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  • Hoos
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3998

    #1861
    Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

    Made a quality decision today............come this weekend I am starting my search for an early copy of the game. Someone, somewhere is going to put this game on their shelf and start selling it early. I know that this weekend is probably a bit early for this but you never know. There's a Walmart near me that I've got a sneaky suspicion will have the game out soon.

    This may be an exercise in futility but it's worth the effort IMO

    If I find the game early, I'll probably pick up a few extra copies to share with my fellow OS'ers.......highest bidder gets the loot
    XBL Gamertag: hoos4974

    PSN: hoos4974

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #1862
      Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

      How could you say Blu-Ray has nothing do with it when the VP himself mentioned that they don't feel the "limitations" of a DVD and possible lack of hard drive on the PS3 as opposed to the 360?

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      Don't know what review you're referring to.
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      • Altimus
        Chelsea, Assemble!
        • Nov 2004
        • 27283

        #1863
        Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

        Having the ability of high storage media and combine that with the ability to use that data to install on the HDD is huge to any software developer.

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        • ThaGenecyst
          MVP
          • Sep 2004
          • 4404

          #1864
          Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

          I don't think blu-ray has anything to do with great or poor framerates.
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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #1865
            Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

            Originally posted by ThaGenecyst
            I don't think blu-ray has anything to do with great or poor framerates.
            Reading back, if allb meant what he wrote in that context, I would agree with you.

            I thought he meant from a developer's standpoint. My initial comment alluded to they were having issues with the 360 version. Didn't mean to infer that Blu-ray was a factor in frame-rates.
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            • Spectre
              Th* ******
              • Mar 2003
              • 5853

              #1866
              Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

              Originally posted by DookieMowf
              YEP
              With dookie getting the 360 version, is there any other way to go?

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              • allBthere
                All Star
                • Jan 2008
                • 5847

                #1867
                Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                Originally posted by Pared
                Reading back, if allb meant what he wrote in that context, I would agree with you.

                I thought he meant from a developer's standpoint. My initial comment alluded to they were having issues with the 360 version. Didn't mean to infer that Blu-ray was a factor in frame-rates.
                I did mean it in that first context of framerates

                secondly, The fake review mentions that the 360 runs the same provided you do an initial hard-drive install.

                Finally I think all games will be practically identical in performance because of the ps3's lack of random access memory compared to the 360. There are compelling arguments for both systems as to which is a more powerful gamming machine, but I think their strengths and weaknesses even them out to being just about the same.

                Now for the fake review: http://gamingeh.com/first-grand-thef...eview-maaaybe/
                had to do a link to a secondary source since original may be taken down

