Warning for those considering buying a 360

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Warning for those considering buying a 360

With electronics there will always be error. The OP has had problems. I have my system from LAUNCH. It was manufactured in Oct 05 & have had no major problems. A couple of freezes, but that has been it.

When buying electronics, there's always a risk that something faulty will happen. That's just how it goes unfortunately...

Hey Joe, we bought ours the same day, and I still haven't had a problem, "Knocks on wood" My system will be a year old in 21 days and still running like it brand new, see but I clean my system once a week with a high powered computer vacum I have, it's for PC cleaning, but I blow out my 360 one a week for dust and what not and it never gave me an issue.

[Pared]

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Amazing Bullcrap threads are created like this 18 days before the PS3 launch.......

Why must you always choose sides? Microsoft, 2k Sports... what next? In no way does the original poster's comment deserve a response like this.

am i the only person left on OS with a launch 360?? lol

No problem here. Have a launch 360 (year old) and no problems. Play it nearly every day.

Same here. Maybe hanging out at Best Buy for 12 hours (half of it in the rain) for the midnight launch was worth it, as I have never, EVER had a problem with my 360. *knock on wood*

I've posted this elsewhere and I'll post it here as well: It is completely INEXCUSABLE that gamers should feel they need to purchase a "warranty" for a video game system. Console makers should be putting out a quality AND RELIABLE product. It's a complete sham that they can sell you a system for hundreds of dollars only to say "whoops, you mean your 360 stopped working in 4 months? We can fix it... for $215.53 cents." These damn systems should be made to function and last. We're not even one year in yet since release and I've read horror story after horror story with the 360. It froze, 3 red rings of light, my HD won't come up, I lost all my gamesaves, my system won't turn on... it's absolutely ridiculous.

EB, GameStop, CC, Best Buy... all these stores live off customers purchasing warranties for anything and everything. Worried your bag might break on the way home? Purchase a warranty for $.50 and we'll replace it free of charge.

[bigfnjoe96]

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I've been one of MS' biggest supporters with the 360. And their customer service has been nothing but **** for me. My 360 died, and in order to get the arcade games back on my HDD for my silver account or while not hooked up to Live (the instance where Live was down 2 days is the only time), I had to fax in info, call them 8 times, argue, spend 6 1/2 hours on the phone and just this morning, did I finally get the codes to get my games back. No clue if they will work or not, as I'm not home to try, but I'm guess it's not going to as MS told me I have to enter the codes on my gold account. Now, how am I supposed to rebuy games I already have paid for on the Marketplace? Hmmm, the idiot at MS had no clue either. I asked him if I should use my wife's silver account (since it's the one that can't access anything) and he said I can't, the codes are tied to my gold account. So, it looks like I still won't have my arcade games, but I'm 18,000 points richer. Whoopee. Thanks MS for nothing.

Did you send you 360 back with your HDD attached? Everyone I know that has has replacements, never sent their HDD with the console & were fine when their replacements got back.

Now if you sent your entire system back that's a different story..

[ExtremeGamer]

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Did you send you 360 back with your HDD attached? Everyone I know that has has replacements, never sent their HDD with the console & were fine when their replacements got back.

Now if you sent your entire system back that's a different story..

Nope, in store warranty, I kept the HDD. It's like this, and it happens for every replaced system. Arcade games and downloads are tied to 2 things, your gamertag and the internal 360 memory (not the HDD). So, I put my HDD on the new system, and there are all my arcade games for my gold account, no problem. Since the gold account purchased them.

I have 2 accounts, a silver account that only my wife uses. She goes to her account, every single arcade game is listed as a trial game. Because...the old system had her info as being on the system since the day I bought it, but the new one only knows me. Adding her now, she gets access to all of my new games, say Lumines, she has access to. But the old games I've had, she doesn't. It's extremely frustrating.

Same if you've had your 360 replaced, unplug from Live and try to play the Arcade games that you bought before the system was replaced, they will only be trials now.

I understand the reasoning for why they did that, but there has to be an easier way for someone to get their games/stuff back.

[Graphik]

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Meh...first off let me say that I dont plan on getting a PS3 or Wii but IMO, the 360 is close to a piece of **** if you ask me. I'm so paranoid of it exploding and crapping out on me one day, sometimes I refuse to play it. Half the games I bought for it had problems with loading and crashes. So far its been good but the thing reminds me of a PC which is always guaranteed to have problems down the road. The 360 is right up there with the PS2 IMO and although the PS2 worked, you knew it was gonna die eventually after a certain time. The 360 is like a ticking timebomb.

[CaptainZombie]

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am i the only person left on OS with a launch 360?? lol

Knock on Wood, that makes two of us. MS should send us something if we make it to 1 yr launch anniversary.

