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  • johnnyg713
    MVP
    • Dec 2007
    • 1465

    #16
    Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

    I've only played up to AC2.. I dont know how much it has evolved since but Arkham City had the ability to counter up to 3 guys at once as opposed to AC 2 where guys would stand around waiting their turn to strike individually. To me the combat in arkham city is more fluid and combination based. You had to recognize which button to push at the right time. Required a little more strategy and skill. To me with AC i just held RT the whole time then pressed x to counter then pull off a finishing move. Basically how I killed everyone. Nit picky stuff, but you're right, both are very similar.
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    • thaima1shu
      Robot
      • Feb 2004
      • 5598

      #17
      Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

      Originally posted by kingkilla56
      To me the Batman and AC fighting systems are VERY similar. Almost the same really.
      Originally posted by johnnyg713
      I've only played up to AC2.. I dont know how much it has evolved since but Arkham City had the ability to counter up to 3 guys at once as opposed to AC 2 where guys would stand around waiting their turn to strike individually. To me the combat in arkham city is more fluid and combination based. You had to recognize which button to push at the right time. Required a little more strategy and skill. To me with AC i just held RT the whole time then pressed x to counter then pull off a finishing move. Basically how I killed everyone. Nit picky stuff, but you're right, both are very similar.
      This is pretty much how I feel. I've actually only played up to AC2 as well and at that time, the combat felt extremely clunky and repetitive to me. It may have evolved since then, but I have no idea because I've never played it since.

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      • AshamanCarnage
        Rookie
        • Jul 2006
        • 1252

        #18
        Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

        This looks amazing, the combining of Arkham and Creed along with the lore of LOtR should make for a great game.

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        • RGmoney
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 4681

          #19
          Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

          Shadow of Mordor Accused of Using Assassin's Creed II Code: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/...-creed-ii-code

          A former Ubisoft developer who worked on the first two Assassin's Creed games is claiming that the latest Lord of the Rings game, Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor, appears to be using code and animations from Assassin's Creed II.

          Charles Randall shared his suspicions on Twitter today following the release of a trailer for Shadow of Mordor, a new open-world game set in the Lord of the Rings universe. Linking to the debut trailer seen below, Randall joked, "Check it out guys! I apparently made a Middle Earth game!" He followed this up with a series of tweets expanding on what he meant, first stating, "Seriously, can someone tell me how Assassin's Creed 2 code and assets are in this Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor game?"

          Randall said he believes work he did for Assassin's Creed II could be seen on display in the trailer released today, including "code/anim[ation] for sure." He pointed out that he's aware he has no legal claim to his work, but did say he hopes to be acknowledged in the game's credits.

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          Combat and air assassinations are among the aspects of Assassin's Creed that Randall worked on while at Ubisoft. When it was pointed out the game resembles the Batman: Arkham games more than Assassin's Creed, he responded, "I spent two years staring at AC2. I know it when I see it."

          In his tweets, Randall didn't bash Shadow of Mordor; in fact, he expressed enthusiasm for it and the prospect of the Assassin's Creed engine being licensed out to other developers. However, there is as of yet no indication that this is what's happened. Shadow of Mordor is being developed for PC and next-generation consoles by Monolith Productions, the developer of FEAR, Condemned, Gotham City Impostors, and Guardians of Middle-Earth.

          IGN has reached out to both Ubisoft and Shadow of Mordor publisher Warner Bros. to confirm Randall's claims and will report back with any information we receive.

          For more about Shadow of Mordor, check out IGN's preview.

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          • trobinson97
            Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
            • Oct 2004
            • 16366

            #20
            Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

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            • Burns11
              Greatness Has Arrived
              • Mar 2007
              • 7406

              #21
              Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

              It REALLY does look like Assassins Creed at times.

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              • Money99
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2002
                • 12695

                #22
                Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                Originally posted by Burns11
                It REALLY does look like Assassins Creed at times.
                It sure does. But I don't care. I really like AC's and Batman's combat so I'm happy they're copying those battle mechanics.

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                • GruffyMcGuiness
                  Rise up!
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1354

                  #23
                  Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                  Why hasn't anyone made an Elder Scrolls like RPG with all of Middle Earth? Blows my mind.

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                  • BenGerman
                    No Place Better
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2752

                    #24
                    Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                    Originally posted by GruffyMcGuiness
                    Why hasn't anyone made an Elder Scrolls like RPG with all of Middle Earth? Blows my mind.
                    I think this is going to be as close as we are going to get.

                    - Decisions play a big role (probably a bigger role than ES, by the looks of it)
                    - Open world
                    - Character progression

                    I think the big difference is going to be no character creation, which is a bummer. But usually RPGs with no real character creation (ie Mass Effect) have pretty strong stories.
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                    • AshamanCarnage
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1252

                      #25
                      Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                      Originally posted by BenGerman
                      I think this is going to be as close as we are going to get.

                      - Decisions play a big role (probably a bigger role than ES, by the looks of it)
                      - Open world
                      - Character progression

                      I think the big difference is going to be no character creation, which is a bummer. But usually RPGs with no real character creation (ie Mass Effect) have pretty strong stories.
                      I will happily sacrifice a created character with little to no dialogue, if it can deliver a story near ME's level.

                      If they can mix that with the combat and stealth we saw, I think everyone should be pretty happy.

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #26
                        Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                        Originally posted by Cpre5
                        Gameplay, looks good. A little Batman/Assassin's creed

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                        I had to stop watching the video.

                        This is bananas! Like Assasin's Creed on HGH.

                        He can make Ratbag go back and assassinate his leader??

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #27
                          Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                          I had to stop watching the video.



                          This is bananas! Like Assasin's Creed on HGH.



                          He can make Ratbag go back and assassinate his leader??




                          Yeah the system is dynamic. Really amazing to read.

                          I like how these guys actually remember who you are. I also enjoyed seeing the leader kill Ratbag and it counting as a kill in your favor. It seems minute but it means a lot to know the world understands your mission.


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                          • LingeringRegime
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 17089

                            #28
                            Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                            Originally posted by CMH
                            Yeah the system is dynamic. Really amazing to read.

                            I like how these guys actually remember who you are. I also enjoyed seeing the leader kill Ratbag and it counting as a kill in your favor. It seems minute but it means a lot to know the world understands your mission.


                            Sent from my mobile device.
                            Yeah really awesome that no enemies are ever generic. They each have distinct physical characteristics, personalities, and remember previous encounters with you. Wasn't expecting that, but man do I like the sound of it.

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                            • bigeastbumrush
                              My Momma's Son
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19245

                              #29
                              Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                              I'm just totally mind blown at the different outcomes we'll all have by the choices that we make.

                              So much for comparing notes because no two guys will play it exactly 100% the same.

                              I love next gen!!!!

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                              • ODogg
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 37953

                                #30
                                Re: Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

                                Oh I'm all over this one, looks killer
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