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  • RedPhazon8
    Pro
    • Aug 2011
    • 608

    #2446
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

    Yeah, getting thrown into matches that are already lost are pretty disappointing. It would be nice if they had like some preview system where you can see the scores of the match before you enter it. So you can decide to turn down that game or accept it.

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    • Tyrant8RDFL
      MVP
      • Feb 2004
      • 3563

      #2447
      Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

      Originally posted by dan_457
      One beef I definitely have is team balancing. Every time I get in a match it looks like...

      P1 3200
      P2 2800
      P3 2100
      P4 1400
      P5 600
      P6 400

      P1 2100
      P2 1200
      P3 200
      P4 0
      P5 0
      P6 0

      It's like it deliberately stacks teams some times.

      Also, played drop zone the first time today. That **** is crazy. Things blowing up everywhere.
      This is all do to the fact how one team is given a better connection than the other team. I stated this a while back.

      It's not who is better , but what team has the better connection that is going to win. Skills is not really a factor unfortuntely.

      Now dont get me worng there are some very skillfull players out there, but the connection and how it is distributed makes the games very lopsided.
      Last edited by Tyrant8RDFL; 01-04-2012, 08:05 AM.
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      • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
        Next Miami Great
        • Dec 2008
        • 4285

        #2448
        Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

        I love hearing people on my team bitch about people on the other team camping etc. If they are camping like you say then it should be easier to kill them.

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        • Buckeyes_Doc
          In Dalton I Trust
          • Jan 2009
          • 11918

          #2449
          Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

          Originally posted by Tyrant8RDFL
          This is all do to the fact how one team is given a better connection than the other team. I stated this a while back.

          It's not who is better , but what team has the better connection that is going to win. Skills is not really a factor unfortuntely.


          Now dont get me worng there are some very skillfull players out there, but the connection and how it is distributed makes the games very lopsided.
          IMO I think this is BS. Yes connection is important but you're kidding yourself if you think skill is not a factor. So my kills, reading the map, playing strategically to help my team and winning has nothing to do with my skills but the connection? Skill is just as important as connection. If you put a team of players who have had the game since release date against a team of players who have had the game since Christmas, I guarantee you the players with more skill and experience would win 9/10 times. Play against a team of guys that work together as a team and communicate and they will dominate. Skill is a factor.
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          • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
            Next Miami Great
            • Dec 2008
            • 4285

            #2450
            Originally posted by Buckeyes_Doc
            IMO I think this is BS. Yes connection is important but you're kidding yourself if you think skill is not a factor. So my kills, reading the map, playing strategically to help my team and winning has nothing to do with my skills but the connection? Skill is just as important as connection. If you put a team of players who have had the game since release date against a team of players I guarantee you the players with more skill and expereince would win 9/10 times. Skill is a factor.
            Agreed 100% with this. People over use the connection issue when they play poorly.

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            • Buckeyes_Doc
              In Dalton I Trust
              • Jan 2009
              • 11918

              #2451
              Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

              Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
              Agreed 100% with this. People over use the connection issue when they play poorly.

              Sent from Jesus EVO
              It's either the connection was bad or the other team was camping. No one ever has a bad game, or simply gets beat because the other team has more skill.
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              • sharks
                Pro
                • Jul 2008
                • 690

                #2452
                Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                I don't really feel outplayed when a big lag spike occurs as I'm shooting someone. Or when they skip 10 feet ahead of where they were.
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                • Buckeyes_Doc
                  In Dalton I Trust
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11918

                  #2453
                  Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                  Originally posted by sharks
                  I don't really feel outplayed when a big lag spike occurs as I'm shooting someone. Or when they skip 10 feet ahead of where they were.
                  That does occur, no one is saying it does not. It does not occur every time. But what about the others times when someone has a better position then you and kills you. Is that not skill?
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                  • Cre8
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1587

                    #2454
                    Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                    Originally posted by Buckeyes_Doc
                    That does occur, no one is saying it does not. It does not occur every time. But what about the others times when someone has a better position then you and kills you. Is that not skill?
                    I think skill is rather subjective and depends on the person playing the game and how they play the game.

                    If someone has good position and people keep coming out in front of him and get their face shot off - that could be called skill. If you are the person getting shot, you would/might call it camping.

                    I am typically running around the map with my Assault Rifle or SMG and wreaking havoc. Some people think there is no skill to that and I use over-powered guns.... it is a circular argument and skill rests in the eye of the beholder.

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                    • Buckeyes_Doc
                      In Dalton I Trust
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 11918

                      #2455
                      Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                      Originally posted by Cre8
                      I think skill is rather subjective and depends on the person playing the game and how they play the game.

                      If someone has good position and people keep coming out in front of him and get their face shot off - that could be called skill. If you are the person getting shot, you would/might call it camping.

