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  • Trevelyan
    MVP
    • Oct 2003
    • 1047

    #241
    Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

    The more I read, the more worried they're making me about this game. You gain currency that is then used for unlocks? This means you'll be able to purchase this currency for microsoft points, I guarantee it.

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    • allBthere
      All Star
      • Jan 2008
      • 5847

      #242
      Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

      Originally posted by Trevelyan
      The more I read, the more worried they're making me about this game. You gain currency that is then used for unlocks? This means you'll be able to purchase this currency for microsoft points, I guarantee it.
      why? you use 'currency' to buy guns in RDR, so I don't think the outcome is as inevitable as you do.

      It's more like custom ulocks...if I want that sniper rifle first I can skip unlocking other things until I have enough money to buy what I want first rather than progressing and getting it at level 70 for example
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      • PVarck31
        Moderator
        • Jan 2003
        • 16869

        #243
        Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

        Originally posted by Trevelyan
        The more I read, the more worried they're making me about this game. You gain currency that is then used for unlocks? This means you'll be able to purchase this currency for microsoft points, I guarantee it.
        You better believe it! You know what they need to do? They need to change the color of your user name if you purchased currency. That way we all know who the bitches are.

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        • Trevelyan
          MVP
          • Oct 2003
          • 1047

          #244
          Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

          Originally posted by allBthere
          why? you use 'currency' to buy guns in RDR, so I don't think the outcome is as inevitable as you do.

          It's more like custom ulocks...if I want that sniper rifle first I can skip unlocking other things until I have enough money to buy what I want first rather than progressing and getting it at level 70 for example
          It sounds to me like you won't get anything unlocked for progressing through levels, it read like you have to buy everything you want, but I could be wrong.

          I think its a lock we'll see this system abused by activison(we're not talking about the most friendly company here) to allow people to buy this currency, whatever they're calling it, for unlocks. I don't think they'll announce it anytime soon because it'll generate negative press and I'm sure they want to keep it all positive for as long as possible, but about a week before launch or so we'll be hearing about this.

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          • Flawless
            Bang-bang! Down-down!
            • Mar 2004
            • 16780

            #245
            Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

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            • Fresh Tendrils
              Strike Hard and Fade Away
              • Jul 2002
              • 36131

              #246
              Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

              Damnit. I am gonna end up getting this game.



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              • Flawless
                Bang-bang! Down-down!
                • Mar 2004
                • 16780

                #247
                Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops
                • No Danger Close/Fireworks/Sonic Boom equivalent. No OMA. No Commando. No Stopping Power. No Juggernaut. No Deathstreaks.
                • Secondaries are pistols, crossbow, and launchers.
                • Ninja is back in tier 3. Bling is back as Overlord in tier 2.
                • Killstreaks do not count toward others ones.
                • Deployable Equipment - Camera Spike. C4. TI. Jammer. Motion sensor. Claymore.
                • Tier One Perks - Lightweight. Scavenger. Ghost. Flak Jacket. Hardline.
                • Tier Two Perks - Hardened. Scout. Steady Aim. Sleight of Hand. Warlord.
                • Tier Three - Marathon. Ninja. Second Chance. Hacker. Tactical Mask.
                • Lethal Grenades - Tomahawk. Frag. Semtex.
                • Tactical Grenades - Willy Pete. Nova Gas. Flash Bang. Concussion. Decoy. Willy Pete is smoke.
                • Launchers - M72. RPG. Strela. China Lake.


                ...

                Customization:








                Killstreaks:

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                ...
                Last edited by Flawless; 09-02-2010, 12:15 AM.
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                • Cubfan
                  World Series Champions!!
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3929

                  #248
                  Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                  Originally posted by DTX3
                  Did Treyarch not learn from MW2? They should've dropped a beta.
                  Whos to say it wasn't Activison who said no to a beta?
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                  • Candyman5
                    Come get some!
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 14380

                    #249
                    No stopping power may piss me off. As long as the guns are a little more powerful then I wont mind. Man when they showed the ballistic knife and torque bow I was like this is goin to suck but with the new gametypes announced I may get this.


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                    • PVarck31
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16869

                      #250
                      Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                      Sold. Love the new modes. Everything sounds great so far. Just wish they did a beta.

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                      • SinisterAlex
                        Canadian eh?
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4551

                        #251
                        Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                        Originally posted by Flawless
                        • No Danger Close/Fireworks/Sonic Boom equivalent. No OMA. No Commando. No Stopping Power. No Juggernaut. No Deathstreaks.
                        • Secondaries are pistols, crossbow, and launchers.
                        • Ninja is back in tier 3. Bling is back as Overlord in tier 2.
                        • Killstreaks do not count toward others ones.
                        • Deployable Equipment - Camera Spike. C4. TI. Jammer. Motion sensor. Claymore.
                        • Tier One Perks - Lightweight. Scavenger. Ghost. Flak Jacket. Hardline.
                        • Tier Two Perks - Hardened. Scout. Steady Aim. Sleight of Hand. Warlord.
                        • Tier Three - Marathon. Ninja. Second Chance. Hacker. Tactical Mask.
                        • Lethal Grenades - Tomahawk. Frag. Semtex.
                        • Tactical Grenades - Willy Pete. Nova Gas. Flash Bang. Concussion. Decoy. Willy Pete is smoke.
                        • Launchers - M72. RPG. Strela. China Lake.


                        ...

                        Customization:








                        Killstreaks:

                        http://twitpic.com/2kedba
                        http://twitpic.com/2kedao
                        http://twitpic.com/2kedbc
                        http://twitpic.com/2kedb2
                        http://twitpic.com/2ked0x

                        ...
                        Disappointed that Lightweight and Marathon aren't in the same Tier...

