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  • Dog
    aka jnes12/JNes__
    • Aug 2008
    • 11846

    #7981
    We should start to stack the perks now. Driver always has reactive, an then build from there


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    • Lieutenant Dan
      All Star
      • Sep 2007
      • 5679

      #7982
      Re: Battlefield 3

      Originally posted by Dog
      We should start to stack the perks now. Driver always has reactive, an then build from there


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      • mikenoob
        All Star
        • Oct 2007
        • 5545

        #7983
        Re: Battlefield 3

        I got the last multiplayer trophy yesterday. They bumped down the requirement for mcom defender ribbon to 2 instead of 4 which makes it so much easier. I just need 1 co-op trophy and the rest I could finish up in single player. Anyone want to help me get a platinum? I'm stuck on the sniping mission and it pretty much requires communication.

        EDIT: Yes! I thought reactive armor was the 2nd slot, I'm totally okay with swapping out autoloader for reactive armor.
        Last edited by mikenoob; 03-28-2012, 02:42 PM.

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        • cranes74us
          Pro
          • Jun 2003
          • 608

          #7984
          Re: Battlefield 3

          Ohh no wonder... thanks guys!

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          • Koolie G
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 1812

            #7985
            Re: Battlefield 3

            Just saw where the computer patch will come out tomorrow, March 29 and the Xbox patch is still unannounced.
            PSN: Koolie_G
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            • Nathan_OS
              MVP
              • Jun 2011
              • 4465

              #7986
              Re: Battlefield 3

              Has anyone been able to back out before the game starts?
              PSN: MajorJosephx

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              • AUChase
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2008
                • 19404

                #7987
                Re: Battlefield 3

                I've been MIA for a few days, but I should be able to get back on by tomorrow.

                I downloaded the update lastnight and going to download the B2K maps tonight.. just been busy with work.

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                • Kramer5150
                  Medicore Mike
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 7394

                  #7988
                  Re: Battlefield 3

                  Man alive....I have never seen so much crying in my life. Has anybody else checked out the Battlelog forums? Soooo many babies crying over the patch it's really pathetic.

                  IMO....this patch has made the game play so much better,I would venture to guess that it's the USAS frag and vehicle whores that are the most vocal.....again IMO,what this patch has done is make it so these same folks can't sit the whole match in a vehicle and rack up kills without worrying about being destroyed......

                  Teamwork is more important now,and these "lone wolfs" can't handle it. It also (imo) separates the novice driver from the more experienced. So I've gotta give props to DICE for the patch
                  People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
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                  • Nathan_OS
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 4465

                    #7989
                    Originally posted by Koolie G
                    Just saw where the computer patch will come out tomorrow, March 29 and the Xbox patch is still unannounced.
                    LOL

                    Here I am thinking that I did something wrong, and Xbox never even got a patch yet. SMH
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                    • Kramer5150
                      Medicore Mike
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 7394

                      #7990
                      Re: Battlefield 3

                      Not sure if posted.......

                      The files I received are more specific than the ones we had access to before.

                      This is not a full list, I haven't analyzed all the data yet.
                      All the changes and rest of the info that I can get out of these files will be here soon.

                      Updates to the topic:
                      18th Feb.
                      - Added G3A1 max dmg change
                      - Categorized accuraccy changes
                      - Added sniper chest multiplier change
                      - Added more generic info of attachment changes
                      - Added shotgun damage changes
                      19th Feb.
                      - Added PDW damage changes
                      20th Feb.
                      Added G18 dmg drop-off start dist nerf
                      Added Slug & .44 upper chest damage multiplier
                      22nd Feb.
                      Added the changes of new files
                      23rd Feb.
                      Added full list of bipod changes
                      24th Feb.
                      Added AS VALs Spread change which I had missed for some reason
                      26th Feb.
                      Added more attachments

                      Red - Nerf
                      Green - Buff
                      Current value -> Value of first planned files -> Value of current planned files
                      or if theres only 2 values, it means that there weren't any changes in the last files.

                      1. Damage changes
                      Assault Rifles:
                      All assault rifles except G3A1
                      Min damage 17 -> 18.4

                      G3A1
                      Min Damage 20 -> 22
                      Max damage 30 -> 34


                      Carbines
                      SCAR-H
                      Min Damage 17 -> 20



                      LMGs
                      M60 & M240B
                      Max damage 30 -> 34
                      Min damage 20 -> 22


                      PKP
                      Min damage 20 -> 22


                      M249, M27IAR, RPK-74M
                      Min damage 17 -> 18.4



                      Sniper rifles
                      All sniper rifles:
                      Upper chest damage multiplier 1 -> 1.25 (-> 1.06 for M98b)
                      Note that all the bolt-action sniper rifles will 1hit kill under distances of 15 meters


