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  • PaperBoyx703
    MVP
    • Sep 2010
    • 1591

    #10531
    Re: Battlefield 3

    Originally posted by TMagic
    You guys were being dbags that round with the Spas. Me and DBoys were determined to give you guys a death.

    Every time we'd take one of you down, I'd look up and see that you guys still had zero deaths. Stupid ****ing medic train.

    I dont care what anyone says, assault is overpowered.

    In the time it would take to toss out two med packs, you can revive an entire team. Explain the logic in that.
    I only got taken out twice that match one by a spawn fluke knife and one where you brought me down to like 5% and then some scrub came down spraying after you died, assault is only effective with the right people.

    It's fine and expected in a map like metro...with no vehicles. You'd be silly not to have a majority Medic team.

    I don't see how a class is over powered when it does what it is designed to do.
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    • weeeeeeez
      MVP
      • May 2011
      • 1736

      #10532
      Originally posted by TMagic
      Alright!

      60 L96 kills down!



      But 40 more to go...

      Rush on Damavand peak was the way I got this assignment done quick.
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      • dboyswitten82
        Rookie
        • Mar 2012
        • 77

        #10533
        Re: Battlefield 3

        Originally posted by cardinals57
        I think I merked you a couple times with my Spas. How did that feel?
        I got you all your registered deaths on metro so don't talk smack please.

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        • RJTurneR
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 2183

          #10534
          Re: Battlefield 3

          I played BF3 all day except for an hour's worth of FIFA. In the past seven hours I've had 12 wins and 3 losses! Success!

          Probably the best I've played for a while.

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          • cardinals57
            Pro
            • Mar 2011
            • 792

            #10535
            Originally posted by dboyswitten82
            I got you all your registered deaths on metro so don't talk smack please.
            49 and 4? That was fun

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            • TMagic
              G.O.A.T.
              • Apr 2007
              • 7550

              #10536
              Originally posted by PaperBoyx703
              I only got taken out twice that match one by a spawn fluke knife and one where you brought me down to like 5% and then some scrub came down spraying after you died, assault is only effective with the right people.

              It's fine and expected in a map like metro...with no vehicles. You'd be silly not to have a majority Medic team.

              I don't see how a class is over powered when it does what it is designed to do.
              Its not about them "doing what they're suppose to do".

              Its that what they do is, by far, the easiest thing to do in the entire game.

              It takes no strategy, no cunning, no cleverness at all to revive. There is very little risk involved.

              Compare this to any of the other classes.

              It takes a couple of engineers to take down a decent tank driver. Not to mention that they risk dying each time they pop out to take a shot. Add that to the fact that it takes a good 5-6 seconds to reload each shot. And in addition to that, you're vulnerable to attack from anyone as you're distracted by the tank and having your rocket launcher out instead of your primary. And you're FACING OFF AGAINST A TANK LOL. He has the advantage on you automatically if you go in solo. Add in a pesky repair guy, and you're just wasting rockets.

              Support, same deal. They are completely exposed when attempting to take a tank down. The tank alone can have 3 pairs of eyes that a support guy has to avoid and with any of the passengers can hop out quickly to kill you even if you somehow manage to get close enough to place C4. Factor in the proximity scan, and it can be damn near impossible to take a decent tank driver down. You're usually running out into the open where anybody can see you and can take you out, and you usually die, sacrificing yourself to take one down. Extremely high risk, but high reward if you do manage to take it one down.

              Recons equipment is simple to use. But you never see anyone dominate as a recon because its balanced.

              Assault class revives involve no skill at all. No strategy. No wits. And very little risk.

              You can have a smart/skilled player take out 5 guys in seccession. Then one random dude pops out of hiding and finishes off the guy who only has 5% health remaining after disposing of half the team. Then he proceeds to revive each guy in a span of 5 seconds, effectively wiping out everything the skilled guy did just because he happened to be in the right place at the right time.

              Thats garbage. Again, you can revive an entire team before you can toss two med packs. How does that make any sense?

              I probably wouldnt care so much if reviving was given to another class like Recon or even Support like DBoys mentioned. At least then its a little more balanced because then you'd know that you're more than likely gonna be out gunned by any assault rifle or carbine. So you'd have to be a little more careful when going for the revives.

