Mass Effect 3

[mikenoob]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Anyone who finished the geth part:

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What the F do I do against this reaper? I've rolled to avoid his lasers like 4 times, but I have no idea exactly what I should be doing. I'm trying to poin the laser thing at him, but I don't think it's even doing anything.

[SECElit3]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Anyone who finished the geth part:

Spoiler

What the F do I do against this reaper? I've rolled to avoid his lasers like 4 times, but I have no idea exactly what I should be doing. I'm trying to poin the laser thing at him, but I don't think it's even doing anything.

Spoiler

The targeting system does not reset itself. Run from side to side. Do not roll. When you see the laser start to fire, run. Turn and target the reaper. Rinse and repeat! You will see the beam does not reset, and eventually it homes in on the reaper.

[The 24th Letter]

I think it's awesome the Protheans have Jamaican accents...

[Drewski]

Re: Mass Effect 3

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I completely don't understand where you're coming from SEC, anyone in this thread who has voiced an opinion on disliking the ending has never said "DANG I'M SO MAD SHEPARD DIDNT LIVE". In fact, multiple times I personally have stated I fully expected Shepard to DIE in the process of this game.

Instead the writers throw a wrench into the whole series that doesn't line up with the rest of it. The ending feels so entirely out of place it cannot begin to make sense. The plot holes myself, Pokes, and others have brought up have nothing to do with Shepard dying, which is where you have been hammering.

I completely understand what they were trying to accomplish with the end, I'd appreciate if you refrained from calling me shallow and unable to understand the ending. You have a different opinion, that's fine people do, but those of "us" here that are against the ending have every reason to feel cheated by the ending. It makes no sense in tune with the rest of the series. The aftermath is trash (Joker crashing in a weird civilization,with the two squad members I brought with me to Earth who should also have been hit by the beam? Ironically both Dextro's [Garrus and Tali] likely will starve on an island without the food that they require). I'm fully aware of the "after the credits" Stargazer scene, which is fine and dandy, but doesn't really do much for me. I'm glad they acknowledge the legend of Shepard, as damn well they should with everything he's done for the galaxy. If they really wanted to strike a chord, though, they should have had someone uncover Liara's "Shepard box" on top of all of that. Or perhaps have the Kid/Grandpa going through that.

They could have left Shepard with those three choices, with a more reasonable explanation other than what the Catalyst pushes Shepard into, and it could have still been "ok". But there is no epilogue, no explanation of the effects your "choice" just made, a weird crash, and for some a scene of Shepard's shoulder moving and him gasping for air in a heap of rubble that that leaves a ton of questions. For a series that was supposed to tie it all together in the last game and not leave questions, they left a ton of questions and holes.

As for the Citadel picture, I completely understand what the Citadel was made for, according to this games last few minutes. Just thought it was funny regardless. The Citadel, in the first game, was revealed as the gate that would allow the Reapers to get the drop on Organic life. In this game it is now a device that is controlled by the almighty power that apparently controls his solution, the Reapers, which leaves a weird plothole to begin with.

[Drewski]

Re: Mass Effect 3

I think it's awesome the Protheans have Jamaican accents...

Javik is that dude for sure. Liked his character alot. Was a good contrast to alot of different things. Also...

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The scene with Garrus when you're taking the shots on top of the Presidium is probably my favorite part of the game. Garrus has always been my Shep's right hand man so it was just so damn fitting. Like Shep says on Priority Earth, there's no Shepard without Vakarian. (I missed the shot on purpose).

[TracerBullet]

Re: Mass Effect 3

I think it's awesome the Protheans have Nigerian accents...

Fixed.

/jmood

[The 24th Letter]

Fixed.

/jmood

I just realized what he was trying to say

True, more Nigerian

[SECElit3]

Re: Mass Effect 3

This is what gets me. In browsing around the internet, reading various forums, and getting a sense of the various perspectives gamers have on the ending, apparently some gamers are demanding Bioware change the ending.

This new "I play the game, so I am entitled to the ending I want" just gets me. Now, if the game were riddled with bugs, crashes, etc, I see grounds for this type of attitude. How is it that we are entitled to have any game end the way we want? Where does this sense of entitlement come from?

Bioware invested millions of dollars into making this game. They did the programming. They wrote the story. When is it the gamer's place to tell how the story should be written?

Sure, we buy the game and play it, and ultimately we are the ones who keep the company in business. However, we received what Bioware promised, which was a great game that gave each of us, 30+ hours of entertainment, with a truly great ending to a truly great story.

We may not like the ending. I haven't liked the ending of many great games and movies. Gears of War 3 was one of them. However, what is going on with Mass Effect is a little over the top.

The attitude of this new generation of people just kills me.

[LambertandHam]

Re: Mass Effect 3

So thinking about the ending a little...

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The Catalyst, is he the only one of his kind, or are there more? They way it talks about synthetic vs organic life makes me think it had first hand experience. Maybe that's why the Reapers are a "nation onto themselves" and are full AI's.