                      M98B
                      Max damage 95 -> 80 -> 95
                      Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15
                      Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 120 -> 150

                      All other bolt-action sniper rifles
                      Max damage 75 -> 80
                      Min damage 55 -> 59 -> 50
                      Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15 -> 20
                      Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 100 -> 80

                      All semiautomatic sniper rifles except SKS:
                      Min damage: 34 -> 37.5
                      Dropoff start distance 12 -> 15

                      SKS
                      Dropoff end distance 50 -> 60
                      Max damage 34 -> 34 -> 43




                      Shotguns
                      12g Slug (Auto & Semiauto)
                      Max damage 50 -> 75
                      Min damage 34 -> 37.5
                      Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
                      Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
                      Upper chest damage multiplier 1.0 -> 1.25

                      12g Slug (Pump-action)
                      Min damage 34 -> 37.5 -> 40
                      Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
                      Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
                      Upper chest damage multiplier 1.0 -> 1.25


                      12g Frag (Auto & Semiauto)
                      Min direct damage 10 -> 5
                      Blast damage 30 -> 30 -> 25


                      12g Frag (Pump-action)
                      Max direct hit damage 60
                      -> 67 -> 37.5
                      Blast damage 30
                      -> 40 -> 25
                      Bullet drop 12m/s² -> 15m/s²


                      12g Buckshot
                      Max damage 20 -> 12.5 -> 16
                      Dropoff start dist. 4 -> 8
                      Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30 -> 25

                      12g Flechette
                      Max damage 14.3 -> 11.2 -> 12.5
                      Min damage 8.4 -> 8 -> 8.4
                      Dropoff start dist. 12 -> 15 -> 14
                      Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30




                      PDWs
                      P90 & MP7
                      Min damage 10 -> 11 -> 11.2
                      Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40 -> 46
                      Drop-off start dist. 15 -> 15 -> 12

                      PP2000
                      Min damage 10 -> 12.5


                      PDW-R
                      Min damage 12.5 -> 14.3
                      Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4
                      Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 30


                      AS VAL
                      [color=#ADFF2F]Min damage 16.7 -> 18.4
                      Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4 -> 6
                      Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40


                      PP-19
                      Min damage 9.1 -> 12.5
                      Max damage

                      Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40

                      UMP-45
                      Min damage 12.5 -> 13.75




                      Pistols
                      G18
                      Drop-off start dist. 12 -> 8
                      Drop-off end dist 50 -> 50 -> 40


                      .44 Magnum
                      It also gets the new 1.25x upper chest damage multiplier


                      MP412 Rex
                      Min damage 25 -> 28




                      2. Attachments

                      Fore grip
                      Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

                      Basically before it reduced the horizontal recoil by 50%, in these files it reduces h-recoil only ~20-33% depending on weapon.
                      It also increases the minimum spread 20% ~ 50% depending on stance and weapon.


                      Suppressor
                      Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

                      Suppressors will not reduce the damage anymore.
                      Now it will reduce the distance where damage starts/stops to drop off instead.
                      For most weapons it will decrease the min spread by 25% instead of 50%
                      Although looks like M60 will still have the same 50% effect.


                      Heavy barrel
                      Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

                      For most of the weapons it decreases ADS min spread by 75 or 50% depending on weapon.
                      Recoil is still increased by 10 or 15% and HIP min spread by 20-25% depending on weapon.

                      It doesn't make AN94 100% accurate anymore while aiming down the sight.
                      Reduces ADS min spread by 75% and only increases recoil by 10%, the hip fire penalty is 20% for AN94
                      G3A1 is same than AN94 except heavy barrel increases recoil 6.7% and hip fire is increased only 14.3%

                      For few weapons it also makes Spread increase per shot 10% higher.
                      Edit: which was a bug and has been removed, no spread increase increase anymore.

                      It will also increase drop-off end distance by 50% making weapons more deadly at ranges between 50m and 90m, depending on weapon.


                      Flash suppressor
                      Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc

                      Will decrease recoil by 17 ~ 25% depending on weapon.
                      For most weapons it increases hip min spread by 20~25% but some weapons don't have any hip accuracy penalty.