                      I am typically running around the map with my Assault Rifle or SMG and wreaking havoc. Some people think there is no skill to that and I use over-powered guns.... it is a circular argument and skill rests in the eye of the beholder.
                      That is true. But I think skill is involved in pretty much everything we do everyday, and that would include video games. If skill was not at all a factor in this game, and results were only based on connection then why play? Why even choose a set-up or try to "camp" or "run and gun". It doesn't matter what you do, only if you have a better connection then the other guy, right? If skill wasn't a factor in MW3 I wouldn't see thousands of people playing it everyday.
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                      • Stormyhog
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 5304

                        #2456
                        Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                        Originally posted by Buckeyes_Doc
                        That is true. But I think skill is involved in pretty much everything we do everyday, and that would include video games. If skill was not at all a factor in this game, and results were only based on connection then why play? Why even choose a set-up or try to "camp" or "run and gun". It doesn't matter what you do, only if you have a better connection then the other guy, right? If skill wasn't a factor in MW3 I wouldn't see thousands of people playing it everyday.
                        Another thing that gives an unfair advantage is the use of modded controllers.
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                        • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                          Next Miami Great
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4285

                          #2457
                          I mean at the end of the day its a video game but I feel I'm naturally good at every online shooter. Mw3, killzone 3, blackops, r6v2, bf3. Either everyone I ever played is lagging or I'm just skilled.

                          People get mad oh how did he kill me I shot first. Well in mw3 we have a stupid thing called perks. Maybe he had quickdraw an was able to get his gun in position to aim faster then you. Oh you hear people cry how did he find me. Well maybe he had that radar item an you were in the vicinity without having assassin perk on.

                          There are a ton of reason why people die. Sometimes its connection but the connection excuse is over used an at this point is a cop out. Most times people die because the other person is smarter or better then you.

                          Eveytime I kill about 3 people I start back tracking because that's when people start spawning behind you so I get the jump on them. That's being smart.

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                          • sven
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6021

                            #2458
                            Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                            Originally posted by bukktown
                            Is there anyway to see your individual stats for specific maps?
                            Nope.

                            It was a stat I was really hoping would be part of Elite since they said it would have greatly expanded stat tracking. Instead we got stat tracking that was a small step backwards from Black Ops in-game tracking.

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                            • Tyrant8RDFL
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3563

                              #2459
                              Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                              Originally posted by Buckeyes_Doc
                              IMO I think this is BS. Yes connection is important but you're kidding yourself if you think skill is not a factor. So my kills, reading the map, playing strategically to help my team and winning has nothing to do with my skills but the connection? Skill is just as important as connection. If you put a team of players who have had the game since release date against a team of players who have had the game since Christmas, I guarantee you the players with more skill and experience would win 9/10 times. Play against a team of guys that work together as a team and communicate and they will dominate. Skill is a factor.
                              Its not BS player, and if you read the ending of what I stated I made it clear this is not always the case.

                              It is the case for some people maybe not for you, but I have been on both sides of the fence. Where my connection had me behind others, and once I upgraded it my KD shot up.

                              I would finsh in the top 2 pretty much every singel time, and I came to realize that it was all in my connection. I alwasy had the skills and the right startegic approach, but my connection did not help, again till I updated it.

                              I even had players come to my house where they had over a 2 kd struggle big time when the played in my house. Again all this change with a upgrade to my internet speed.

                              So to you if want to think that your really some kind of special player with the tactics you use, and no one else plays that ways. Then feel good brother you deserve it

                              Take the same skills and stragedy with a ****ty connection , and then you come back here and tell me connection doesnt matter, becuase you play the game like a army ranger. Please give me a break.

                              I'm just honest to admitt that this game separtes players with more how the connection is distributed than the skill sets. This game is by far the easiest shooter anyone can ever play. Hitting your target is a joke in this game. Pretty much Everyone is accuarte in this game. Hit detection is horrible so imagine that with aim assist.

                              Your fooling yourself player.
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                              • Tyrant8RDFL
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3563

                                #2460
                                Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                                Originally posted by Buckeyes_Doc
                                That does occur, no one is saying it does not. It does not occur every time. But what about the others times when someone has a better position then you and kills you. Is that not skill?
                                How can you say it does not happen everytime?????????????????

                                It doesnt happen to you everytime, but for other it does!!!!!!!!

                                Great you have a solid connection and you're the best player because you plays the game like no other. You're the only one that plays the game with a strategic approach. This explains why you can still do well with a horrible connection and others cant.

                                You dug yourself so deep that you cannot get out of it, so you will stick to your guns about this skills crap.

                                MW3 doesnt have a difficult learning curve. This is one of the easiest shooter to play.
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