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  • JBH3
    Marvel's Finest
    • Jan 2007
    • 13506

    #2221
    Re: Destiny

    A level requirement is kind of dumb though. I won't be to a level 26 by the time the week is up so I feel cheated that I cannot participate in a part of the game.
    Originally posted by Edmund Burke
    All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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    • Kearnzo
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 5963

      #2222
      Re: Destiny

      The raid will be back.

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      • JBH3
        Marvel's Finest
        • Jan 2007
        • 13506

        #2223
        Re: Destiny

        Originally posted by ubernoob
        Only the people that go in expecting non-MMO things.
        So the people who spend the most amount of the time with the game anyway get to participate in a more exclusive game mode? Seems counter productive for getting people to play the game. I have no more sense of urgency to play this game now, than before, when I knew of no level requirement. I am sure there are others who feel that way too.
        Last edited by JBH3; 09-15-2014, 09:18 PM.
        Originally posted by Edmund Burke
        All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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        • Mabster
          Crunchy
          • Mar 2009
          • 7659

          #2224
          Re: Destiny

          Originally posted by JBH3
          A level requirement is kind of dumb though. I won't be to a level 26 by the time the week is up so I feel cheated that I cannot participate in a part of the game.
          Bungie has said it's not a requirement. It's more of a suggestion. The Vault can be entered at any level but I wish luck to anybody who attempts it.

          It's also not a timed event. It'll be there forever. Your progress in the Vault is reset every week but the raid doesn't go away.
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          • JBH3
            Marvel's Finest
            • Jan 2007
            • 13506

            #2225
            Re: Destiny

            Originally posted by Mabster
            Bungie has said it's not a requirement. It's more of a suggestion. The Vault can be entered at any level but I wish luck to anybody who attempts it.
            If I have legendary gear at level 19 how would I not be prepared?
            Originally posted by Edmund Burke
            All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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            • Candyman5
              Come get some!
              • Nov 2006
              • 14380

              #2226
              Re: Destiny

              Originally posted by JBH3
              If I have legendary gear at level 19 how would I not be prepared?
              Lvl 26 and higher enemies. They would most likely destroy you.

              Actually go to the entrance of the vault of glass on Venus and see if you can destroy the guards. I was lvl 21 at the time and they were imune to all my damage.

              Also my friends lucky *** got a exotic bounty tonight. So pissed, lol. For those of you that don't know it's a bounty that you randomly get when you complete bounties that make you participate in multiple things and unlock a exotic for you. He first had to complete the weekly heroic strike and now has to complete 25 bounties. I'm Pretty sure there's more after that as well to do.
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              • ubernoob
                ****
                • Jul 2004
                • 15522

                #2227
                Re: Destiny

                Originally posted by JBH3
                So the people who spend the most amount of the time with the game anyway get to participate in a more exclusive game mode? Seems counter productive for getting people to play the game. I have no more sense of urgency to play this game now, than before, when I knew of no level requirement. I am sure there are others who feel that way too.
                It's a raid. In an MMO.

                You know what the percentage of people are that complete the heroic raids in World of Warcraft?

                That game has a population of ~8-10 million.

                There was a sample of 2.2 million players, 4 months after a piece of content was released. Out of that 2.2 million players (not characters) sample... 0.23% of that had killed the final boss of that heroic raid. That content has been out for... almost a year now.

                I'd be surprised if 25% of the people have seen it in that year.

                That's just how MMOs work. Not all content is for everyone. End-game stuff is for people who both are "good" at the game and have time to devote to it.
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                • Gerg04
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 2647

                  #2228
                  Re: Destiny

                  Originally posted by JBH3
                  So the people who spend the most amount of the time with the game anyway get to participate in a more exclusive game mode? Seems counter productive for getting people to play the game. I have no more sense of urgency to play this game now, than before, when I knew of no level requirement. I am sure there are others who feel that way too.
                  Serious question: wouldn't this be THE reason to have a sense of urgency to play this game?

                  Bungie has said from the beginning the game "doesn't start" until 20+. The whole point is to get to the max levels in order to play these things. And with the speed in which you level, shouldn't take long.

                  I'm only level 11, but I've only had a few hours to play. Regardless I'm not rushing to get to 20 because all this stuff and more will be there whenever it is I get there. And to me that is the beauty of this game.

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                  • jwilphl
                    Legal Advisor
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1499

                    #2229
                    Re: Destiny

                    The end-game in Destiny is actually fairly accessible compared to other MMO games. I've likely played less than 20 hours and hit level 20 today. Now I'm not sure how fast leveling is beyond 20, but to reach the "soft" level cap that quickly is pretty unusual for this sort of game. They've really made Destiny an MMO that is open to a much larger audience than most.

                    And as already said, the Vault is a permanent addition. It won't go away, so whenever you get to 26, it will be ready.

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                    • JBH3
                      Marvel's Finest
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 13506

                      #2230
                      Re: Destiny

                      I am newcomer to MMOs. Guess I didn't realize the weight of this raid thing.
                      Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                      All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • Candyman5
                        Come get some!
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 14380

                        #2231
                        Re: Destiny

                        Originally posted by JBH3
                        I am newcomer to MMOs. Guess I didn't realize the weight of this raid thing.
                        It's fine, and don't worry about not hitting lvl 26 this week. The raid is there forever just progress resets every week for the raid like the weekly strikes and such. I know I, ubernoob and others know a lot about MMO's and such so just feel free to ask questions.

                        Imo bungie has done a great job with the launch of this so far. As long as the support for it remains good (which I don't see it wont) there will be extremely better things to come.
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                        • LingeringRegime
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 17089

                          #2232
                          Re: Destiny

                          So I just got a level 20 Scout Rifle. Crucible is fun again. Great stopping power.

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                          • Flawless
                            Bang-bang! Down-down!
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 16780

                            #2233
                            Re: Destiny

                            First exotic and it's for the Warlock class.



                            Also, got this sniper.

                            Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                            • ubernoob
                              ****
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 15522

                              #2234
                              Re: Destiny

                              Originally posted by Candyman5
                              It's fine, and don't worry about not hitting lvl 26 this week. The raid is there forever just progress resets every week for the raid like the weekly strikes and such. I know I, ubernoob and others know a lot about MMO's and such so just feel free to ask questions.

                              Imo bungie has done a great job with the launch of this so far. As long as the support for it remains good (which I don't see it wont) there will be extremely better things to come.
                              Yeah. Plenty of us won't have any issues helping out with whatever.

                              My main thing is I think Bungie may have dropped the ball a little bit when it comes to the explanation of things a bit, which leads to confused/being upset like JBH. It's natural.

                              Console gamers aren't used to MMOs, and the... 'mindset' behind them. Which, I think there's plenty of issues to be had with the current state of MMOs but that's neither here nor there.

                              They did an absolutely bang-up job of translating mechanics of MMOs to a console shooter. Strikes are basically your dungeons. The quests (missions) themselves are pretty terrible (go here, defend Dinklage-bot, rinse and repeat) but the seamless transition from "open" world to instanced area is great. They just need a way to let people know what type of thing they are getting themselves into.

                              I'd say it's a caveat emptor situation, but if it's something new (which this game most certainly is, there's not anything really like it on the market)... both Bungie and 'journalists' needed to do a better job explaining things.
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                              • Candyman5
                                Come get some!
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 14380

                                #2235
                                Re: Destiny

                                Also guys, make sure once you join the OS clan to select either the "Join Xbox Clan" or "Join Playstation Clan". If you don't it doesn't really put you anywhere. I noticed we have about 20ish in the clan but only about 7 that chose a platform.

                                Also who is on Xbone?
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