Battlefield 3

[Dog]

We should start to stack the perks now. Driver always has reactive, an then build from there


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[Lieutenant Dan]

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We should start to stack the perks now. Driver always has reactive, an then build from there


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I usually have auto-loader equipped, as a driver or a gunner.

[mikenoob]

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I got the last multiplayer trophy yesterday. They bumped down the requirement for mcom defender ribbon to 2 instead of 4 which makes it so much easier. I just need 1 co-op trophy and the rest I could finish up in single player. Anyone want to help me get a platinum? I'm stuck on the sniping mission and it pretty much requires communication.

EDIT: Yes! I thought reactive armor was the 2nd slot, I'm totally okay with swapping out autoloader for reactive armor.

[cranes74us]

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Ohh no wonder... thanks guys!

[Koolie G]

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Just saw where the computer patch will come out tomorrow, March 29 and the Xbox patch is still unannounced.

[Nathan_OS]

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Has anyone been able to back out before the game starts?

[AUChase]

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I've been MIA for a few days, but I should be able to get back on by tomorrow.

I downloaded the update lastnight and going to download the B2K maps tonight.. just been busy with work.

[Kramer5150]

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Man alive....I have never seen so much crying in my life. Has anybody else checked out the Battlelog forums? Soooo many babies crying over the patch it's really pathetic.

IMO....this patch has made the game play so much better,I would venture to guess that it's the USAS frag and vehicle whores that are the most vocal.....again IMO,what this patch has done is make it so these same folks can't sit the whole match in a vehicle and rack up kills without worrying about being destroyed......

Teamwork is more important now,and these "lone wolfs" can't handle it. It also (imo) separates the novice driver from the more experienced. So I've gotta give props to DICE for the patch

[Nathan_OS]

Just saw where the computer patch will come out tomorrow, March 29 and the Xbox patch is still unannounced.

LOL

Here I am thinking that I did something wrong, and Xbox never even got a patch yet. SMH

[Kramer5150]

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Not sure if posted.......

The files I received are more specific than the ones we had access to before.

This is not a full list, I haven't analyzed all the data yet.
All the changes and rest of the info that I can get out of these files will be here soon.

Updates to the topic:
18th Feb.
- Added G3A1 max dmg change
- Categorized accuraccy changes
- Added sniper chest multiplier change
- Added more generic info of attachment changes
- Added shotgun damage changes
19th Feb.
- Added PDW damage changes
20th Feb.
Added G18 dmg drop-off start dist nerf
Added Slug & .44 upper chest damage multiplier
22nd Feb.
Added the changes of new files
23rd Feb.
Added full list of bipod changes
24th Feb.
Added AS VALs Spread change which I had missed for some reason
26th Feb.
Added more attachments

Red - Nerf
Green - Buff
Current value -> Value of first planned files -> Value of current planned files
or if theres only 2 values, it means that there weren't any changes in the last files.

1. Damage changes
Assault Rifles:
All assault rifles except G3A1
Min damage 17 -> 18.4

G3A1
Min Damage 20 -> 22
Max damage 30 -> 34

Carbines
SCAR-H
Min Damage 17 -> 20


LMGs
M60 & M240B
Max damage 30 -> 34
Min damage 20 -> 22

PKP
Min damage 20 -> 22

M249, M27IAR, RPK-74M
Min damage 17 -> 18.4


Sniper rifles
All sniper rifles:
Upper chest damage multiplier 1 -> 1.25 (-> 1.06 for M98b)
Note that all the bolt-action sniper rifles will 1hit kill under distances of 15 meters

M98B
Max damage 95 -> 80 -> 95
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 120 -> 150

All other bolt-action sniper rifles
Max damage 75 -> 80
Min damage 55 -> 59 -> 50
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15 -> 20
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 100 -> 80

All semiautomatic sniper rifles except SKS:
Min damage: 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start distance 12 -> 15

SKS
Dropoff end distance 50 -> 60
Max damage 34 -> 34 -> 43



Shotguns
12g Slug (Auto & Semiauto)
Max damage 50 -> 75
Min damage 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
Upper chest damage multiplier 1.0 -> 1.25

12g Slug (Pump-action)
Min damage 34 -> 37.5 -> 40
Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
Upper chest damage multiplier 1.0 -> 1.25

12g Frag (Auto & Semiauto)
Min direct damage 10 -> 5
Blast damage 30 -> 30 -> 25

12g Frag (Pump-action)
Max direct hit damage 60 -> 67 -> 37.5
Blast damage 30 -> 40 -> 25
Bullet drop 12m/s² -> 15m/s²

12g Buckshot
Max damage 20 -> 12.5 -> 16
Dropoff start dist. 4 -> 8
Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30 -> 25

12g Flechette
Max damage 14.3 -> 11.2 -> 12.5
Min damage 8.4 -> 8 -> 8.4
Dropoff start dist. 12 -> 15 -> 14
Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30



PDWs
P90 & MP7
Min damage 10 -> 11 -> 11.2
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40 -> 46
Drop-off start dist. 15 -> 15 -> 12

PP2000
Min damage 10 -> 12.5

PDW-R
Min damage 12.5 -> 14.3
Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 30

AS VAL
[color=#ADFF2F]Min damage 16.7 -> 18.4
Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4 -> 6
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40

PP-19
Min damage 9.1 -> 12.5
Max damage
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40

UMP-45
Min damage 12.5 -> 13.75



Pistols
G18
Drop-off start dist. 12 -> 8
Drop-off end dist 50 -> 50 -> 40

.44 Magnum
It also gets the new 1.25x upper chest damage multiplier


MP412 Rex
Min damage 25 -> 28




2. Attachments

Fore grip
Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

Basically before it reduced the horizontal recoil by 50%, in these files it reduces h-recoil only ~20-33% depending on weapon.
It also increases the minimum spread 20% ~ 50% depending on stance and weapon.


