Mass Effect 3

[bukktown]

Re: Mass Effect 3

What are your guys opinions on this big "ME3's Ending Sucks" debate going on? There's people even going to lengths demanding them to redo it...

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-petition-raises-40k-criticisms.aspx

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Mass Effect 3

So I finished the game a little while ago, and I'm conflicted...

spoilers...

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I chose the "control" option. I was actually enjoying the ending until they showed the Normandy, after which it's basically a cut to black. What happened? I controlled the reapers, but where is the crew of the Normandy?What happened with the reapers on Earth? What did controlling them do? And why did the fact that I was nearly full paragon not really seem to matter?
I became more agitated when I watch the other "16" endings online and saw they were all basically the same. That's silly. Have 2 endings. Control or destroy, and have them be DIFFERENT. The worst thing about the ending, though, is the way it just...ends. If that's the climax of the story, where's my emotional resolution? Where's the celebration from the forces on Earth and the resolution of what has basically been 100 hours of story? The ending was way too short.

I will say this, too. If it is the case that they planned something crazy for DLC in order to keep people from trading in the game, and it does something to alter the ending on the disc, I'll probably never buy a bioware game ever again.

Watch this Video:

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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4H_A7SeawU4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That video pretty much sums up my whole feeling about the ending and the suppose to be 16 different endings. I really feel like I was Soprano'ed. The ending DEFIES the over all theme of the whole series.

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[jmood88]

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Penny arcade on the ending: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/03/...urce=pulsenews

[SlimKibbles]

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Penny arcade on the ending: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2012/03/...urce=pulsenews

It's that guy's opinion but it seems rather worthless. Maybe Bioware and EA were hoping for more gamers like that guy who would just take the ending as is and not question anything.

Again, I have yet to see this ending but after reading everything the last couple of days, it feels like I experienced it already like most of the rest of you.

[bukktown]

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I haven't even played the game. I was going to wait until summer when I can devote a good week to it alone. But all of the controversy makes me want to play it real bad.

I'm even tempted to just grab a diet Dew and a bag of Fritos and read this entire thread, spoilers be damned!

[mrprice33]

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One other thing regarding the characters in the game...

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Ashley and Vega were complete wastes of time. With Ashley there's none of the racism that made her so interesting in the first game, and Vega is a standard bro with a weird homo-erotic streak. lames.

[Sandman42]

Re: Mass Effect 3

So I finished the game a little while ago, and I'm conflicted...

spoilers...

Spoiler

I chose the "control" option. I was actually enjoying the ending until they showed the Normandy, after which it's basically a cut to black. What happened? I controlled the reapers, but where is the crew of the Normandy?What happened with the reapers on Earth? What did controlling them do? And why did the fact that I was nearly full paragon not really seem to matter?
I became more agitated when I watch the other "16" endings online and saw they were all basically the same. That's silly. Have 2 endings. Control or destroy, and have them be DIFFERENT. The worst thing about the ending, though, is the way it just...ends. If that's the climax of the story, where's my emotional resolution? Where's the celebration from the forces on Earth and the resolution of what has basically been 100 hours of story? The ending was way too short.

I will say this, too. If it is the case that they planned something crazy for DLC in order to keep people from trading in the game, and it does something to alter the ending on the disc, I'll probably never buy a bioware game ever again.

Just read this...ugh

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Turns out the Reapers are morons.

The Reason they're doing this whole cycle of extinctions thing is because they believe a technological singularity will inevitably cause AI's to be created, and that these AI's will see organics as too different to them to be related to, are thus a threat, and so will wipe out all organics on principal.

Apparently they think this way because they were built by an ancient race who suffered a Skynet like catastrophe.

These aliens were pricks.

Rather than think they might have made a mistake when building this AI, handled their introductions badly, or just decided not to build anymore AI's, these ancient aliens decided synthetic life itself was at fault, because it couldn't possibly be anything else, and created The Reapers to kill all organic species before they got to a stage of technological advancement where they might start building AI's.

To sum up: they created machines that would wipe out all organic life in the galaxy, in order to prevent machines wiping out all organic life in the galaxy.

Now, this wasn't the original motivation for the Reapers. Originally, they were meant to be preventing dark energy coming in from outside the galaxy from prematurely causing all stars to die. That's why we had so many references to dark energy in ME2. The Reapers acted as giant energy sinks, which is why they sit outside the galaxy for 50,000 years, to act as a shirld. However, as time goes on the amount of Dark Energy increases, so they need to harvest more species to create more Reapers, hence the cycle. The reason they use intelligent species is to use the victims brain as a hive minded organic computer, in the holes of comming up with a more permanent solution eventually.

The end of the game would have given Shepard the choice of either blowing the Reapers apart and hoping everyone can come up with a new way to stop Dark Energy, or bargaining the Reapers down to just taking Humans for a new Reaper, and leaving everyone else alone.

Then ME1&2 Lead Writer Drew Karpyshyn left to work on SWTOR, and Mac Walter took over.

And apparently Mac is an appalling writer.

Not least of all for failing to remember that a significant portion of the last two games was spent teaching us that AI's are not inherently evil, and ME 3 proves the Reapers are wrong by having 2 AI's willing to live peacefully with organics, EDI and the Geth.

Hell, EDI even shags Joker. Which might kill him, but not intentionally.

So basically the Reapers entire motivation is flat out wrong, and means they're just irrational machines incapable of reasoning or thinking outside their programming, built by a bunch of insane, arrogant cowards.

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The dark energy ending was supposedly in the leaked beta that got out months ago. I guess Bioware tried to rush to change it. I don't know why they needed to change it though. Those who wanted to be surprised obviously would avoid the spoilers and wait until the game was out.

[mrprice33]

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and thematically it would have made much more sense.

Rock, Paper, Shotgun's take..http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012...nd-of-an-epic/

[AUChase]

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Screw you guys and your massive amount of spoilers! I do appreciate you not ruining anything for me, though..


I'm only about 7 1/2 hours played, but I'll get to it eventually. I'm just being very thorough with my first play through and trying to grasp everything. It's been very action packed thus far and I've all ready had to make a few interesting decisions. I hope I actually enjoy the ending, but it looks like there's a chance I could be disappointed..

[Flawless]

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4 Krogans in multiplayer is an experience - everyone just charging around with reckless abandon and constantly shouting, "I am Krogan!".

[mrprice33]

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There are a few quibbles here and there but it's apparent they had no idea how to end the story. Saving the "ending" for DLC, if true,would one of the worst things that's ever been done to gamers, IMO.

[mrprice33]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Also, when you consider the ending of part 2...

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not fighting harbinger, weird human-reaper skeleton thing

It's apparent that BioWare has a talented team of writers who have no clue how to end a game.

[AUChase]

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How do you guys feel about the scopes for guns ?

I have a love-hate relationship with them. It seems to do a lot of good, when it comes to getting headshots, but it seems to distract me from the battle going on .,,

[Gotmadskillzson]

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How do you guys feel about the scopes for guns ?

I have a love-hate relationship with them. It seems to do a lot of good, when it comes to getting headshots, but it seems to distract me from the battle going on .,,

I don't bother with them. SMG with armor piercing ammo or any kind of special ammo and I wreck havoc on everybody, including Atlus mechs.

[thaima1shu]

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My Vindicator with the scope, increased stability, and fully upgraded warp ammo was WRECKING enemies. Didn't matter if they had barriers, shields, or armor ... destroyed. It was great.