Days Gone

[Money99]

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I wanted to ask the same question. It seems like I see a lot of anti-multiplayer posts on OS and it kind of confuses me.

TLOU is one of many games that proves you can have fully fleshed out single player and multiplayer co-exist on the same disc, definitely hard for me to consider no mp a good thing across the board. MP doesn't have to come at a cost to single player

DOOM kicked the crap out of its multiplayer but at least everyone got something

The reason why I dislike MP is because when it's added to a game, then typically certain elements are removed – namely a good offline story.
I’ll use RB6:Siege as an example. I loved RB6:Vegas because of the great story and structure.
But with Siege, that’s thrown out. Why bother making a good offline storymode when you can just play with friends online? Just pick a map, wait for 10 other people to join and go at it.

And at times, AI is sacrificed because why program good opponent AI when you can just go online and face real people and get stomped by some 10YO who has an infinite amount of time to master a game in a day.

If a game is produced with SP in mind, then it seems like the game is more fleshed out; from voice acting, to depth… Look at Skyrim. I don’t think that game would be nearly as deep if it was an MMO.
Games that are MP only seem like shells in comparison because the producers are expecting real-people to fill in the blanks.

I could see a game like Days Gone doing well if you could play with 1, maybe 2 or 3 friends at a time. It’s unfortunate that won’t be the case.
But overall, I don’t think anyone can argue that SP games usually have a lot more polish to them.
I don’t think titles like The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, etc would have been as good if they were focused solely on multiplayer action.

So seeing that Days Gone is a SP only game is music to my ears because the programmers would have to work a lot harder to bring a truly enjoyable experience to the customer instead of relying on My_Mom_Says_I’M_Hot_69 to do it for them.

[Boltman]

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because why program good opponent AI when you can just go online and face real people and get stomped by some 10YO who has an infinite amount of time to master a game in a day.

I know I'm just singling out one section of your solid reasoning but I wanted to point out that this is the main reason behind why some OSers (and some gamers in general) don't like MP.

I love MP and would never buy a game that doesn't include it. In fact I know I've ventured to the other side.

I prefer MP to single player only games. Or at the very least, a game that offers both modes. I think most of the gaming industry has been sliding over to the MP side anyways, they know that's where the real money is generated.

But I recognize and respect the view of those of you that don't want none of it.

I agree with what Jare said completely, I'd say that's my general view on it as well.

[The JareBear]

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Yeah, solid posts Bolt and Money. I understand both sides of the coin.

Either way, really looking forward to learning about the survival elements of this game

[The Kid 24]

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Curious to know if we'll be able to take over bases (or w/e they'll be called), etc that we find?

I love games that have side things to do like that!

[Money99]

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I know I'm just singling out one section of your solid reasoning but I wanted to point out that this is the main reason behind why some OSers (and some gamers in general) don't like MP.

I love MP and would never buy a game that doesn't include it. In fact I know I've ventured to the other side.

I prefer MP to single player only games. Or at the very least, a game that offers both modes. I think most of the gaming industry has been sliding over to the MP side anyways, they know that's where the real money is generated.

But I recognize and respect the view of those of you that don't want none of it.

I agree with what Jare said completely, I'd say that's my general view on it as well.

Completely agree. MP is where the industry is heading and it's definitely a solid money maker. Moreso than standalone games, that's for sure.

I think that's why us SP zealots are so protective of our little niche. Our boat is sinking and we're holding on for dear life, haha.

[Boltman]

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Like I said, I totally understand that point of view.

And funnily put lol.

[daniel77733]

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Info taken from a neogaf post -

* Studio is about 100 people, was around 40 - 50 for Uncharted Vita.

* Game is PS4 Exclusive, no PC mode "We are Sony Bend, we are PS4 Exclusive" lol. At Sony Bend, they make it very clear during interview, everyone wears a lot of hats. Many people are involved in different aspects.

* One thing I picked up is you ride a special bike, called a Drifter, that can drive off road, they said lots of off roading since the roads are all broken up, "Broken Roads." The bike is needed to survive, it is like its own character. It has saddle bags that holds your inventory. The bike is grounded, you will need to "know where it is and manage it" Several devs are bikers, lots of research into the bike. Actually got it up on rollers to make sure they got the sound of the bike right.

* Also, weather has a big effect on traveling and how the bike handles.

* No Multiplayer at all, focusing on their strengths, single player story.

* Demo was a bounty hunting mission, hunting down a biker "2 Dog" and tried to show the danger of leaving the safety of encampments.

* Wanted the game to be a big sandbox of what you would do when "**** goes down."

* Weapons crafting system, they call a "MacGuyver Mentality" where the you figure out clever ways to build tools to get out of situations.

* Their demo they are showing off on show floor has "millions" of ways to play that demo, depending on what tools you bring with you. The environment also plays a huge role in how you deal with certain situations.

* Takes place just a few years after the "apocolypse" event. Society is starting to try to rebuild, as supplies are starting to run out. Made it sound like part of the game is figuring out what to do with the resources you find.

* Wildlife is in the game, they have a "huge" wildlife system they aren't going to talk much about right now. But the event didn't wipe out all wildlife.

* Not willing to talk yet about different story paths, different endings, etc. They chuckled but they dont want to talk about it yet.

* Zombie hoard was all real, no LOD tricks, there are that many people on the screen.

* No release date or time window. They aren't wanting to do that right now.

* It was huge for their studio to be right up there on stage, getting prime focus, along with all of Sony's other big studios. It showed them how much Sony believes in their product. It meant a lot to them.