I took off the intercooler, so let's see what happens.

[Rodster]

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Nope, in store warranty, I kept the HDD. It's like this, and it happens for every replaced system. Arcade games and downloads are tied to 2 things, your gamertag and the internal 360 memory (not the HDD). So, I put my HDD on the new system, and there are all my arcade games for my gold account, no problem. Since the gold account purchased them.

I have 2 accounts, a silver account that only my wife uses. She goes to her account, every single arcade game is listed as a trial game. Because...the old system had her info as being on the system since the day I bought it, but the new one only knows me. Adding her now, she gets access to all of my new games, say Lumines, she has access to. But the old games I've had, she doesn't. It's extremely frustrating.

Same if you've had your 360 replaced, unplug from Live and try to play the Arcade games that you bought before the system was replaced, they will only be trials now.

I understand the reasoning for why they did that, but there has to be an easier way for someone to get their games/stuff back.

So EG let me get this straight. Let's say my 360 died, I walk into EB get a new system. I come home and recover my gamertag with the new serial # from my brand new 360.

You're saying I would lose my marketplace points and all the arcade games I purchased? If that's the case I would be pissed (excuse my French) as well and I would ditch the 360 and XBL forever.

[Bacardi151]

Re: Warning for those considering buying a 360

Why must you always choose sides? Microsoft, 2k Sports... what next? In no way does the original poster's comment deserve a response like this.





Same here. Maybe hanging out at Best Buy for 12 hours (half of it in the rain) for the a midnight launch was worth it, as I have never, EVER had a problem with my 360. *knock on wood*

I've posted this elsewhere and I'll post it here as well: It is completely INEXCUSABLE that gamers should feel they need to purchase a "warranty" for a video game system. Console makers should be putting out a quality AND RELIABLE product. It's a complete sham that they can sell you a system for hundreds of dollars only to say "whoops, you mean your 360 stopped working in 4 months? We can fix it... for $215.53 cents." These damn systems should be made to function and last. We're not even one year in yet since release and I've read horror story after horror story with the 360. It froze, 3 red rings of light, my HD won't come up, I lost all my gamesaves, my system won't turn on... it's absolutely ridiculous.

EB, GameStop, CC, Best Buy... all these store live off customers purchasing warranties for anything and everything. Worried your bag might break on the way home? Purchase a warranty for $.50 and we'll replace it free of charge.

Couldnt agree more. I noticed that EB and GS now also have a warranty for 4 bucks or so in case you scratch your game.

I understand the whole 'you should purchase a warranty for electronics devices', but i am of the old school mindset with gaming systems, and i cant shake it. All the systems i have had have never broken ( from the old odyssey thru the atari, colleco vision, vectrex, master system, nes, snes, etc) and being a kid with most of those systems, we abused them a whole lot more. Now these things need to be placed in plastic bubbles and looking away from anything which might cause them to flip out.

I now feel the need to purchase a warranty for an xbox 360 and most other devices, except for nintendo devices...go figure. I wish Sony and MS would work a bit more to make these things tougher or more withstanding. Maybe its wishful thinking.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Nope, in store warranty, I kept the HDD. It's like this, and it happens for every replaced system. Arcade games and downloads are tied to 2 things, your gamertag and the internal 360 memory (not the HDD). So, I put my HDD on the new system, and there are all my arcade games for my gold account, no problem. Since the gold account purchased them.

I have 2 accounts, a silver account that only my wife uses. She goes to her account, every single arcade game is listed as a trial game. Because...the old system had her info as being on the system since the day I bought it, but the new one only knows me. Adding her now, she gets access to all of my new games, say Lumines, she has access to. But the old games I've had, she doesn't. It's extremely frustrating.

Same if you've had your 360 replaced, unplug from Live and try to play the Arcade games that you bought before the system was replaced, they will only be trials now.

I understand the reasoning for why they did that, but there has to be an easier way for someone to get their games/stuff back.

Gotcha... Definitely could be done better, so this doesn't happen again.. I guess having a Silver Account isn't as good as it seems

[pk500]

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I think what bothers me more than the arguments over the merits of MS' customer service is that people are just accepting the horrible failure rate of the 360. They're just taking Microsoft's horrid design, parts sourcing or quality control right up the azz because, "Oh, well, we bought a warranty."

First, doesn't it bother you that 360's are failing at an alarming rate? Don't those who have had 360 failures wonder if the three red lights of death will turn on every time they load a disc into their refurbished or exchanged new machine?

That's not a comforting feeling for a product for which you've spent $400.

