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  • Phobia
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    • Jan 2008
    • 11623

    #421
    Re: Left 4 Dead

    Originally posted by goh
    If it wasn't single player it'd be like Shadowrun or Team Fortress 2 and not have single player based on the mostly poor effort made at it then it should've been left out.

    Did I forget to mention the fantastic story that clearly explains why there's zombies all over the place,who all these people are and how they ended up here? What little story there is doesn't even make sense like just why what is apprently an ex army guy and biker that enjoys bar fights are letting a college student and office worker go first.
    Ok since you seem dead set on proving that the game is not up to the caliber you wanted. I will explain WHY it is the way it is.

    1) It HAD long cut scenes displaying all the story and characters. It was cut out

    2) It was cut out because the game is built for playablity. Meaning watching the same cut scene for the 100th time would of been a total mess.

    3) The game is built to be played with friends. It is a fast paced action survivor movie. It is not RPG with tons of story, it is not a shooter with all kinds of controls.

    4) It is not meant to be taken as serious as you are making it, it is meant to be FUN and that is it.

    5) Speaking of fun the developers learned that in counter strike a group of buddies verus waves of knife welding terrorist was FUN. So it evolved into the concept of zombies (Thanks EG for director commentary)

    6) The characters were designed to have heavy contrast between each other not only in color scheme but also LOOK so when heavy action was going on you could pick them out of the crowd very quickly to lend a hand or help them or whatever.

    Basiclly it is meant to be fast paced fun with friends. If this type of gameplay is not your thing then it is just not. But downing it for design decisions that make the game easier to take in and play over and over I don't agree with you on.
    Last edited by Phobia; 12-05-2008, 10:24 AM.

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    • Vast
      MVP
      • Sep 2003
      • 4015

      #422
      Re: Left 4 Dead

      Originally posted by Phobia
      Ok since you seem dead set on proving that the game is not up to the caliber you wanted. I will explain WHY it is the way it is.

      1) It HAD long cut scenes displaying all the story and characters. It was cut out

      2) It was cut out because the game is built for playablity. Meaning watching the same cut scene for the 100th time would of been a total mess.

      3) The game is built to be played with friends. It is a fast paced action survivor movie. It is not RPG with tons of story, it is not a shooter with all kinds of controls.

      4) It is not meant to be taken as serious as you are making it, it is meant to be FUN and that is it.

      5) Speaking of fun the developers learned that in counter strike a group of buddies verus waves of knife welding terrorist was FUN. So it evolved into the concept of zombies (Thanks EG for director commentary)

      6) The characters were designed to have heavy contrast between each other not only in color scheme but also LOOK so when heavy action was going on you could pick them out of the crowd very quickly to lend a hand or help them or whatever.

      Basiclly it is meant to be fast paced fun with friends. If this type of gameplay is not your thing then it is just not. But downing it for design decisions that make the game easier to take in and play over and over I don't agree with you on.
      Hey man thanks for the info!

      I just wish they would've included the story cut scenes as unlockables after defeating all 4 campaigns on advance or something like that. I would like to know more about the characters since i've grown attached to them.
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      • goh
        Banned
        • Aug 2003
        • 20755

        #423
        Re: Left 4 Dead

        1 & 2. Or ya know...leave them in with an option to turn them off or skip them like just about every other game on the planet. Who would watch them every time? Is there anyone not smart enough to press the start/A/enter/space button to skip it if they don't want to see it?

        3. There's single player there. Like I said even if it's supposed to be multiplayer that's no excuse for a crappy single player mode.

        4. But it wasn't fun. It was more of chore.

        5. This isn't Counterstrike.

        6. I said nothing about how they look. I said the biker guy and miltary guy should always be taking the lead because obviously they'd be better with these things than an office worker and college student.

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        • Cyros
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          • Jun 2003
          • 12628

          #424
          Re: Left 4 Dead

          The college student is a horror movie buff though.
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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #425
            Re: Left 4 Dead

            Originally posted by goh
            1 & 2. Or ya know...leave them in with an option to turn them off or skip them like just about every other game on the planet. Who would watch them every time? Is there anyone not smart enough to press the start/A/enter/space button to skip it if they don't want to see it?

            3. There's single player there. Like I said even if it's supposed to be multiplayer that's no excuse for a crappy single player mode.

            4. But it wasn't fun. It was more of chore.

            5. This isn't Counterstrike.

            6. I said nothing about how they look. I said the biker guy and miltary guy should always be taking the lead because obviously they'd be better with these things than an office worker and college student.
            1 & 2 - Who would want to skip them EVERY time

            3) - It was not made to be played single player - it is more of a training mode

            4)If it is not fun to you then why are u playing it?

