Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

[NDAlum]

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I should mention I primarily play conquest therefore my post is directed more at that mode. I apologize for not clarifying.

Definitely agree about the other game modes. I always have my conquest goggles on.

People won't like my posts because of who I am either. I know some people on OS can't stand me so I feel you there.

[Dog]

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It depends on the game mode. In Conquest, I'll take that guy with the most points and the low K/D instead of the dude with the high K/D and not a lot of points. That'd why I look at SPM to judge myself or another player rather than K/D or W/L.

In Rush, I'll take the killers.


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[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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So what's everyones thoughts? PS4, Xbox One, or PC?

PC, PC, and more PC

[Gerg04]

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It depends on the game mode. In Conquest, I'll take that guy with the most points and the low K/D instead of the dude with the high K/D and not a lot of points. That'd why I look at SPM to judge myself or another player rather than K/D or W/L.

In Rush, I'll take the killers.


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Exactly.

TDM - No argument. K/D matters...pretty obviously.

Every other objective based game is about PTFO, period. Sure kills "matter" because its a shooter, but a bad K/D means absolutely nothing if you're capping points, squad leading/following orders, playing your class and just generally scoring points.

Conversely, high K/D in the middle of the pack (or lower as I've noticed more on BF1 than before) doesn't do much for helping your team win the game.

I think the true way yo discern this issue is:

There are people who want nothing to do with the OBJ and just want to klll.

There are people who are awesome at getting kills AND playing the OBJ.

There are people who only care about PTFO and couldn't care leas about K/D.

And everyone in between...its the players who have no interest in the objective that should stick to TDM.



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[sbauer318]

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I don't know. You need a balance of both. I like the idea of high point totals and a negative K/D until I have a team with not enough killers and we're getting rolled over at points. It's then I wish I had more killers.

[Dog]

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I don't know. You need a balance of both. I like the idea of high point totals and a negative K/D until I have a team with not enough killers and we're getting rolled over at points. It's then I wish I had more killers.

That's the thing tho, if they all have high point totals, regardless of K/D, you probably aren't losing. Unless they are all just going for kills and not capping points, etc (which I have absolutely seen happen)


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[seasprite]

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I don't know. You need a balance of both. I like the idea of high point totals and a negative K/D until I have a team with not enough killers and we're getting rolled over at points. It's then I wish I had more killers.

I pride myself in not being able to shoot virtually for ****......but I will heal ever single person on the battlefield and cap points like a boss.

[sbauer318]

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That's the thing tho, if they all have high point totals, regardless of K/D, you probably aren't losing. Unless they are all just going for kills and not capping points, etc (which I have absolutely seen happen)


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It just depends. I've seen high point totals on teams where the team was capturing them, but constantly losing them at the same time. Throw out a little ammo and some health packs. Maybe call in an order or three and you have some points. It's all contextual. You need people to kill just as you need people to support.

[Dog]

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It just depends. I've seen high point totals on teams where the team was capturing them, but constantly losing them at the same time. Throw out a little ammo and some health packs. Maybe call in an order or three and you have some points.

Sure, it happens. Not often tho, which is my point.


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[seasprite]

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It just depends. I've seen high point totals on teams where the team was capturing them, but constantly losing them at the same time. Throw out a little ammo and some health packs. Maybe call in an order or three and you have some points. It's all contextual. You need people to kill just as you need people to support.

That's the beauty of BF and has always been the thing that set it apart from other FPS for me. You need those "killers", but you also need those guys who know what they are doing as far as support.

[Boltman]

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Not sure I'd like the winning team getting the behemoths. Would probably make a lopsided game even more lopsided ..... I guess it's weird the losing team gets rewarded but not sure even if I was the winning team it would be fun

I kinda like the back and fourth action and not the we are killing the other team so bad that all you have to watch is the same one or two flags for 20-30 mins


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My displeasure with it going to the losing team automatically really has nothing to do with it going to the winning team.

It's not about the winning or losing team at all in fact.

It has to do with it going to the team dedicated enough to win the cap and earn it.

That could be the winning or losing team in that scenario.

You see, that's where I was going with my post.

[sbauer318]

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That's the beauty of BF and has always been the thing that set it apart from other FPS for me. You need those "killers", but you also need those guys who know what they are doing as far as support.

Exactly. That's why I don't like these preference talks about how I'd rather have supporters vs killers. I'm not talking about people that just randomly seek out people to kill in random parts of the map. I'm talking about people that put in work on the front lines taking people down. You can't revive people if their entire side is still standing there shooting at you and your ammo box has a lot more value when you have teammates that are rolling through ammo.

[Gerg04]

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Exactly. That's why I don't like these preference talks about I'd rather have supporters vs killers. I'm not talking about people that just randomly seek out people to kill in random parts of the map. I'm talking about people that put in work on the front lines taking people down. You can't revive people if their entire side is still standing there shooting at you still and your ammo box has a lot more value when you have teammates that are rolling through ammo.

Its a great point you make. And as you said earlier, balance is key. In reality, especially on 64 man games, you really need both equally.

I think where things go awry here in this thread (OS?) is people take their own preference and automatically feel the need to justify their point and/or are too quick to say playing any other way is "wrong". Edit: myself included BTW, I've been guilty of this.

Seasprite nailed it; its the beauty of Battlefield! And we can only hope it stays that way lest we end up with more CoD like shooters (not a shot at CoD, its just a different beast).

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[erickonasis]

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Couldn't disagree more about K/D not mattering. It's a shooter. Shooting skills always matter.

[de5m0n]

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10 hours left before us mortals get on it.