And I know electronics are finicky, but are we so accepting of sh*t quality control, parts sourcing or design that a $40-60 warranty -- the price of one game -- is just accepted as part of the cost of buying a new console?

It never used to be like that, and it's complete horsesh*t. That extra $40-60 should go toward a game or a peripheral, not peace of mind to counter lousy design, parts or manufacturing by a company.

Take care,
PK

[Pared]

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Couldnt agree more. I noticed that EB and GS now also have a warranty for 4 bucks or so in case you scratch your game.

I understand the whole 'you should purchase a warranty for electronics devices', but i am of the old school mindset with gaming systems, and i cant shake it. All the systems i have had have never broken ( from the old odyssey thru the atari, colleco vision, vectrex, master system, nes, snes, etc) and being a kid with most of those systems, we abused them a whole lot more. Now these things need to be placed in plastic bubbles and looking away from anything which might cause them to flip out.

I now feel the need to purchase a warranty for a an xbox 360 and most other devices, except for nintendo devices...go figure. I wish Sony and MS would work a bit more to make these things tougher or more withstanding. Maybe its wishful thinking.

That's just it... things won't change. This is the norm and things will only get worse. I had no idea of the warranty for game scratches. That's incredible. Can you imagine the horror stories you're going to read about that?? "EB wouldn't honor it because they said it was the 360 that caused the game scratch." I mean, what kinda **** is that??

I'm saying this now: The Wii will most likely have more problems than any other Nintendo console. Why? Everone loves to compliment Nintendo's quality when it comes to consoles. Hell, I agree with them. But up until now, they've pretty much stayed cartridge based. The NES, SNES, GB, GBA, DS, Virtual Boy, N64... the GC was the only cd-based media used in a console system, and even then, there were no issues because (and this is my own reasoning) of how the CD sat in the drive. It was horizontal. Most systems that can hold a CD or similar media vertically always have more issues sooner or later than horizontal based devices. Why? No one reason... but if you follow this stuff, you'd realize that. Couple that with fact that it's a dual slot-loading drive... well... history is going against Nintendo here that's for sure.

I hope that it does well, as I'm interested in picking one up further down the line... but I'm still willing to bet things won't be all fun and games (no pun intended) a bit down the line...

[sroz39]

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COD2 and NBA2k6 both looked much better than their "past-gen" counterparts so I don't know where you're getting that from...

COD2 was a PC port, and there's PC's that can run that game and make it look better than the 360 version.

NBA 2K6 looked great up close...but from further away, the differences were minimal, not to mention the refs and coaches were based off their current gen models.

Before you ask, yes I have an HDTV.

[pk500]

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Nope you're not alone my launch 360 has been flawless as well. I'm debating if I should exchange it before the warranty runs out.

Not to single out Rodster, but his post illustrates my above point exactly. A good guy like Rodster, who dropped at least $400 for his 360, shouldn't have these thoughts enter his mind.

But the abnormally high rate of 360 hardware failure, validated by MS' decision to extend the warranty for launch units to one year, creates this kind of doubt.

Still, everything will be OK if "you buy the warranty." That's total horsesh*t.

Take care,
PK

[pk500]

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I've posted this elsewhere and I'll post it here as well: It is completely INEXCUSABLE that gamers should feel they need to purchase a "warranty" for a video game system. Console makers should be putting out a quality AND RELIABLE product. It's a complete sham that they can sell you a system for hundreds of dollars only to say "whoops, you mean your 360 stopped working in 4 months? We can fix it... for $215.53 cents." These damn systems should be made to function and last. We're not even one year in yet since release and I've read horror story after horror story with the 360. It froze, 3 red rings of light, my HD won't come up, I lost all my gamesaves, my system won't turn on... it's absolutely ridiculous.

EB, GameStop, CC, Best Buy... all these stores live off customers purchasing warranties for anything and everything. Worried your bag might break on the way home? Purchase a warranty for $.50 and we'll replace it free of charge.

Pared:

Well said, man. I posted my thoughts about warranties BEFORE I read your thread.

Sorry.

Take care,
PK

[pk500]

Re: Warning for those considering buying a 360

Meh...first off let me say that I dont plan on getting a PS3 or Wii but IMO, the 360 is close to a piece of **** if you ask me. I'm so paranoid of it exploding and crapping out on me one day, sometimes I refuse to play it. Half the games I bought for it had problems with loading and crashes. So far its been good but the thing reminds me of a PC which is always guaranteed to have problems down the road. The 360 is right up there with the PS2 IMO and although the PS2 worked, you knew it was gonna die eventually after a certain time. The 360 is like a ticking timebomb.

Another post that proves my point and Pared's point. And another post I should have read before making my above posts!

Take care,
PK