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  • USF11
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    • Jun 2003
    • 4245

    #1531
    Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

    Eating lunch at Chipotle every day is killin me.
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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #1532
      Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

      Originally posted by TMagic
      ...If you're willing to risk kidney problems.

      Keep it to 1 gram per pound of body weight is a safe and easy way to go. No more than that. A lot of my text books are recommending 1.5-2.0 grams per kilogram of body weight if your lifting to gain muscle mass.
      I eat tuna and other protein filled foods and I think for my weight, 270 pounds, it would be impossible to obtain a 1 to 1 ration, that's 270 grams of protein per day. Right now with fish + tuna and other protein foods I get about 100-120. To go to 270 grams of protein each day i'd have to have a huge calorie boost and that would not help me any for weight loss. Perhaps the entire 1 to 1 thing is not if you're currently trying to ditch the pudge?
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      • matt8204
        MVP
        • Sep 2008
        • 1164

        #1533
        Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

        Originally posted by ODogg
        I eat tuna and other protein filled foods and I think for my weight, 270 pounds, it would be impossible to obtain a 1 to 1 ration, that's 270 grams of protein per day. Right now with fish + tuna and other protein foods I get about 100-120. To go to 270 grams of protein each day i'd have to have a huge calorie boost and that would not help me any for weight loss. Perhaps the entire 1 to 1 thing is not if you're currently trying to ditch the pudge?
        Yeah, I think that's more of a philosophy for people trying to build mass, especially "hard gainers". Someone like me who is around 155 lbs and would prefer to be around 165 or so.
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        • FlyingFinn
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 3956

          #1534
          Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

          Originally posted by TMagic
          ...If you're willing to risk kidney problems.

          Keep it to 1 gram per pound of body weight is a safe and easy way to go. No more than that. A lot of my text books are recommending 1.5-2.0 grams per kilogram of body weight if your lifting to gain muscle mass.
          There is no evidence of higher protein diets causing kidney problems in people with healthy kidneys. However, when you bump up your protein you should bump up your water in take as well. I shoot for 1.5 gallons + a day.

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          • Husker_OS
            Champs
            • Jun 2003
            • 21459

            #1535
            Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

            Are the muscle milk shakes good for you? Are they worth drinking after a workout? And I'm not referring to the powder ones, but the already made ones.
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            • TMagic
              G.O.A.T.
              • Apr 2007
              • 7550

              #1536
              Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

              Originally posted by FlyingFinn
              There is no evidence of higher protein diets causing kidney problems in people with healthy kidneys. However, when you bump up your protein you should bump up your water in take as well. I shoot for 1.5 gallons + a day.
              I have a professor that was a former body builder that showed us a scar left from the removal of his kidney due to taking too much protein. That was enough proof for me.

              Plus, all of my text books, many journal articles, and research studies I have looked up do not report anything more than 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight.

              This is recommended as it is the safest way and there is no unequivocal data that proves that more than that is better.
              Last edited by TMagic; 06-15-2009, 03:21 PM.
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              • Jonesy
                All Star
                • Feb 2003
                • 5382

                #1537
                Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                I've heard that if you consume more than 30-40 grams (depending on bodyweight) of protein in one sitting the rest is simply flushed through your kidney's and can do more harm then good. Prob why bb'ers started eating 5-7 times per day....

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                • ODogg
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #1538
                  Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                  Well I lost 5.8 pounds this week! It's the last week of my weight loss contest and I was very active this weekend, bowling, swimming and walking a ton. I'm down to a "svelte" 273 now. About 40 to 50 more pounds to go.
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                  • matt8204
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1164

                    #1539
                    Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                    Originally posted by ODogg
                    Well I lost 5.8 pounds this week! It's the last week of my weight loss contest and I was very active this weekend, bowling, swimming and walking a ton. I'm down to a "svelte" 273 now. About 40 to 50 more pounds to go.
                    Nice work! Keep it up. Every pound lost is progress, so don't pooh-pooh it! You're doing a great job.
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                    • colkilla
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1539

                      #1540
                      Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                      Originally posted by matt8204
                      Nice work! Keep it up. Every pound lost is progress, so don't pooh-pooh it! You're doing a great job.
                      piggy-backing on the praise!!! great job o-dogg!

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #1541
                        Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                        How is everyone's fiber intake? I haven't seen that discussed much around here
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • DueceDiggla
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 4915

                          #1542
                          Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                          What do you guys think of this deal? I'm going to pick it up Saturday. I already have the exact set of plates, and I got the bench and the whole deal. I was really looking for a hex bar, but I'll take the rest with it.

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                          • ODogg
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 37953

                            #1543
                            Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                            Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                            How is everyone's fiber intake? I haven't seen that discussed much around here
                            I'm hitting about 25 grams per day. I believe you're supposed to get about that.
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                            • ODogg
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #1544
                              Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                              I saw the doctor today and I�m off blood pressure medicine completely�..FINALLY!!!!!!! I have been trying to get off those damned meds for 2 years now. Here is what happened - I ran out of meds 2 weeks ago so I bought a machine to take my BP to monitor it and wrote down each time I checked it (twice a day). He looked at the logs and coupled with my reading this morning said that I was doing fine without the meds and it was unneeded so long as I kept working out and watching the food.

                              My sugar was also good, it�s supposed to be 100 or less after fasting and mine was 81!!!! That�s the best it�s been in all of the years I�ve been working out! Also, I weighed in 16 pounds lighter than I did 6 weeks ago. So yeah it was a great visit. Let�s just hope the next one in 3 months is as good of a one! I still have to wait and get my cholesterol level in a few days but I imagine that should be fine considering I�ve been eating so healthy for the last few months now.

                              Oh and today I beat the owner of my gym in weight loss for a 30 day contest. I lost 10 pounds and he lost 4. We're doing a rematch to keep us both motivated. I'�m 269 now so hope to be below 250 by end of summer.
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                              • DC
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 17996

                                #1545
                                Re: For all you guys wanting to gain muscle, size, etc.

                                ODogg; I am proud man. Keep it up. You will be where you want to be if you keep putting in the work. It won't be easy man. Don't get discouraged because the deeper you get into this, the longer it will take for you to see the results come as quickly as they came when you first started. Be like Kobe
                                Concrete evidence/videos please

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