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  • Heelfan71
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    • Jul 2002
    • 19940

    #46
    Re: Native American Mascots/Names

    Originally posted by jmood88
    Kind of offtopic but "American Indian" is one of the dumbest terms ever created.
    lol, yeah, they were here first.
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    • jmood88
      Sean Payton: Retribution
      • Jul 2003
      • 34639

      #47
      Re: Native American Mascots/Names

      Originally posted by Heelfan71
      lol, yeah, they were here first.
      And they have nothing to do with India. They got named because some idiot got lost. I just can't believe that the name has stuck for so long.
      Originally posted by Blzer
      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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      • Heelfan71
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 19940

        #48
        Re: Native American Mascots/Names

        Redskins is offensive. No different than having a team named the Negroes.

        From Wikipedia

        “Back not so long ago, when there was a bounty on the heads of the Indian people... the trappers would bring in Indian scalps along with the other skins that they had managed to trap or shoot,” says Holder, whose arguments were included in a recent court filing in support of Harjo's claim. “Trappers and hunters began using the term ‘redskin’ ...they would tell the owner that they had bearskin, deerskins...and ‘redskins.’ The term came from the bloody mess that one saw when looking at the scalp ...thus the term ‘red’...skin... So, you see when we see or hear that term...we don't see a football team... we don't see a game being played...we don't see any ‘honor’...we see the bloody pieces of scalps that were hacked off of our men, women and even our children... we hear the screams as our people were killed...and ‘skinned’ just like animals. So, yes, ...you can safely say that the term is considered extremely offensive.”
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        • Heelfan71
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          • Jul 2002
          • 19940

          #49
          Re: Native American Mascots/Names

          Originally posted by jmood88
          And they have nothing to do with India. They got named because some idiot got lost. I just can't believe that the name has stuck for so long.
          Christopher Columbus named them Indians because he thought he was in the "Indies"
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          • ODogg
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            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #50
            Re: Native American Mascots/Names

            Originally posted by Heelfan71
            Redskins is offensive. No different than having a team named the Negroes.

            From Wikipedia
            Are you Native American? If not then you cannot say it's offensive to Native Americans.
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            • Heelfan71
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 19940

              #51
              Re: Native American Mascots/Names

              Originally posted by ODogg
              Are you Native American? If not then you cannot say it's offensive to Native Americans.
              I'm not black either, but I know the "N" word is offensive.
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              • jmood88
                Sean Payton: Retribution
                • Jul 2003
                • 34639

                #52
                Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                Originally posted by Heelfan71
                Christopher Columbus named them Indians because he thought he was in the "Indies"
                Yeah he was an evil and lost man.
                Originally posted by Blzer
                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                • WazzuRC
                  Go Cougs!
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 5617

                  #53
                  Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                  Originally posted by ODogg
                  Are you Native American? If not then you cannot say it's offensive to Native Americans.
                  Well I'm not gay so I guess f***** is alright as well.

                  I'm not hispanic so I guess sp*** or b***** is okay.

                  Many Native Americans have published articles in scholarly journals, written books, protested, etc. Obviously there is something there.

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                  • WazzuRC
                    Go Cougs!
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 5617

                    #54
                    Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                    With you guys talking about Redskins...

                    I read this today. Did you know that in 2005 California State Legislature passed a bill banning the use of the term "Redskins" as a public school nickname but the bill was VETOED because Schwarzenegger thought it was a "trivial issue."

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #55
                      Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                      Jesus Christ some of you guys haven't got a clue. It's quite disturbing actually, since I love reading most of your posts on other topics.. didn't even think the same posters could be so blind.

                      Rams? WTF are you talking about man? If we're not Native American, we can't be offended? That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever read on here.

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #56
                        Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                        Originally posted by WazzuRC
                        With you guys talking about Redskins...

                        I read this today. Did you know that in 2005 California State Legislature passed a bill banning the use of the term "Redskins" as a public school nickname but the bill was VETOED because Schwarzenegger thought it was a "trivial issue."
                        Lol so trivial that a bill was written and passed.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • Double Eights
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 5733

                          #57
                          Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                          Originally posted by WazzuRC
                          With you guys talking about Redskins...

                          I read this today. Did you know that in 2005 California State Legislature passed a bill banning the use of the term "Redskins" as a public school nickname but the bill was VETOED because Schwarzenegger thought it was a "trivial issue."
                          What do you expect from the Arnold.

                          The Redskins name is probably the only thing I see wrong with Native American names used in sports. No way should Washington still be able to use that name.

                          But things like the Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves, FSU Seminoles, Illinois Fighting Illini, etc.. is fine with me. They don't really scream "offensive or shameful" like Washington Redskins does.

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                          • WazzuRC
                            Go Cougs!
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 5617

                            #58
                            Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                            I've spent so much time on here debating and watching the Indians game (ironic...) that I haven't even written my paper. I'm so screwed.

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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52906

                              #59
                              Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                              Like Jerry Seinfeld said...

                              "You know, I don't get it. Not allowed to ask a Chinese person where the Chinese restaurant is! I mean, aren't we all getting a little too sensitive? I mean, someone asks me which way's Israel, I don't fly off the handle."
                              If someone calls me (insert derogatory Armenian term here), I'm not going to go crazy. Why should I? Who cares what people think or say?

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                              • Double Eights
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 5733

                                #60
                                Re: Native American Mascots/Names

                                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                                Like Jerry Seinfeld said...



                                If someone calls me (insert derogatory Armenian term here), I'm not going to go crazy. Why should I? Who cares what people think or say?
                                Exactly.

                                You live one life. Why live it constantly worrying and fussing about what other people say?

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