Destiny

[GamingJones]

Re: Destiny

The random teleport is kind of silly, it means you can't strategize much at all. I also think, like you guys, it's going to make it much harder for new guys and even guys just lfg, to find a raid team. I'm not sure about the thinking behind that one, did they just think atheon was too easy?

I agree, it's just not a good move. If it is too easy, make it level 28 or something. This just makes it more inaccessible.

[KingTocco]

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This game is insanely addicting, I've been playing for 4 hours straight.

If anyone wants to add me, PSN: KingTocco

I'm on a lot, getting closer to being able to do the raid. Mid-level 25 grinding away.

[Boltman]

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They've just cut off a huge portion of their player base. Many people who've never finished VoG are gonna have a real hard time getting in with randoms now.

But honestly, if they expect to sell DLC and keep the franchise going strong for years, they're gonna have to make alternate ways of reaching 32 (I think that's the newest level cap coming) that don't include raiding.

Many people don't have that kinda time.

[Mabster]

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I agree with all of that too. The first time I completed the raid I was the low man on the totem pole level wise and just didn't have the dps as the rest in the group. Once we figured I was the weak link in the chain we switched up our strategy. I took over relic duty and we were able to complete it pretty quickly after that once I got used to the mechanics of it.

Randomness will slow down the learning curve by a lot.

[Mabster]

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Thinking about it more, if Bungie is set on this, the best thing they could do would be to make it a static 3 on normal and random 3 on hard. If you've graduated to hard you should be able to do all roles and would add another spin on what makes it hard.

[Kramer5150]

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Reading some of the comments over at Bungie are quite telling of how folks are getting upset with Bungie about some of these changes...

Here's the deal. I want my 60+ dollars back for this comment alone “There should be no single answer for how to win in Destiny.” Because I'm pretty sure you were the ones that said that we were playing the game wrong and then got rid of the loot cave. Then you followed up with telling us to grind rep, do the raids, and try to kill more people in PvP. If that's not telling us how to win destiny I'm not sure what you mean.

Furthermore mentioning what was said above, regarding how nerfing is not about making the guns equal...that's cool so that means we're not supposed to be equal in PvP. Oh wait. PvP IS equal and when we asked for something that was not equal (Iron Banner) you immediately responded with "well that wouldn't make it equal or fun for lower levels".

Stop telling us how to play the game. If your intention was to have us all play the same way the game never should have been released to the public. You could have played it alone with your friends. Stop telling us " let's talk about why we do these things" and start listening to why you're wrong to tell your demographic and consumers how to play a game.

If people start complaining to Xbox and PSN networks and they come back to you then you might listen. They shelled out so much money for extra content for their systems, betting on the game being a success. All you did was take their money, release a game with major flaws and reply condescendingly to consumers.

You don't listen to people actively trying to tell you how to make the game better. No patches have been made to fix major flaws in the game. No one has seen matchmaking for the raid. No updates have been made to your servers which frequently kick and upset players. No buffs for bad juju and thorn. No talking to a fire team. No one has seen this wide world mmo promised.

So tell me what have you done to fix the game for consumers? Fixed your loot system? That isn't any better than before. Limited coins and still don't sell you anything on par with what you already have. Nerfed guns? That, no one requested. Fixed the glitched ghosts? Noooope.

Your response to all this is "we may listen to your suggestions". Cool. Unfortunately I can't wait for you to do that. In summary, I want my sixty dollars back. I'd like to go put my payment on Assassin's Creed which listened to their consumers.

So on one hand you say "matchmaking for raids won't work because you need a strong organized team to complete the raid"

On the other hand you say "we're going to completely randomize the encounter so strategy is out the window"

These are in complete contradiction of each other and make no sense. You are giving the players so few choices that your open world plan (even though it's not open world) is becoming very linear at an alarming rate. Why can't I strengthen my fireteam by playing my role? Why should I have to play according to a very restrictive set of rules? Why can't I sit on the very sniper perches that your snipers do? Why are you micro managing my experience and sucking what little joy is left out of this game?

Honestly can you not see that with every patch you guys are driving a wedge between your player base and the game? It has to stop. Like anyone still playing I want destiny to succeed so bad. It literally breaks my gaming heart to see something with so much potential be killed by it's very creator. With every patch you have further diminished the PVE co-op experience almost to the point of me wondering why am I still bothering to care about this game. I don't speak for everyone and won't pretend to, but I would like to think I have my finger on the pulse of the people I know and play with. The reception to these kinds of patches isn't good.

