Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

[sven]

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Overwatch is pretty effin crazy.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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I don't think MW3 is flawless by any means. And I do think they consciously went out to make the game more accessible (and why would they want that?). I dislike weapon proficiencies, deathstreaks, and akimbo as much as anyone. I just don't dislike the killstreaks. If you use support package, you get rewarded at 14 skills with a stealth bomber that will probably get you 1 or 2 kills, unless the other team is huddled together and doesn't move out of the way when they hear it coming. I just don't see the big deal. And EMP has never bothered me much. Do I think they should have made it slightly harder to get them? Maybe. But most of you guys, I'm guessing, play the objective games where it's easier to rack up kills. If you play deathmatch, even getting to 20 kills isn't bad at all. If they had made it so it took 18 kills to get a bomber and 22 to get EMP, I doubt anyone would ever use it in deathmatch (which happens to be the most popular gamemode). The people that rack up that kind of score with any kind of regularity in deathmatch are probably using assault.

My point was just that killstreaks weren't any worse in MW3 than CoD4. I didn't say the other flaws weren't there. And the lag comp has, from my experiences, vastly improved in the last two months or so.

The problem becomes when atleast 3 members of one team uses assault, but it is what it is. I see your point also.

Check this out. I just stumbled across this.

They are trying to create a MW Black out day. A day when everyone does not play the game to send a message across to Activision that they want certain features fixed.

Here is the link.
http://www.gamersdailynews.com/artic...-the-Game.html

I dont see a day making a dent at all. It's not GASOLINE we are talking about here .

If they want to make a point it needs to be a month, or boycott it till what is ask for is delivered.

Then something will happen.

[Methlab]

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I' am so with you on this. I was really not feeling that Ghost Recon went to 3rd or is it 2nd person over first person, but Im willing to give it a shot. Recon was always about realsim.

Yes agree, I prefer 1st person.

But it looks like you do get 1st person views when shooting, so I believe it may be a hybrid of views.

I loved how Vegas did 3rd person when you were behind corners..to be honest, that cover system is so much more real. Thats how we would really shoot at people instead of jumping up and down and quickly falling down, doing the centipede..etc.

I do love the smoothness and frame rate of COD..its incredible. I just am burnt out and need something new.

[DonkeyJote]

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Yes agree, I prefer 1st person.

But it looks like you do get 1st person views when shooting, so I believe it may be a hybrid of views.

I loved how Vegas did 3rd person when you were behind corners..to be honest, that cover system is so much more real. Thats how we would really shoot at people instead of jumping up and down and quickly falling down, doing the centipede..etc.

I do love the smoothness and frame rate of COD..its incredible. I just am burnt out and need something new.

A cover system that stayed in 1st person would be more real. But I hated how in Vegas you could go behind a corner and still be able to see. It never made any sense to me. And the static spawns (which made for some serious spawn camping) bugged me a lot. It was still a great game though, and I played it like crazy.

[Methlab]

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Yes that is a good point. A cover system in general is more real then nothing though, but it could be refined.

It just makes you play the game more realistically.

[sven]

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People don't want realism. They want 12 people in perpetual motion. Anyone who uses cover or plays with any intelligence is a camping *****. It's a sad statement but most people who play these games really do think like El Presador.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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People don't want realism. They want 12 people in perpetual motion. Anyone who uses cover or plays with any intelligence is a camping *****. It's a sad statement but most people who play these games really do think like El Presador.

I say eff them. Play the style that works for you. Who is to say running around like a madman is the right and smart way to play??? To each their own.

I personally mix it up. lag comp forces me to camp some when Im on the wrong side of it. I have no choice when that happens. every one on one is not in my favor. 1.5 seconds behind its pretty obvious your chances are not good.

[sven]

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Oh I do. I just laugh and point out the stupidity of ripping on my gameplay when they went 5-12 and I went 22-1.

[Stormyhog]

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I say eff them. Play the style that works for you. Who is to say running around like a madman is the right and smart way to play??? To each their own.

I personally mix it up. lag comp forces me to camp some when Im on the wrong side of it. I have no choice when that happens. every one on one is not in my favor. 1.5 seconds behind its pretty obvious your chances are not good.

I agree and I tend to stick and move when going around the map. If I know someone is coming around the corner I tend to take cover to get the upper hand even then it is hard because of the lag comp. Why run around out in the open like a headless chicken to be a target. Also I hate when they see someone behind cover and call it head glitching tha's bs.. I never just stay in one spot for the duration of a match that to me is the true definition of camping. If people want to run around with no care go ahead but don't tell a more defensive gamer he is playing wrong just because his style is different. As long as people aren't cheating than you can play however you like. The lag comp to me has really ruined the game though as nothing is as it seems and is way out of synch.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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Yes agree, I prefer 1st person.

But it looks like you do get 1st person views when shooting, so I believe it may be a hybrid of views.

I loved how Vegas did 3rd person when you were behind corners..to be honest, that cover system is so much more real. Thats how we would really shoot at people instead of jumping up and down and quickly falling down, doing the centipede..etc.

I do love the smoothness and frame rate of COD..its incredible. I just am burnt out and need something new.

Yes that right it has two views depending on your actions. I can live with that, and may be the choice in the future who knows. A combination of the two.

Your so right there. A cover system is much more realistic, and the smoothness of COD is what makes COD, if battlefield had it then battleField would be my choice.

The engine they use for COD is great. Produces such a smooth gameplay for a 1st person shooter.

Oh I do. I just laugh and point out the stupidity of ripping on my gameplay when they went 5-12 and I went 22-1.