* Game has been in development for 3+ years, but still its in early development as they just only finished core mechanics/ideas of the game and not ready yet

* Exemplifying truly free-form gameplay, Days Gone offers freedom to explore, strategize and play “your way” in the vast high-desert of the Pacific Northwest. The hazardous environments, filled with carved out ridges, mountains, caves, cliffs mines and river basins, deliver a breathtaking backdrop to an equally diverse style of gameplay.

*Emergent Gameplay

*Featuring fully explorable environments and dynamic AI enemies, players will rely on their own abilities to strategize, craft weapons and tools, explore the world, and engage in combat. With almost every car, building and environment searchable, Days Gone delivers emergent gameplay possibilities, making a player’s approach to combat and discovery a vital part of the experience.

* Stunning, Dynamic Graphics

*Using the power of PlayStation 4 and Unreal Engine 4, Bend Studio has developed a high volume of rendering and gameplay technology to deliver an incredibly realistic open world experience. Realistic weather effects, such as rain, wind, snow and day-night cycles impact the gameplay. The game’s lighting is all real-time and reacts dynamically, the way the human iris does, as players move from one location to the next.

I'm ultra pumped. And yes, im happy that there's no online/co op/multi-player aspects in the game. Not every game needs that stuff. A pure single player experience is perfect for me. Days Gone, Horizon and God of War are perfect for me!!! Woohoo!!!

[The JareBear]

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I've never once said "man I'm glad this game is multi player only." I guess it's too bad most devs can't follow the GTA5, TLOU, and UC4 models and give gamers uncompromising developed single player as well as fun and fleshed out multiplayer. I always believe that the more people that can enjoy a game, the better. I get what Money said though, that a lot of devs sacrifice single player quality in favor of multi-player components, which is crappy. In life, and especially in gaming, it's impossible for everyone to be happy, I get that

Oh well.

The details from that Neogaf post all sound great. Wildlife system could add some immersion to the environment for sure.

Edit

I think it only bothers me because when I think of zombie games I think of co-op/multiplayer. SP only doesn't bother me one bit for games like God of War and Ratchet and Clank, Tomb Raider, etc

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Completely agree. MP is where the industry is heading and it's definitely a solid money maker. Moreso than standalone games, that's for sure.

I think that's why us SP zealots are so protective of our little niche. Our boat is sinking and we're holding on for dear life, haha.

Luckily, practically every game Sony showed, was single player focused.

I think some Publishers are starting to handle it a bit differently now. Instead of investing fully into 'both in the box', they are trickling out MP only games with aesthetic transactions, or 'skip the grind' purchases, and delivering SP games focusing on the best of their vision.

Only select few who receive backlash feel the pressure to now sub out other studios for a SP portion (Battlefront/Titanfall), while others get much less anger their way, (a lot to due with the passionate Blizzard fanbase), like Overwatch.

And there will still be those who's model have been both, Uncharted, Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc..

With rising development costs though, I can see either more subbing out, or split model we are seeing of SP or MP only.

[The Kid 24]

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I'm ultra pumped. And yes, im happy that there's no online/co op/multi-player aspects in the game. Not every game needs that stuff. A pure single player experience is perfect for me. Days Gone, Horizon and God of War are perfect for me!!! Woohoo!!!

Wow this sounds amazing! Can not wait!

Sounds like this is a long ways out from a release tho.

[Dogslax41]

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As much as I love no MP in these types of games I wish there was a great zombie survival game for PS4 that could be played Co-Op. Thats why State of Decay 2 is getting me excited, the collect, survive and work together to stay alive aspect with a friend is what I want.

I thought Day Z be that game but since its taking a decade to be released we have nothing.

Isn't 7 Days to Die coming out soon on PS4?

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Isn't 7 Days to Die coming out soon on PS4?

28th of this month (just looked it up).

Have not read too much into it... saw 'spawns in a randomly generated world' though. Seems interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Days_to_Die

[Godgers12]

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The reason why I dislike MP is because when it's added to a game, then typically certain elements are removed – namely a good offline story.
I’ll use RB6:Siege as an example. I loved RB6:Vegas because of the great story and structure.
But with Siege, that’s thrown out. Why bother making a good offline storymode when you can just play with friends online? Just pick a map, wait for 10 other people to join and go at it.

And at times, AI is sacrificed because why program good opponent AI when you can just go online and face real people and get stomped by some 10YO who has an infinite amount of time to master a game in a day.

If a game is produced with SP in mind, then it seems like the game is more fleshed out; from voice acting, to depth… Look at Skyrim. I don’t think that game would be nearly as deep if it was an MMO.
Games that are MP only seem like shells in comparison because the producers are expecting real-people to fill in the blanks.

I could see a game like Days Gone doing well if you could play with 1, maybe 2 or 3 friends at a time. It’s unfortunate that won’t be the case.
But overall, I don’t think anyone can argue that SP games usually have a lot more polish to them.
I don’t think titles like The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, etc would have been as good if they were focused solely on multiplayer action.

So seeing that Days Gone is a SP only game is music to my ears because the programmers would have to work a lot harder to bring a truly enjoyable experience to the customer instead of relying on My_Mom_Says_I’M_Hot_69 to do it for them.

So is it bad that COD and BF have MP?

[kwebbvols4423]

Days Gone

I love single player far more but there are a few multi player games that I really enjoy, BF, Halo, and Destiny.


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[daniel77733]

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Sony Bend is an up and coming studio for Sony and the PlayStation brand. Best thing to do is build an excellent game and that can only be done via single player. I'm pumped and excited for this game. Not happy that it's probably a year or so away but other than that, im super hyped.