              As of right now, any doofus can be a tremendous help to the team running around reviving people.
              Last edited by TMagic; 08-18-2012, 05:00 PM.
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              • ANDROMADA 1
                So long to a Legend.
                • Dec 2008
                • 5024

                #10537
                Re: Battlefield 3

                I got kicked for the first time in close combat, LMBO It made my day

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                • ANDROMADA 1
                  So long to a Legend.
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 5024

                  #10538
                  Re: Battlefield 3

                  Originally posted by TMagic
                  Its not about them "doing what they're suppose to do".

                  Its that what they do is, by far, the easiest thing to do in the entire game.

                  It takes no strategy, no cunning, no cleverness at all to revive. There is very little risk involved.

                  Compare this to any of the other classes.

                  It takes a couple of engineers to take down a decent tank driver. Not to mention that they risk dying each time they pop out to take a shot. Add that to the fact that it takes a good 5-6 seconds to reload each shot. And in addition to that, you're vulnerable to attack from anyone as you're distracted by the tank and having your rocket launcher out instead of your primary. And you're FACING OFF AGAINST A TANK LOL. He has the advantage on you automatically if you go in solo. Add in a pesky repair guy, and you're just wasting rockets.

                  Support, same deal. They are completely exposed when attempting to take a tank down. The tank alone can have 3 pairs of eyes that a support guy has to avoid and with any of the passengers can hop out quickly to kill you even if you somehow manage to get close enough to place C4. Factor in the proximity scan, and it can be damn near impossible to take a decent tank driver down. You're usually running out into the open where anybody can see you and can take you out, and you usually die, sacrificing yourself to take one down. Extremely high risk, but high reward if you do manage to take it one down.

                  Recons equipment is simple to use. But you never see anyone dominate as a recon because its balanced.

                  Assault class revives involve no skill at all. No strategy. No wits. And very little risk.

                  You can have a smart/skilled player take out 5 guys in seccession. Then one random dude pops out of hiding and finishes off the guy who only has 5% health remaining after disposing of half the team. Then he proceeds to revive each guy in a span of 5 seconds, effectively wiping out everything the skilled guy did just because he happened to be in the right place at the right time.

                  Thats garbage. Again, you can revive an entire team before you can toss two med packs. How does that make any sense?

                  I probably wouldnt care so much if reviving was given to another class like Recon or even Support like DBoys mentioned. At least then its a little more balanced because then you'd know that you're more than likely gonna be out gunned by any assault rifle or carbine. So you'd have to be a little more careful when going for the revives.

                  As of right now, any doofus can be a tremendous help to the team running around reviving people.

                  Don't hold hold back tell us how you really feel.:wink:

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                  • AUChase
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 19406

                    #10539
                    It depends on how you look at using the defibulator. If you were ever recording me playing assault, I do some crazy dive, revive, dodge, and jump moves... If you're on my squad and you get revived almost immediately after dying, it was probably me. A lot of times, medics won't even bother reviving anyone.

                    Generally speaking, it isn't hard to use, but in some situations, the enemy can prevent you from getting in a position to use it.

                    You still have to be tactical, with the class. If a tank rolls up on me, I'm defenseless. If I have smoke I will spot, distract and move...





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                    Last edited by AUChase; 08-18-2012, 05:17 PM.

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                    • RJTurneR
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2183

                      #10540
                      Re: Battlefield 3

                      I probably wouldnt care so much if reviving was given to another class like Recon or even Support like DBoys mentioned. At least then its a little more balanced because then you'd know that you're more than likely gonna be out gunned by any assault rifle or carbine. So you'd have to be a little more careful when going for the revives.
                      That makes no difference at all. Making the recon guy also the guy who revives people is dumb. Although people don't live up to it's name.. It's called recon for a reason. There is no difference between reviving as an assault and reviving as a support. Different guns, same story. I could easily equip an M249 or LSAT (Which setup right are just glorified assault rifles), and do the exact same.

                      Assault.l class revives involve no skill at all. No strategy. No wits. And very little risk.
                      Can't agree on this either. Skill comes down to the individual. Not the class. Strategy also comes down to the individual or group. Wits/Cleverness/Smartness also comes down to the individual. And little risk? Who keeps the momentum going when all things are about to fail. Who will run out into the open to reach that guy who just died on the other side of the street.