                and in full text:
                INTRODUCTION
                There are two questions I know everyone wants answered right off the bat. So, to please my fans, I’m happy to oblige.
                • Does GTA4 live up to the hype? Yes.
                • Are the PS3 and 360 really the same? No.
                Need more? Read on…
                Grand Theft Auto IV is a digital masterpiece. Period. You will like the Xbox 360 version of this game. You will like the PS3 version of this game. Technically, they are the same! However, there are some minor variations. To make these variations easier to read through, I will write 360 specific comments in RED (since the 360 is famous for the color red, haha) and PS3 comments in Blu (see what I did there?). So let’s get started!
                [I didn’t color the text. -Mark]
                FIRST THINGS FIRST
                When popping the disc into the PS3 for the first time, you’ll have a brief installation. Don’t worry, it only takes ten minutes or so, and there’s a pleasant bit of GTA history trivia to keep you occupied. So, unlike with Devil May Cry, you’ll be able to eat your sandwich prior to playing the game. On the 360, this installation is optional if you have a hard drive. I advise to proceed with installation—it reduces the already minimal frame rate issues on the 360. When the game finally begins, you’ll be treated to the best opening credit sequence I’ve seen for a game in a long, long time.
                STORY
                I’m not going to ruin anything. Let’s just say that the story in GTA4 is much more cohesive and cinematic than in other GTA games. You’ll be entranced.
                GAME PLAY
                You’re going to like GTA4. But you’ll only love part of it. The game play is essentially the same as it was in previous GTA games, which is what you’ll love. There are a few extras/improvements that you’ll also love. Vehicles are fantastic. The cover system is effective and easy to get used to, as most games now have some sort of cover system. The squeaky car animation used when hookers do their thing is now accompanied by foggy windows—sweet. You can store your favorite vehicles in garages or parking spaces, which is a nice touch. Pay ‘n Spray will replace your broken windows and change your car color…but that does nothing when the police are already in pursuit.
                It’s the things that are missing that will turn the volume down on your experience. If you’ve never played GTA, then you won’t miss much. The absence of the Dodo stinks. Going on rampages is now almost impossible. The ability to commit crimes is much more difficult. Wanna shoot rockets down the street, blow up a parking lot, etc? Well, you won’t get far. The 5-0 in GTA4 are smart, and they work really hard to bring you down.
                It’s also a bit disappointing that law enforcement actually spawns. The game would feel much more realistic if cops had to call for back up, and patrol cars would actually drive to your location from a few blocks away before joining the fun. But that’s not how it works. A handful of cops will appear out of nowhere (on the 360, they actually pop-in if you didn’t do the install). NOOSE will appear out of no where. And choppers? Well, there’s no faint pitter-patter of blades in the wind to alert you of their approach. I think they jump to position through worm holes or something.
                But aside from these annoyances, GTA4 is fantastic. It feels so real.
                Euphoria didn’t do as much as I hoped. Let’s face it, when you hit a pedestrian at 50 mph, they do one thing: fall. It may look different in slow motion, but when you’re really doing it—when you’re in the middle of the action—animations always feel the same. There are moments, though, where Euphoria will kick in and you’ll say, “Awesome”. When you try to duplicate it, you won’t be able to. This is where Euphoria shines. There will be one time moments of sheer bliss—and it’s worth every second.
                Riding in a Taxi is awesome. You’ll spend your first twenty or so trips admiring the city from the cab. Remember the car ride in Call of Duty 4? This is equally as engaging, if not more so. Seeing the world like this, hustling and bustling, living their digital lives…it makes a bullet to their head an extra level of satisfaction.
                CONTROLS
                I preferred the PS3 controls because I’ve always played GTA on PS hardware. The controls aren’t identical to previous games, but the learning curve is really small. Most people will probably prefer the 360 controller, but that’s to be expected.
                There were a couple minor things about the controls that bugged me. I’ll mention the single big thing: running. Tapping a button to run works well in theory, but I just know that the wear and tear on my controller has to be increasing exponentially. Still, it’s better than having fatigue in game, as how much you run literally depends on your fatigue in the real world. If you’re tired of tapping, you walk or take a cab. If the cops are on your tail, you muster up the energy to tap some more. All in all, it works as a concept…but it’s bitter-sweet.
                GRAPHICS
                Been waiting for this? Well, what can I say? It’s beautiful. But I know you’re really concerned about which system it looks better on, and I have the scoop! The truth is that, if installed, the game looks equally impressive on both systems.
                The PS3 has a more relaxed color pallet, but this gives everything a more realistic look. If you don’t like the realistic look, and you have a HDMI connection, you can fiddle with your PS3 display settings and get it looking much more saturated. The textures are just as sharp as the 360 version, and there’s little to no pop-in or screen tearing. The PS3 takes longer to load than the 360, but I took several different head counts in game at different locations, and I always found the PS3 to be more populated than the 360. This could be attributed to the dynamic nature of the world, but it’s hard to tell. Either way, the difference was never more than five to seven pedestrians or three to four cars—it’s not really much of an advantage.
                The 360 is bright. Boy is it bright. Based on discussion history, this one will be claimed to look better, but it’ll really be preference. The texture quality is the same on both systems, but the 360 has a more cartoon-like look. This isn’t a bad thing. It just depends on preference. I’d compare the difference to that of Oblivion on each system. The 360 also suffers from some frame rate drops that are almost non-existent on the PS3. Installing the 360 version on your system’s hard drive, however, will bring performance almost up to par with the PS3.
                Let me add that these differences are only noticeable when the games are shown side by side. I’d liken it to shopping for a TV. There’s always one that looks better than another, the 60” make the 50” seem too small, etc. The truth is, once by itself in your living room, it’ll look fantastic, and you won’t be disappointed.
                MULTIPLAYER
                I didn’t get to use this. I know, you want details, but all I can confirm is split-screen on PS3 only. I was alone, so I didn’t actually get to have any matches, but I could tell that the split-screen worked really well. There was a significant decrease in the amount of traffic and pedestrians, but it didn’t ruin anything. This is understandable. Rendering two instances of Liberty City is a chore for any machine. I can’t conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn’t handle it. If you own a 360, don’t worry. You have Xbox Live…so you’re set.
                CONCLUSION
                Grand Theft Auto 4 is worth the hype. It’s worth $60, and you’ll easily spend over 75 hours with this game. That’s a pretty decent bargain. It’s difficult to rate the game without bias! Any complaints I have are almost completely based on my experience with other GTA games…so it’s tough!
                9.3/10
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                • Brandwin
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 30621

                  #1868
                  Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                  It’s the things that are missing that will turn the volume down on your experience. If you’ve never played GTA, then . Going on rampages is now almost impossible. The ability to commit crimes is much more difficult. Wanna shoot rockets down the street, blow up a parking lot, etc? Well, you won’t get far. The 5-0 in GTA4 are smart, and they work really hard to bring you down.
                  It’s also a bit disappointing that law enforcement actually spawns. The game would feel much more realistic if cops had to call for back up, and patrol cars would actually drive to your location from a few blocks away before joining the fun. But that’s not how it works. A handful of cops will appear out of nowhere (on the 360, they actually pop-in if you didn’t do the install). NOOSE will appear out of no where. And choppers? Well, there’s no faint pitter-patter of blades in the wind to alert you of their approach. I think they jump to position through worm holes or something.
                  Hmmm...

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                  • Flawless
                    Bang-bang! Down-down!
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 16780

                    #1869
                    Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                    *sniff* *sniff* What's that smell?
                    Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #1870
                      Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                      10 minute HD installation?
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #1871
                        Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                        spawning law enforcement and choppers....Oh boy. That could be a sticky situation.

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                        • Brandwin
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 30621

                          #1872
                          Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                          Originally posted by Flawless
                          *sniff* *sniff* What's that smell?
                          Yeah I don't think I am going to take that sites word on anything.

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                          • Flawless
                            Bang-bang! Down-down!
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 16780

                            #1873
                            Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                            Check out his revised review.
                            Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                            • allBthere
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 5847

                              #1874
                              Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                              Originally posted by DookieMowf
                              Yeah I don't think I am going to take that sites word on anything.
                              That's why i didn't post it earlier...one because i thought everyone knew about it a week ago (or more) and two because I don't want anyone to confuse it for being truth or reality or even the matrix lol...

                              It was at least thoughtful in the sense that and optional install wouldnt be a bad way around some kind of 'limitation' - the stupid thing is i've never seen or heard of anyone with a hard-drive-less 360.
                              Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

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                              • Brandwin
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 30621

                                #1875
                                Re: Let's talk about... Grand Theft Auto 4

                                Originally posted by Flawless
                                Check out his revised review.
                                LOL WTF? So why does he have a revised review?

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