                      Extended magazine
                      There seems to be extended magazine for AS VAL which didn't exist before.
                      With ext mag it will have 30 bullets in a mag instead of 20


                      Bipod
                      Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc


                      Laser sight
                      Betaish list of changes: http://symthic.com/sivut/data/?fi=ro...ym&p=root/Misc




                      3. Accuracy changes

                      Assault rifles
                      AEK971
                      ADS Min Spread, Not moving 0.2 -> 0.4
                      -> 0.3
                      Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.3

                      AK74M
                      Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5


                      AN94
                      Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.3
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1.5 -> 2 -> 1.5

                      F2000
                      Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.26


                      FAMAS
                      Recoil left 0.6 -> 0.35
                      Recoil right 0.6 -> 0.5 -> 0.6
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 18
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.6

                      G3A1
                      Recoil up 0.55 -> 0.45
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1.2 -> 1.8 -> 1.4

                      L85A2
                      Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
                      Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
                      Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.2

                      M416
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.4 -> 2.0




                      Carbines
                      AKS74u
                      Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2 2.2 -> -> 1.5

                      HK53
                      Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
                      Recoil left 0.3 -> 0.2
                      Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.35

                      Recoil decrease 22 -> 18

                      SCAR-H
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 13


                      SG553
                      Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.25
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2.2


                      QBZ-95B
                      Recoil left 0.5 -> 0.335
                      Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.335

                      Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
                      Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5





                      LMGs

                      M240
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.7


                      M249
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2.2
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 12


                      M60
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5


                      MG36
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.8


                      PKP
                      Recoil up 0.75 -> 0.65
                      Recoil decrease 7 -> 13

                      FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.5
                      Max spread, ADS, not moving 1 -> 3


                      Type88
                      Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
                      Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.3

                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 12
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1.34 -> 1.5


                      RPK
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.8
                      Recoil up 0.35 -> 0.35 -> 0.3


                      QBB-95
                      Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.37
                      Recoil left 0.1 -> 0.4 -> 0.3
                      Recoil right 0.3
                      -> 0.4 -> 0.2
                      FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 13





                      PDWs
                      AS VAL
                      Recoil left 0.2 -> 0.25 -> 0.2
                      Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.45 -> 0.3
                      Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.4
                      Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
                      FirstSRecoiMul 2.0 -> 2.0 -> 0.5
                      Spread Min Angle, ADS, Moving 1.0 -> 1.5

                      PDW-R
                      Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
                      Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5 -> 0.4
                      Min spread, ADS, moving 0.6 -> 0.8 -> 0.6
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving
                      ^ Standing 1.5 -> 2 -> 1.5
                      ^ Crouching 1 -> 1.5 -> 1
                      ^ Prone 0.75 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, moving
                      ^ Standing 2 -> 2.5 -> 2
                      ^ Crouching 1.5 -> 2 -> 1.5
                      ^ Prone 1.25 -> 1.5

                      MP7
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25

                      P90
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25

                      PP-19
                      Recoil decrease 25 -> 20
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25
                      Recoil up 0.18 -> 0.18 -> 0.2
                      Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.4 -> 0.3
                      Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.4 -> 0.3



                      PP2000
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25

                      UMP45
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, standing 1 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2 -> 1
                      Min spread, HIP, moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5 -> 1.25
                      Spread Inc per shot, crouching & prone 0.1 -> 0.1 -> 0.06




                      Pistols

                      G18
                      Recoil up 0.7 -> 0.5 -> 0.7
                      Recoil decrease 30 -> 30 -> 20

                      M9
                      RecoilDecrease 15 -> 30
                      Recoil decrease 30 -> 30 -> 20

                      M93R
                      Recoil up 0.5 -> 0.4 -> 0.5
                      Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.2
                      Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.2
                      FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2

                      .44 Magnum
                      Spread increase 0.6 -> 0.3


                      M1911
                      Recoil right (standing) 0.3 -> 0.3 -> 0.1
                      Recoi left (standing) 0 -> 0 -> 0.1
                      Recoil decrease 7 -> 7 -> 20

                      MP443
                      Recoil decrease 15 -> 15 -> 20
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                      • Dog
                        aka jnes12/JNes__
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 11846

                        #7991
                        Re: Battlefield 3

                        Yeah I posted that a while ago, and there were some other changes to that I believe
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                        • Kramer5150
                          Medicore Mike
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 7394

                          #7992
                          Re: Battlefield 3

                          Originally posted by Dog
                          Yeah I posted that a while ago, and there were some other changes to that I believe
                          Oh ok,my bad.....
                          People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                          “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                          “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                          • Dog
                            aka jnes12/JNes__
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 11846

                            #7993
                            Gentlemen, I present to you......

                            The Death Tag.




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                            • sb24
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3165

                              #7994
                              Re: Battlefield 3

                              Originally posted by Dog
                              Gentlemen, I present to you......

                              The Death Tag.




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                              Thats great, cant wait to get mine. Ive only got 45 kills to go just havent been playing as much recently. My knife is my top weapon due to me switching weapons constantly. I have 23 weapons with at least one service star and 12 with at least 2.

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                              • cardinals57
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 792

                                #7995
                                Re: Battlefield 3

                                Originally posted by Dog
                                Gentlemen, I present to you......

                                The Death Tag.


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                                I'm glad I'm not one of those 500 poor souls.

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