Final Fantasy XV

[ubernoob]

Another person that recognizes the brilliance of FFXII. It's easily up there with my favorite FFs. Square Enix said if FFX HD does well, then FFXII HD could follow. I really hope so, and we get the International Zodiac Edition with the job system.

12 was good, but unrefined. I enjoyed the gambit system, but they could have done so much more with it.

There are still at least 3 FFs I'd put in a class way above 12 though.

[Chrisksaint]

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I wasn't a huge fan of 12, but I never finished it either as during Xmas vacation I was playing it in the car thanks to some fancy setups and it got stolen.

The story in that one was just so boring from what I remember

[Unlucky 13]

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There are still at least 3 FFs I'd put in a class way above 12 though.

Everyone has their own tastes. I absolutely hated 9. It was so lame and juvenile, especially after how much of a step forward they'd taken with 7 and 8. It was like a bad Disney movie. There seemed to be this natural progression that they'd taken with the US releases of 1,2,3,7,8.....then.....that steaming pile of crap. Square redeemed themselves with X and 12.

For me, the great appeal of 12 was the wide array of ways the you could form your party and choose to battle enemies. It was so much fun to dedicate one character as a healer, and just go to town with the others. Huge landscape, sooooo many subquests, places you could go back and back and back to.....and they took all of that away with 13. It was hearbreaking.

13 was "you'll do things our way and ONLY our way", which was very different than the way Id been playing the games for 20 years leading up to that point.

[pietasterp]

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.....and they took all of that away with 13. It was hearbreaking.

13 was "you'll do things our way and ONLY our way", which was very different than the way Id been playing the games for 20 years leading up to that point.

The post-game in 13 wasn't like that, but your point is well-taken...if the game only opens up 50-hrs later after you beat the thing, I would imagine most people would have given up long before then. But I will say that for those that persevered (or enjoyed it, as I did), the post-game was a ton of fun. The battle system really shows what it was meant to be like fighting some of those monsters (having to utlilize sentinels, for one thing), and when you got good and were swapping paradigms between enemy moves and timing it for huge hits before turtle-ing back up, it got really satisfying. Just trying to take down an adamantoise (not using the Vanille death method) could be a mini-game in itself.

But as I mentioned, FF is always changing, so I'll definitely give XV a try. It's coming out for both next-gen systems, I think?

[ubernoob]

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The post-game in 13 wasn't like that, but your point is well-taken...if the game only opens up 50-hrs later after you beat the thing, I would imagine most people would have given up long before then. But I will say that for those that persevered (or enjoyed it, as I did), the post-game was a ton of fun. The battle system really shows what it was meant to be like fighting some of those monsters (having to utlilize sentinels, for one thing), and when you got good and were swapping paradigms between enemy moves and timing it for huge hits before turtle-ing back up, it got really satisfying. Just trying to take down an adamantoise (not using the Vanille death method) could be a mini-game in itself.

But as I mentioned, FF is always changing, so I'll definitely give XV a try. It's coming out for both next-gen systems, I think?

It should be. Kingdom Hearts is on both systems, so I'm 99% sure FFXV is as well.

[Unlucky 13]

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But I will say that for those that persevered (or enjoyed it, as I did), the post-game was a ton of fun. The battle system really shows what it was meant to be like fighting some of those monsters (having to utlilize sentinels, for one thing), and when you got good and were swapping paradigms between enemy moves and timing it for huge hits before turtle-ing back up, it got really satisfying

Well, I completed the game....did most of what it had to offer....just unsatisfying. Im hoping that they listen to all of the comments from fans and XV gets closer to what previous games were....but early indications are that it wont.

[pietasterp]

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Well, I completed the game....did most of what it had to offer....just unsatisfying. Im hoping that they listen to all of the comments from fans and XV gets closer to what previous games were....but early indications are that it wont.

Understand your point of view, but to me, I think they listened too much to their vocal minority fans after FFXIII (which I really liked a lot), and the result was FFXIII-2, which I felt like was just one compromise after another. To me, the story/characters is always the most important thing in a FF, followed closely by the battle system. Everything else is secondary, IMO. I thought FFXIII did those things well, and sacrificed a lot of the bells & whistles in the process.

But, I think XV looks intruiging, and we should have some sense of how that battle system will work after XIII-3 comes out.

[Flawless]

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[ubernoob]

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Le sigh.

Another garbage-*** Final Fantasy game that I will play because it has the name 'Final Fantasy' on it.

**** you, SquEnix.

[Unlucky 13]

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I remain interested, but not excited. At this point, I'm looking forward to Dragon Age 3 10x more than FF15.

[XtremeDunkz]

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Driving around in a convertible in Final Fantasy? Fighting wild animals and soldiers? ehh, no thanks.

Looks like I'll have to go pull out FF 7-10 to replay to remember how good this series USED to be...

[Jasong7777]

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Yea, this trailer didn't do much for me. Since it's Final Fantasy i'll probably play though. I made it through the 13 series, i'll make it though this one.

[Chrisksaint]

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Soo it's Kingdom Hearts basically now? Now don't get me wrong those games are incredibly fun and some of my favorite games ever, but man this isn't Final Fantasy.

[Unlucky 13]

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Soo it's Kingdom Hearts basically now? Now don't get me wrong those games are incredibly fun and some of my favorite games ever, but man this isn't Final Fantasy.

I agree with you. The series progressed and got better, and seemed to be one continuous evolution through its peak, FF12. Then it disapeared for the majority of the PS3/XBOX360 generation, only to come out with the depressingly hollow 13, barely-there 13-2, and the joke that was 13-3.

15 looks like it may be a good game. Too early to judge really. But it doesn't look anything like the games that I loved playing from 1989-2006. I'd so hoped that with the new, powerful technology that consoles have, Square would run with it, and make beautiful visuals and fun gameplay to go with their always excellent characters and exploration, deep leveling system, and extensive weapons and armor. They've just totally dropped the ball for most of the last decade.

[J-Clutch1]

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I prefer the "Tales of..." series over Final Fantasy now