                      You can be a medic and not be very good. Or you can be a medic and not be very good. Both are separated by one thing. How good YOU are.

                      Sorry, but I will have to disagree with you here T.

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                      • TMagic
                        G.O.A.T.
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 7550

                        #10541
                        Originally posted by ANDROMADA 1
                        Don't hold hold back tell us how you really feel.:wink:
                        Lol

                        Its just the one thing that annoys me more than anything else in the game.

                        And (shout out to PB)...



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                        • AUChase
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 19406

                          #10542
                          Re: Battlefield 3

                          I just crunched the numbers and I have finally surpassed my online play time with any other shooter. The closest was Halo 2 and MW2.

                          I'm almost to 10 days. I know some guys have much more, but for me to be playing it almost a year later, that speaks volumes for how good this game has been.

                          I would have had a bunch for Halo 2, but system linking was a big deal, with my friends. I spent a lot of time offine

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                          • TMagic
                            G.O.A.T.
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 7550

                            #10543
                            Originally posted by AUChase89
                            It depends on how you look at using the defibulator. If you were ever recording me playing assault, I do some crazy dive, revive, dodge, and jump moves... If you're on my squad and you get revived almost immediately after dying, it was probably me. A lot of times, medics won't even bother reviving anyone.

                            Generally speaking, it isn't hard to use, but in some situations, the enemy can prevent you from getting in a position to use it.

                            You still have to be tactical, with the class. If a tank rolls up on me, I'm defenseless. If I have smoke I will spot, distract and move... .



                            Sent from my Desire HD
                            See, Im with you here. I pull off those myself. And that I dont mind.

                            But 90% of the revives are not like that.




                            Originally posted by RJTurneR
                            That makes no difference at all. Making the recon guy also the guy who revives people is dumb. Although people don't live up to it's name.. It's called recon for a reason. There is no difference between reviving as an assault and reviving as a support. Different guns, same story. I could easily equip an M249 or LSAT (Which setup right are just glorified assault rifles), and do the exact same.



                            Can't agree on this either. Skill comes down to the individual. Not the class. Strategy also comes down to the individual or group. Wits/Cleverness/Smartness also comes down to the individual. And little risk? Who keeps the momentum going when all things are about to fail. Who will run out into the open to reach that guy who just died on the other side of the street.

                            You can be a medic and not be very good. Or you can be a medic and not be very good. Both are separated by one thing. How good YOU are.

                            Sorry, but I will have to disagree with you here T.
                            Well, when I was talking about giving recon/support revives, I was talking about the guns given to each class. Not necessarily to be tied in with the roles that are implied by their name.

                            And as I mentioned in response to Chase, I'm not talking about the guy the revives where you put your neck on the line to get to a guy. Those happen few and far between.

                            I honestly would have no problem if revives weren't unlimited as they are now. If you only had a set number of pads you could use before having to re up with a support guy, I couldnt care less. Revive a couple guys, you're out and you have to find a ammo crate somewhere and leave the others to die. That'd be balanced. Lol
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                            • AUChase
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 19406

                              #10544
                              Re: Battlefield 3

                              Originally posted by TMagic
                              See, Im with you here. I pull off those myself. And that I dont mind.

                              But 90% of the revives are not like that.






                              Well, when I was talking about giving recon/support revives, I was talking about the guns given to each class. Not necessarily to be tied in with the roles that are implied by their name.

                              And as I mentioned in response to Chase, I'm not talking about the guy the revives where you put your neck on the line to get to a guy. Those happen few and far between.

                              I honestly would have no problem if revives weren't unlimited as they are now. If you only had a set number of pads you could use before having to re up with a support guy, I couldnt care less. Revive a couple guys, you're out and you have to find a ammo crate somewhere and leave the others to die. That'd be balanced. Lol

                              That's not a bad idea at all..

                              It would take some time to get used to, but it would also make sense and I'm on the side that doesn't mine the defib. how it is.

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                              • weeeeeeez
                                MVP
                                • May 2011
                                • 1736

                                #10545
                                I really only use assault if I'm playing a map with no vehicles or a game mode like TDM.
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