I still don't get why out of fear that this Catalyst decided to make hundreds to thousands of Reapers and basically use the galaxy as his own plaything.

[Drewski]

Re: Mass Effect 3

This is what gets me. In browsing around the internet, reading various forums, and getting a sense of the various perspectives gamers have on the ending, apparently some gamers are demanding Bioware change the ending.

This new "I play the game, so I am entitled to the ending I want" just gets me. Now, if the game were riddled with bugs, crashes, etc, I see grounds for this type of attitude. How is it that we are entitled to have any game end the way we want? Where does this sense of entitlement come from?

Bioware invested millions of dollars into making this game. They did the programming. They wrote the story. When is it the gamer's place to tell how the story should be written?

Sure, we buy the game and play it, and ultimately we are the ones who keep the company in business. However, we received what Bioware promised, which was a great game that gave each of us, 30+ hours of entertainment, with a truly great ending to a truly great story.

We may not like the ending. I haven't liked the ending of many great games and movies. Gears of War 3 was one of them. However, what is going on with Mass Effect is a little over the top.

The attitude of this new generation of people just kills me.

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End of the day, to me, I'm completely dissatisfied with the ending and even if they "change" the ending it won't change the aftertaste of reaching the conclusion to the trilogy the first time. What's been seen cannot be unseen.

There is a "gamer entitlement" issue, but I don't think this is it. Some people do want the ending THEY want, I personally just want an ending that makes sense and doesn't leave more questions than answers (something they said repeatedly). The ending doesn't even feel like it belongs in this series, to me, writing, lore, bla bla bla wise. Doesn't even feel like Mass Effect.

Waiting to hear some official responses from Bioware anxiously to see what they have to say. Don't think they owe anyone anything, the game was a masterpiece to me until the very end. Just... wondering what they have to say about the ending and the future of the franchise (DLC etc). Also don't think I've ever seen the "gaming community" come together as it has in regards to this ending being shoddy at best.

Some people do like it. I cleared out the synthetics and made sure the Reapers were dead no matter what personally, that's how I justify it in my head. Despite all the other pieces of the ending, the one thing I can be satisfied with is my Shepard's resolve never bent and I ended The Reapers without being swayed by some random unknown entity that manifest's itself as the child that haunts Shepard (how did this Catalyst know what was in Shep's head? There are some interesting theories being crafted out there that I'm not even going to begin getting into.), giving the galaxy I just united a chance to grow together and rebuild (if possible without Mass Relays. Seems iffy). Shepard's goal has always been to defeat The Reapers, I don't trust that "controlling" The Reapers would have guaranteed anything long term, and the synthetic route didn't have enough information for me to feel comfortable doing it. Plus, isn't that what the Reapers always wanted? To have the Humans and Organics "ascend"? Mission successful, Reapers have been destroyed. I'm cool with that, sort of. The rest though? The plot holes? Not sitting well with me still.

[Drewski]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Also, credit to the composers. They had a great score and this was their first crack at the series. Impressed with what they did, and the main piano theme is probably one of the best I've heard.

More RE: Ending.

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Wow, they cut half of this dialog out from Shep/Anderson scene at the end? Was a powerful scene as it was and not complaining, just surprised they shortened it when they had this all put together already. <object height="315" width="560">


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[DGuinta1]

Re: Mass Effect 3

So the ending is the same whether you go more good then bad or visa v?

[goh]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Anyone purchase the armor that looks like Iron Man? I think it's called Firesomethingorother and I got it through the procurement computer in the Shuttle Bay of the Normandy.

While I haven't read any spoilers in here, I wish I had missed the part where people are complaining about the ending. Now my imagination is trying to figure it out.

That's from ME 2. Inferno Armor.
I made my own from the parts that are there instead of using that again,it's Tron inspired.

This new "I play the game, so I am entitled to the ending I want" just gets me. Now, if the game were riddled with bugs, crashes, etc, I see grounds for this type of attitude. How is it that we are entitled to have any game end the way we want? Where does this sense of entitlement come from?

I have no opinion on the endings yet as I haven't seen them,just the general description to know which to go for but I know where it comes from. Because for THREE games people have been working their *** off to ensure the ending they wanted. Those choices were supposed to effect the outcome. Now people have given up characters they loved,even having to pull the trigger themselves in some cases like shooting Wrex in ME 1,wiped out entire species,went through a ton of diplomatic buuuuulllllll and whatever else and when they get to the end they feel all that wasn't worth anything.

Wonder what would've happend if they just had a black screen that said "thanks for playing" like a NES game?

[mikenoob]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Lame... I can't even play with people who have a disc based mass effect. The downloadable version had a 1.02 patch the other day, but the disc stayed on 1.01. Everytime I try to join a friend's it says he has a different version or patch, please update to latest one.

[AUChase]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Finally able to pick this up.. can't wait to play it.