Exactly. Why should we that choose to play strategically change. When it is the mindless ones running around that need to adjust.

I agree and I tend to stick and move when going around the map. If I know someone is coming around the corner I tend to take cover to get the upper hand even then it is hard because of the lag comp. Why run around out in the open like a headless chicken to be a target. Also I hate when they see someone behind cover and call it head glitching tha's bs.. I never just stay in one spot for the duration of a match that to me is the true definition of camping. If people want to run around with no care go ahead but don't tell a more defensive gamer he is playing wrong just because his style is different. As long as people aren't cheating than you can play however you like. The lag comp to me has really ruined the game though as nothing is as it seems and is way out of synch.

Yea the head glitch. That makes absoultely no sense. Your taking cover and exposing as little of your body as possible. How is that a glitch?

The other funny one is hard scope. Now if you use a sniper rifle the real way they call you out for hard scoping LMAO!!!

I tell them all day everyday player , and there's notihg you can do about it!

[edwing]

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Yea the head glitch. That makes absoultely no sense. Your taking cover and exposing as little of your body as possible. How is that a glitch?

The other funny one is hard scope. Now if you use a sniper rifle the real way they call you out for hard scoping LMAO!!!

I tell them all day everyday player , and there's notihg you can do about it!

The hard scoping I agree with since that should be the proper way to go about sniping. However, head glitching is kind of a touchy subject because all you can see is about half a head, but for some stupid reason, the guy can be shooting at you through the box or whatever's in front of him without any part of his upper body being exposed. I find that to be thoroughly ridiculous.

[DGuinta1]

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I am really enjoying the SP. What a ride!

[sven]

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Man the portable radar on maps like Resistance, Arkaden, and Village or any map with a major hot spot is almost like cheating.

I am really enjoying the SP. What a ride!

The what now?

[bukktown]

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Well said. MW3 was made to aid those that are not good at the game period. Giving them a role in victory. which is a horrible idea.

Being able to have a kill streaks by just reaching a certain amount of kills is a horrible idea.

You can go 20 and 25 and be rewarded. Robert Bowling like I said might have been a nice guy personally. Him and his team made very poor decisions with MW3.

Poor Decisions made with this title:

Assault Kill Streaks.

Specialist. Would have been fine if they did not give you every single perk when you hit specialist. It should just be the ones you have chosen, Picking the perks of choice should matter. How hard is it to get 8 kills in a row??? Not that hard. Now you are given every perk possible cause of it. Takes away from having to make a solid decision from the gamer.

Proficiencies

Kick Range Damage impact. All bad ideas and takes away from the fact that you have to learn how to handle all weapons characteristics. I can take a light machine gun and work it like a assault rifle with a combination of perks and a proficiency. Simply with the kick proficiency, lone wolf, and with Quick draw. I moving around with no problem with a light machine gun.

That could not be done on COD4. You had to be nice with that weapon.

Let's not forget adding range or damage to a shotgun how extremely powerful it is.

Now let's talk akimbo weapons. They decided to make it that both weapons while in two separate hands can shoot bullets at the same time right down the middle. Are you kidding me????? How unreal is this?!

Death streaks. Lets reward the ones that are being killed numerous times by helping them kill a person while they are about to die. Giving them last stand with a primary weapon, and they also decided to give them C4. Not respecting the fact that a good player who is earning his kill streak can now be killed by a scrub, and end the good players kill streak.
That is very unfair. How long have players been asking for last stand to be removed??? Since COD4.

LAG COMP. We already know how badly this was implemented in this game. No need for me to list information on this. It's disgusting how they decided to incorporate this into the game.

I have more to add but I believe this is enough to prove on the bad decisions that were made with MW3.




I was going to try and have a discussion with you on the two version between COD4 and MW3, but I can see it would not really matter.

You do not seem like the type of person what would be open to admitting if someone brings up a valid point, so I'll just let you be, and allow you to enoy MW3 over COD4. You have that right, and made it clear that you will be standing your ground.

Just one thing I would like to say. Whether you agree or not. MW3 is a game made to aid those that can not play too well, while COD4 did no such thing. It took skills with COD4 and with MW3 it does not.

All that really matters in MW3 is what side of the lag comp you are on.

The last sentence that you wrote is the #1 issue with this game if you are a good player.

The more skilled player should win EVERY 1v1 battle, all other things being equal.

If you are on the wrong side of the lag comp then you have to try to avoid them. You have to avoid what should be the biggest separator of skill.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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The hard scoping I agree with since that should be the proper way to go about sniping. However, head glitching is kind of a touchy subject because all you can see is about half a head, but for some stupid reason, the guy can be shooting at you through the box or whatever's in front of him without any part of his upper body being exposed. I find that to be thoroughly ridiculous.

You do have a valid point there. I didn't notice it till you mentioned it. If only your head is showing then how is the gamer able to shoot you? Where is the gun?

I agree with you 100% on this.

The last sentence that you wrote is the #1 issue with this game if you are a good player.

The more skilled player should win EVERY 1v1 battle, all other things being equal.

If you are on the wrong side of the lag comp then you have to try to avoid them. You have to avoid what should be the biggest separator of skill.

I mentioned this a long time ago in this thread, and some thought I was just making excuses. They now realize what I was talking about and realize I was not making excuses just stated the facts.

I just can't give myself props for doing good in this game when I know its only because lag comp was on my side. In COD4, MW2, and Black Ops when I played well I just played well. It had nothing to do with lag comp.