            5) I am given you info where the concept came from. Of course it is not CS

            6)You are being to picky

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            • goh
              Banned
              • Aug 2003
              • 20755

              #426
              Re: Left 4 Dead

              People that didn't want to watch them more than once? People skip the main intro vids before the press start screen all the time don't they? No one is taking them out to get to the game faster.

              Shadowrun has a training mode. This is a single player mode.

              Well I'm not now,it was only a rental. Had to play it to find out if it was fun cause of the -wait a week for silver- crap and during that week my 360 broke and when I got it back it was gone. (This current gold is the 1 month card that came with the broken 360 replacement that I only used to get the Red Alert demo)

              I have no problem with the concept itself,it's the execution and I listened to the commentary too.

              Apprently.

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              • Vast
                MVP
                • Sep 2003
                • 4015

                #427
                Re: Left 4 Dead

                Originally posted by goh
                People that didn't want to watch them more than once? People skip the main intro vids before the press start screen all the time don't they? No one is taking them out to get to the game faster.

                Shadowrun has a training mode. This is a single player mode.

                Well I'm not now,it was only a rental. Had to play it to find out if it was fun cause of the -wait a week for silver- crap and during that week my 360 broke and when I got it back it was gone. (This current gold is the 1 month card that came with the broken 360 replacement that I only used to get the Red Alert demo)

                I have no problem with the concept itself,it's the execution and I listened to the commentary too.

                Apprently.
                I guess the game went over your head bro. Thats your opinion, and honestly ur in the minority.

                IMO the concept is cool but the execution is mind blowing! For me this is the most fun i've had online since Halo 2 on the original xbox revolutionized online gaming.

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                • Jgainsey
                  I can't feel it
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3360

                  #428
                  Re: Left 4 Dead

                  Originally posted by Cyros
                  The college student is a horror movie buff though.
                  lol.
                  Now, more than ever

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                  • Cyros
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 12628

                    #429
                    Re: Left 4 Dead

                    So, who is playing tonight?
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                    • fenwayfaithful
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 176

                      #430
                      Re: Left 4 Dead

                      this game is amazing. the XBL performance is great, and the way you can choose your "type" of zombie is really cool.

                      I love the special effects as well
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                      • IlliniM1ke
                        Heroes Never Die
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 8082

                        #431
                        Re: Left 4 Dead

                        Originally posted by Coug00
                        Damn! I'll be switching to the PC version soon.
                        PC version is going to be great with the mods, 360 version is great due to being able to play with all my friends on XBL and if they support it with DLC it can become even better, but even with DLC it won't come close to the PC version.

                        I don't think I'll switch to the PC version, but I think I'm going to ask for the PC version for Christmas! Get the best of both worlds, still play on XBL with most of my friends but I have one other friend who is getting it on PC and also there are some OSers here that I could play with.

                        Looks like I'll be needing both versions!
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                        • fishepa
                          I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 18989

                          #432
                          Re: Left 4 Dead

                          Still haven't received from Gamefly. Sigh...

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                          • ExtremeGamer
                            Extra Life 11/3/18
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 35299

                            #433
                            Re: Left 4 Dead

                            Originally posted by fishepa
                            Still haven't received from Gamefly. Sigh...
                            I was wondering where you were all weekend, I played both Saturday and Sunday.

                            Gamefly is terrible, I would never use them again at how poor their service was for me. Just the worst.

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                            • fishepa
                              I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 18989

                              #434
                              Re: Left 4 Dead

                              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                              I was wondering where you were all weekend, I played both Saturday and Sunday.

                              Gamefly is terrible, I would never use them again at how poor their service was for me. Just the worst.
                              I'm not sure if it's the USPS or Gamefly. They told me it shipped last Thursday, which usually means I'll get it 2 days later (Saturday). But I didn't get it. Hopefully today.

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                              • Phobia
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 11623

                                #435
                                Re: Left 4 Dead

                                Well guys the experience just got ramped up even greater for me. I mentioned in MC's "Gaming setups" thread I was building a new PC.

                                Q6600 Quad core
                                XFX 9800 GT
                                4 gig ram
                                ect

                                Well I can now jack the graphics to the max running 1440x900 res and let me tell you WOW!!!!!!!!

                                It is not the most graphics extensive game (btw farcry 2 looks AMAZING). but all the little touchs I get now is soooooo badass. Like when you unload alot with the smg and the barrels get hot and the smoke rises off the barrel. Plus the new fire looks quit well. Then the rain on No Mercy and the shine on the ground. THEN the movie grain in a dark room, it looks like a movie.

                                I am in LOVE with the game

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