                        But boy, do those player animations look sick!
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                        • Klocker
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3239

                          #252
                          Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                          wow... love the new modes, graphics look even better and the new perk/streak deal is better than MW2... Looks like I'll have two MP games to be addicted to this winter.

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                          • Flawless
                            Bang-bang! Down-down!
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 16780

                            #253
                            Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                            The Five Ways That Black Ops Changes Call of Duty Multiplayer

                            • No. 1) Combat Training
                              So Treyarch has come to the same conclusion as ****: not enough players actually go online. Despite the fact that COD hosts a thriving multiplayer community, the developers found out that a huge percentage of COD players simply never go online for multiplayer. The first major method the team wants to fix this with is through Combat Training, a sort of bot-match mode. For players who indeed are too intimidated to go online and test their mettle against other players, Combat Training will let them play against the A.I. and get used to the multiplayer experience. Online director Dan Bunting comments that the mode grew from the team's internal use of an A.I. bot (named "Larry") for balancing purposes, and they decided to let players go against Larry before jumping into the real world.

                            • No. 2) Customization
                              Modern Warfare might have introduced character classes with Perks and whatnot, and while Black Ops retains that same basic formula, the team has made some distinct changes to the character system. The key thought behind customization is the idea that the player should truly feel distinct and individualized, and the degree to what can be changed has increased significantly.

                              For one thing, there're the obvious visual changes that come from selecting a base class. Choosing a flak jacket fellow gives you a different character model than choosing a stealthy ghost guy. After that, the team has further changed the way your armament works; gear is now divided into "lethal" (anything that can kill, like grenades), "tactical" (things that give you information, like a radar sweep or somesuch), and "equipment" (items that can be deployed, or picked up, such as gun turrets).

                              Further than that though, you can also customize your emblems and weapons. The emblem editor lets you muck around with three layers (the emblem itself, any sort of tag or text, and the background), and it somewhat resembles the livery editor from something like a Forza game. The main example is when Bunting created a horse emblem that featured pistols instead of hooves adorned against the American flag. Then you can take said emblem, and apply it to your weapon -- in addition to changing the weapon's basic camouflage patterns or even the actual red dot sight (my favorite example is a rifle that changed the red dot sight into a blue happy face). The actual player classes, plus their gear, is part of the overall theme of player choice that Bunting cites frequently.

                            • No. 3) Theater
                              Likely inspired by Halo 3, Black Ops now supports a full theater mode for sharing your exploits online. Each player gets a file share space where he or she can place films, screenshots, or even custom game settings, and these items are all searchable and viewable. Your recent matches are available for searching, clipping, machinima-ing, and everything. Bunting wouldn't elaborate on what exactly "custom games" actually entails, but it's still interesting to see that every Black Ops player will have a central hub to post bragging rights (besides a Youtube channel).

                            • No. 4) Money
                              Perhaps the biggest change to COD is the concept of money which complements the leveling system. Lead multiplayer designer David Vonderhaar jokes that money came about from the simple fact that he's a greedy fellow who loves money and gambling said money. Bunting elaborates the system: in addition to earning experience points for levels, players will earn Call of Duty Points (CP). Every time they reach a level, they don't simply unlock one new gun. They unlock whole categories of firearms and attachments, and you then spend CP to buy gear for yourself. As Bunting reiterates, the core of multiplayer is about player choice, and now in addition to designing their own looks and color schemes, players will be defining their own loadouts via money.

                            • No. 5) Wager Matching
                              So with the addition of money comes the other item that Vonderaar loves so much: gambling. Wager Match is a separate multiplayer mode where you simply gamble your CP in a series of specific matches. The four "wagers" you can partake (so far) are: one in a chamber, sticks and stones, gun game, and sharpshooter. As noted, each Wager Match mode has specific rules, and does different things to your gambled CP.

                              One in a chamber starts simply: you have a knife and a single gun with a single bullet. Taking down foes will earn you more bullets to use, but once you run out of bullets, you have just the knife to stab fools with. Sharpshooter also has a pretty easy to grasp concept: everyone gets a random weapon that they are stuck with, and the emphasis is on pure, well, sharpshooting skill with whatever you have. Sticks and stones gives you ballistic knives, the crossbow, and tomahawks to take on players with. While the ballistic knives and the crossbow present standard "these are neat ways to kill opponents," the tomahawk presents the most interesting effect: it fully bankrupts its victim. The moment someone succumbs to a tomahawk, they instantly lose all of the CP they wagered for the match.

                              For me, the most interesting mode is easily Gun Game -- which itself seems reminiscent of a PC mod for Modern Warfare. This one has players working their way through a series of specific guns during a session. At any one time, you're locked to using one specific weapon, but a kill will automatically equip the next highest gun in the list -- meaning you start out with a lowly pistol but as you kill foes, you work up to better pistols then to submachineguns to shotguns to assault rifles and the like. The inverse happens as well -- every death means you get knocked down to using the previous (and weaker) gun. The first player to have used every gun becomes the winner of the wager. From my experience, it's just pretty neat to be on a solid kill run and just watch your arsenal get more and more lethal as you score -- only to be knocked down a peg or two from someone else interrupting your streak.

                              There honestly is quite a lot going on with Black Ops -- more than I expected. I had walked in thinking, "this is just going to be Modern Warfare 2 with bigger numbers," but with the five things outlined earlier, Black Ops already feels like a distinct (and large-scale) Treyarch title rather than a me-too addition to the franchise.
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                            • TracerBullet
                              One Last Job
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 22119

                              #254
                              Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

                              One in the Chamber sounds like my kinda fun. So does Sharpshooter.
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                              • Flawless
                                Bang-bang! Down-down!
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 16780

                                #255
                                Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops

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