Suppressor
Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

Suppressors will not reduce the damage anymore.
Now it will reduce the distance where damage starts/stops to drop off instead.
For most weapons it will decrease the min spread by 25% instead of 50%
Although looks like M60 will still have the same 50% effect.


Heavy barrel
Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

For most of the weapons it decreases ADS min spread by 75 or 50% depending on weapon.
Recoil is still increased by 10 or 15% and HIP min spread by 20-25% depending on weapon.

It doesn't make AN94 100% accurate anymore while aiming down the sight.
Reduces ADS min spread by 75% and only increases recoil by 10%, the hip fire penalty is 20% for AN94
G3A1 is same than AN94 except heavy barrel increases recoil 6.7% and hip fire is increased only 14.3%

For few weapons it also makes Spread increase per shot 10% higher.
Edit: which was a bug and has been removed, no spread increase increase anymore.

It will also increase drop-off end distance by 50% making weapons more deadly at ranges between 50m and 90m, depending on weapon.


Flash suppressor
Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

Will decrease recoil by 17 ~ 25% depending on weapon.
For most weapons it increases hip min spread by 20~25% but some weapons don't have any hip accuracy penalty.


Extended magazine
There seems to be extended magazine for AS VAL which didn't exist before.
With ext mag it will have 30 bullets in a mag instead of 20


Bipod
Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc


Laser sight
Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc




3. Accuracy changes

Assault rifles
AEK971
ADS Min Spread, Not moving 0.2 -> 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.3

AK74M
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5

AN94
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.3
FirstSRecoilMul 1.5 -> 2 -> 1.5

F2000
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.26

FAMAS
Recoil left 0.6 -> 0.35
Recoil right 0.6 -> 0.5 -> 0.6
Recoil decrease 15 -> 18
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.6

G3A1
Recoil up 0.55 -> 0.45
FirstSRecoilMul 1.2 -> 1.8 -> 1.4

L85A2
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.2

M416
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.4 -> 2.0




Carbines
AKS74u
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
FirstSRecoilMul 2 2.2 -> -> 1.5

HK53
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
Recoil left 0.3 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.35
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18

SCAR-H
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13

SG553
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.25
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2.2

QBZ-95B
Recoil left 0.5 -> 0.335
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.335
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5




LMGs

M240
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.7

M249
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2.2
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12

M60
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5

MG36
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.8

PKP
Recoil up 0.75 -> 0.65
Recoil decrease 7 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.5
Max spread, ADS, not moving 1 -> 3

Type88
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12
FirstSRecoilMul 1.34 -> 1.5

RPK
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.8
Recoil up 0.35 -> 0.35 -> 0.3

QBB-95
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.37
Recoil left 0.1 -> 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.4 -> 0.2
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13




PDWs
AS VAL
Recoil left 0.2 -> 0.25 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.45 -> 0.3
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.4
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
FirstSRecoiMul 2.0 -> 2.0 -> 0.5
Spread Min Angle, ADS, Moving 1.0 -> 1.5

PDW-R
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5 -> 0.4
Min spread, ADS, moving 0.6 -> 0.8 -> 0.6
Min spread, HIP, not moving
^ Standing 1.5 -> 2 -> 1.5
^ Crouching 1 -> 1.5 -> 1
^ Prone 0.75 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, moving
^ Standing 2 -> 2.5 -> 2
^ Crouching 1.5 -> 2 -> 1.5
^ Prone 1.25 -> 1.5

MP7
Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25

P90
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25

PP-19
Recoil decrease 25 -> 20
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25
Recoil up 0.18 -> 0.18 -> 0.2
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.4 -> 0.3


PP2000
Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25

UMP45
Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25
Spread Inc per shot, crouching & prone 0.1 -> 0.1 -> 0.06




Pistols

G18
Recoil up 0.7 -> 0.5 -> 0.7
Recoil decrease 30 -> 30 -> 20

M9
RecoilDecrease 15 -> 30
Recoil decrease 30 -> 30 -> 20

M93R
Recoil up 0.5 -> 0.4 -> 0.5
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.2
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2

.44 Magnum
Spread increase 0.6 -> 0.3


M1911
Recoil right (standing) 0.3 -> 0.3 -> 0.1
Recoi left (standing) 0 -> 0 -> 0.1
Recoil decrease 7 -> 7 -> 20

MP443
Recoil decrease 15 -> 15 -> 20

http://symthic.com/f/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=471&sid=1c61d720ec7bb6a04d2b8826f1b89481

[Dog]

Re: Battlefield 3

Yeah I posted that a while ago, and there were some other changes to that I believe

[Kramer5150]

Re: Battlefield 3

Yeah I posted that a while ago, and there were some other changes to that I believe

Oh ok,my bad.....

[Dog]

Gentlemen, I present to you......

The Death Tag.




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[sb24]

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Gentlemen, I present to you......

The Death Tag.




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Thats great, cant wait to get mine. Ive only got 45 kills to go just havent been playing as much recently. My knife is my top weapon due to me switching weapons constantly. I have 23 weapons with at least one service star and 12 with at least 2.

[cardinals57]

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Gentlemen, I present to you......

The Death Tag.


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I'm glad I'm not one of those 500 poor souls.