My whole clan is one decent game away from washing our hands of Destiny. I don't want to but it seems that I will soon have little choice. I'm a grown *** man with a family and I'll be damned if I let someone else tell me how to play a game I paid for. Strategy isn't a bug it's a well thought out plan for success. Pushing him off is a bug, moving my fireteam to a tactical position to gain an advantage is not.

I've tried to be as cordial as possible with this and hope you take the time to relay this to the people who make these terrible decisions but my instincts tell me it will fall on deaf ears.

DEEJ I implore you to convince these people to stop before it's too far gone and the world of Destiny is a story of what could have been and not one of becoming legend.

Good job bungie! In a month you won't have many players. Keep pushing them away idiots...

The design choices for this game keep getting worse and worse.

This will only encourge raging at newer people at atheon. Most raids in games have established roles, terrible gameplay decision. On the top of Atheon why don't you fix the actual bugs such as the portal glitching and only 2 people getting ported. I guess those are not important...

There were some positive comments there as well,but for the most part it seemed like more were on the negative side.

I really enjoy the game (hell it's all I've been playing...lol) so I would like for it to only get better,but I do question some of their decisions.

One thing...if knocking the boss of the ledge is a "bug",does that mean that when I get knocked off the edge it's a bug?...

Hell,I want "baby bumpers" too then....

[Mabster]

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Cowher, I commend you for weeding through the mess that is the Bungie forums.

The amount of backtracking and double talk from bungie is amazing. They refuse to give matchmaking to the raid because 6 random players can't be cohesive enough to complete it yet they go and randomize the encounter to break up any cohesiveness that is formed. Which is it? It's making it harder to continue to like this game when everything they say is backasswards to what they do.

[Mabster]

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I pulled the Cuirass of the Hezen Lords during this week's raid and so I didn't feel a need to roll the dice with Xur and a chest armor last night.

So I login now and decide today to roll the dice anyway. I mean what else am I going to do with all these motes and if he give me something I can't use I'll just break it down for shards.

He gave me the Heart of the Praxis Fire. The one thing I really could use. Now I have to choose between the Cuirass and this.

#LuckySOBproblems

[Burns11]

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Before they made the changes, other than maybe the atheon knock off edge thing, they needed to fix the damn bugs. It's ridiculous they are changing something that's not broken when you can still come out on the wrong side of a gate and the end of the raid is still bugged so you don't get the end screen.


Edit: I just saw they are calling the back three thing a bug. BS. No way that is really a bug. They also say part of the end fight is "making sure that each player in your group can perform every job as required." Except there's no way to practice using the relic. None. There is only one chance to use a relic before the last room, and then there is only 2 possible chances before the last phase. Not exactly a vast chance to learn that skill.

In the end I don't think it will be so bad, just have to have everybody who goes after the relic know what they are doing, maybe wipe a couple times in the Templar fight to give every new player a chance to get a feel for the relic.

Might not matter anyway, now there is a new video out where everybody just wails on Atheon with good rocket launchers and he goes down in under 20 seconds. It's kind of like a Gorgon fight.

[Boltman]

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Everyone with a purple or exotic launcher maxed out, sounds great.

Eventually they'll make him rocket proof lol.

[GamingJones]

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Everyone with a purple or exotic launcher maxed out, sounds great.

Eventually they'll make him rocket proof lol.

That's the problem. They seem to be mad people are figuring out different ways to play the game and keep rewriting the rules.

[GamingJones]

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Since the relic parts are different from the rest of the game (outside of the Sword of Crota), for anyone that has not done the raid yet, here are the controls:

Grenade button: Shield/Cleanse field
Melee button: Light melee
Shoot button: Heavy melee
Super button(s): Super projectile similar to the warlock's nova bomb. Can be used on the ground or in the air.
Jump + Shoot buttons: Ground slam

[Kearnzo]

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Received the bounty for Super Good Advice this morning. Completed it in about 45 minutes. Easily the simplest exotic bounty to complete.

It also helps that I got lucky and found the Mournful Gun on Mars on like my third chest. I completed the 500 machine gun kills on Venus in no time at all at the farming area. It was 3 points toward the 500 with precision kills, and with the Swarm, it only took one precision shot to down everything.

[fishepa]

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I pulled the Cuirass of the Hezen Lords during this week's raid and so I didn't feel a need to roll the dice with Xur and a chest armor last night.

So I login now and decide today to roll the dice anyway. I mean what else am I going to do with all these motes and if he give me something I can't use I'll just break it down for shards.

He gave me the Heart of the Praxis Fire. The one thing I really could use. Now I have to choose between the Cuirass and this.

#LuckySOBproblems

You poor thing!! LOL

[Jistic]

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First game of Crucible got a legendary engram, turned out to be THe commedian. Keep getting kicked off PSN though. Not sure why.