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  • allBthere
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    • Jan 2008
    • 5847

    #16
    Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

    Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
    If I have been fooling around with Jessica ALba my entire life and then someone puts Suzanne SOmmers on my plate, I think I would complain as well. I don't care how sexy she was in the 80s
    hmmm. If I was fooling around w/ alba and someone put a mid 90s anne-marie goddard on my plate, i would forget all about alba.
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    • Methlab
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      • Oct 2003
      • 2384

      #17
      Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

      After COD, everything sucks. But I do still have Castlevania on my 360 and that game, like Contra is kickass. Of course Im 30..lol.

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      • MC Fatigue
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        • Feb 2006
        • 4150

        #18
        Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

        I'm sure he'd react much better if he was introduced to NES and SNES games and worked his way up from there.

        How do you expect an 11 year old used to uber-flashy graphics, huge controllers, and tons of action to react to games that are 20 years old?

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        • WeLLWeLL
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          • Nov 2008
          • 2507

          #19
          Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

          Well they should be doing this on a weekly basis I assume. So maybe as they progress he will find a game that he enjoys more. But yeah, comparing everything to "Halo World at War" was relatively funny imo. I sure as hell wasn't expecting him to enjoy the game, but his descriptions of his feelings torward the game were classic. BTW, Contra kicks ace.

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          • DC
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            • Oct 2002
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            #20
            Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

            Originally posted by Timmay
            I'm sure he'd react much better if he was introduced to NES and SNES games and worked his way up from there.

            How do you expect an 11 year old used to uber-flashy graphics, huge controllers, and tons of action to react to games that are 20 years old?
            Exactly.
            Concrete evidence/videos please

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            • Whitesox
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              • Mar 2009
              • 5287

              #21
              Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

              Originally posted by allBthere
              you could take a kid the same age who has some affinity for strategy, put him on Civ 1 and he'd be there all day.
              But if you give him Civ 4 he'd be there for weeks.
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              • Chizzypoof
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                • Dec 2004
                • 1651

                #22
                Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                Yup. It's hard for an 11 year old that grew up on Next Gen graphics to appreciate any thing that came from the NES days. For me I progressed from the Atari, to Commodore64 (Summer Games - High Dive was fun for hours), to Intellivision, to the NES. So the graphic leap was always forward. You can't expect the kid to think this classic is good at all.

                The only thing that makes me laugh is the difficulty he has with it. That games was not bad compared to a Mega Man or even the original Metroid. Don't even put him on the original NES Ninja Gaiden. We had to memorize patterns and time jumps. The AI did the same thing every time and we had to recognize and adjust to this when we were younger then him. There were no immediate saves, and games didn't have the replenishing health bar. If something touches you, you die, don't let it hit you again. If you die too many times...game over, start again for the beginning. Tough love.

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                • Cebby
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                  • Apr 2005
                  • 22327

                  #23
                  Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                  Originally posted by trobinson97
                  How is the kid being objective when his experience of video games mainly consists of Halo and CoD? That's not objective at all. If you wanted an objective opinion you'd get it from someone who never played either game, or any games at all. All this kid did was compare it to the games he usually plays, how could you expect any answer than the ones he gave?
                  Hence my "pretty" in front of the word.

                  Obviously he's not completely objective, but he is far more objective than people who grew up with a game that's 20 years old.

                  Same thing when people act like Transformers (the TV show) was some art form.

                  The only thing that makes me laugh is the difficulty he has with it.
                  Why wouldn't he have difficulty with it?

                  It was a hard game. Hell, it's most famous for having a code.

                  However, more importantly, he's never seen or played anything like it.

                  If you took some guy who could pimp out Battletoads or any other hard 2D game but never played or seen anything after the 16 bit generation and put them in Resident Evil 2 on the easiest difficult without giving him any background, the guy would continuously die within the first 30 seconds.
                  Last edited by Cebby; 07-27-2009, 11:27 AM.

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                  • trobinson97
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                    • Oct 2004
                    • 16366

                    #24
                    Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                    Originally posted by Cebby
                    Hence my "pretty" in front of the word.

                    Obviously he's not completely objective, but he is far more objective than people who grew up with a game that's 20 years old.

                    Same thing when people act like Transformers (the TV show) was some art form.
                    I don't think he's any more objective than someone who grew up with the game. Sure, the older person would include nostalgia when making his judgments but it's no different than that kid who's caught up in the here and now of gaming. It would be a lot different had he not been exposed to any games before the test, but good luck finding a kid that's never played a video game these day.

                    If anything, I'd give the distinction of a more objective viewpoint to the gamer that came up playing video games from back then. They, at least, experienced both eras first hand as they happened. They would be in the better position, in my opinion, to give a more objective comparison between the two.
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                    • Chizzypoof
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 1651

                      #25
                      Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                      Originally posted by Cebby


                      Why wouldn't he have difficulty with it?

                      It was a hard game. Hell, it's most famous for having a code.

                      However, more importantly, he's never seen or played anything like it.

                      If you took some guy who could pimp out Battletoads or any other hard 2D game but never played or seen anything after the 16 bit generation and put them in Resident Evil 2 on the easiest difficult without giving him any background, the guy would continuously die within the first 30 seconds.
                      I agree. That was my point. That game was hard. I needed the famous code and two players just to pass it. I am just saying, that we had to keep at it and not rely on save points or hiding from enemies to let health replenish. Maybe I should have said "chuckle" not laugh.

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                      • Blzer
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42524

                        #26
                        Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                        Bah, take anyone who plays MLB 09: The Show and hand them a controller with Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball for SNES, and you'll see a positive reaction with nine out of ten test subjects.

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                        • Cebby
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                          • Apr 2005
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                          #27
                          Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                          Originally posted by trobinson97
                          If anything, I'd give the distinction of a more objective viewpoint to the gamer that came up playing video games from back then. They, at least, experienced both eras first hand as they happened. They would be in the better position, in my opinion, to give a more objective comparison between the two.
                          The old person could give a better perspective of the game in the 1980s, but the kid is a far better measure of how good Contra is today.

                          I would bet my bottom dollar that if you could take Halo and CoD back to the 1980s, nobody would want to play Contra then either.

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                          • SPTO
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #28
                            Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                            Apparently the next game they're gonna have him play is Battle Toads...IIRC that was one HARD HARD game.

                            Wonder how he'll react to that?
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                            • av7
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                              • Dec 2007
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                              #29
                              Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              Apparently the next game they're gonna have him play is Battle Toads...IIRC that was one HARD HARD game.

                              Wonder how he'll react to that?
                              It'll end in rage quit.
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                              • WeLLWeLL
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                                • Nov 2008
                                • 2507

                                #30
                                Re: 11 year old plays Contra for the first time

                                Originally posted by avrbas
                                It'll end in rage quit.
                                I'm guessing so. I loved Battletoads, but unless you had a friend to tag up with, it was extremely hard. Hell, it was hard with two people.

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