GRAW with my new 360 on a regular lcd tv and i couldnt read the text. Thankfully, i could connect it the pc monitor, else i probably would have taken it back. Have friends who own an hdtv, and still havent found a justifiable reason to replace my current big screen tv other than specific hd channels looks a little nicer.

[Rodster]

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I definitely don't like the fact the market is being used to pimp proprietary formats. I buy game consoles to play games; having to pay for a not-yet-proven technology is not something i will do. I am not an early adapter, and shouldnt be used by a company hoping to cash in on the next big media format war.

You don't have to look any further than UMD and how that has panned out for sony in the last couple of years regarding their media format penetration. How about making a ps3 without a blue ray drive? that way I can pay ~200 bucks less and still get it to...you know...play games on it? Let the blue ray fight its battle against hd-dvd someplace else. Stop trying to take over the 'home theater' and freakin focus on games. Maybe less crap would come out. For all the flack Nintendo gets, one thing you have to give them is that their first party titles are exceptional.

I think that's the bone most gamers have with Sony right now, well said.

[Kilmer]

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The really scary part is that Sony is on shaky financial ground and they've literally put all their eggs in this basket. It's doubtful, but if the PS3 fails totally...Sony and BlueRay is doomed.

This is what I don't think a lot of people see. Sony is the market leader today, but just like Nintendo, there are no gaurantee's the PS3 will be the market leader of the future. They do not have the best financial position and they are staking everything on Blu Ray. Everything. I honestly do not believe Blu Ray will win out even though it is the better tech. Not unless overnight Blu Ray becomes a whole lot cheaper to produce and the Porn industry climbs on board. HD-DVD is just positioned better.

That plus the fact that the mass market is not asking to move to High def and people will just not see the benefit to HD as the did going from VHS to DVD. This next format will have a much slower adoption rate IMO. IT will be adopted, but about as slow as HD itself.

Now the PS3 was supposed to be Sony's trojan horse, the ace in hole for Blu Ray. Then they announce that price point that will take years to get to mass market level and I am like - WTF? Now I am not so sure now that Blu Ray won't take down Sony. They have been bleeding money for years.

[Rodster]

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But to put things in prespective Kilmer the Playstation brand is what makes money for the company so it offsets the losses Sony's other brands have seen. When I worked for Sony back in early 2001 we were told the same thing about the PS1.

The difference here is that the PS1 and PS2 were launched at the same price I belive $299. Sony also went for broke on the PS2 and won hands down as it was a huge success. And Sony is trying to do the same with the PS3.

The difference is that the PS3 is coming out at double the price of the previous two.

[Boltman]

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Who's model makes more sense, MS or Sony. Sony doesn't force the new technology on you, thus, driving up the price of their product. They make it an optional add-on. Sony, on the other hand leaves the tech out of their core system, while taking away other features.

Cough' Blue Ray' Cough....................

[mgoblue]

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Cough' Blue Ray' Cough....................

we all saw how the UMD video for PSP went...does anyone actually buy those?

[Kilmer]

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But to put things in prespective Kilmer the Playstation brand is what makes money for the company so it offsets the losses Sony's other brands have seen. When I worked for Sony back in early 2001 we were told the same thing about the PS1.

The difference here is that the PS1 and PS2 were launched at the same price I belive $299. Sony also went for broke on the PS2 and won hands down as it was a huge success. And Sony is trying to do the same with the PS3.

The difference is that the PS3 is coming out at double the price of the previous two.

That is what my last statement focuses on, PS3 was supposed to make Blu Ray a slam dunk, but not at that price point when the 360 is a very nice alternative. Because very few are going to buy a PS3 for Blu Ray, they are buying it for games. I think if Sony came out at $399 and $499 or just one sku for $499, they might compare more favorably to the 360. That is IF MS did not drop the 360 another $100 to counter. But being $200 greater than your direct competitor is not good when you do not demonstrate an obvious difference is software quality. Even at $100 greater you are pushing it IMO.

I waited to see the price Sony was going to be at. I honestly was not expecting anything above $399 no matter the rumors, because I thought that would be console suicide. I fully expected MS to counter with a price drop too. I really do not know what I would think if Sony came in at $499 instead, but chances are I would have still just went with a 360. $500 is pretty much my limit for an initial entertainment investment, that would be for games AND hardware not hardware alone. As it is $500 only gets me one 360 game if I were to buy into the next generation now, Oblivion was close to being THAT game, but still not enough.

And it is not like I am poor and cheap. Hell I paid $500 for a PSP...a handheld. But that got me 4 games with the system and a larger memory stick for movies.

[SoMiss2000]

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Cough' Blue Ray' Cough....................

Sorry that should've read, MS doesn't force the new technology.

[Boltman]

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Sorry that should've read, MS doesn't force the new technology.

Ahh gotcha, my bad then. I shoulda figured thats what you meant from the jist of yer' post.