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  • VTPack919
    We Go Again
    • Jun 2003
    • 9708

    #76
    Re: Fights

    Originally posted by HungryBologna
    Most of the time it takes at least 2 people to fight so I'm not sure your friends are exactly innocent. I'm sure it all started with both people talking **** and escalated from there.
    Wrong, thanks for assuming however.

    If by **** talking you mean my friends getting called the N-word by a bunch of rednecks then yes two of the fights can indeed be accredited to that. I can't really blame them for getting worked up about that.
    YNWA

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    • VTPack919
      We Go Again
      • Jun 2003
      • 9708

      #77
      Re: Fights

      Originally posted by pk500
      My final post on this topic: If it's all the alcohol's fault, if there's no personal responsibility, then how come EVERYONE doesn't start brawling when they're a bit tipsy or drunk?

      Funny, I went to a Christmas party last night and had two full tumblers of Johnnie Walker Black with about an eye dropper's worth of water in each. I was fully lubricated. Yet I didn't have a single confrontational moment with anyone, just a lot of laughter.

      Imagine that.

      P.S.: My wife drove home. God bless her.

      Take care,
      PK
      It's because you are perfect, old, and wise.
      YNWA

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      • NYJets
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 18637

        #78
        Re: Fights

        Originally posted by VTPack919
        When my friends are in it, and look to be in danger, I am getting them out. I don't understand why some of you cannot grasp this fact.

        I wasn't saying you, as in you specifically. I mean, just because someone in a fight doesn't start the argument, or throw the punch, doesn't mean it's not in any way there fault.

        And this thread is only getting stupid because you are getting pissed at anybody who doesn't tell you what you want to hear.
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        • pk500
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 8062

          #79
          Re: Fights

          Originally posted by VTPack919
          It's because you are perfect, old, and wise.
          Defensive at all?

          Again, if you can't take advice with which you disagree, then don't air your dirty laundry in here. Find your yes men instead: That's clearly what you want.

          If anything, the more I read your responses, the more I realize you were being truthful with yourself when you wrote this in your original post:

          I love a good fight
          If that wasn't the case, then why are you ignoring every piece of advice that tells you either not to fight or to stop hanging with people who fight often? You're simply looking for people to agree with you and are bristling that not everyone here is marching in lockstep with you.

          Do you want honest opinions or affirmation? Almost anyone who has read this entire thread sure as hell is leaning toward the latter answer.

          Good luck.

          Take care,
          PK
          Last edited by pk500; 12-16-2007, 07:22 PM.
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          • Herbsinator
            All Star
            • Sep 2003
            • 4573

            #80
            Re: Fights

            just because one side "starts the fight" doesn't mean the other side didn't have a lot to do with the fight. I'm in college and I go to parties and me and my friends don't get in fights. Maybe it is because my friends and me aren't "tough guys" who have to show how tough we are all the time. Or maybe it is because we can have a few without having to start fights. I'm not trying to blame the OP or anything but you have to be honest with yourself...do you seriously thing that your friends had NOTHING to do with starting those fights?

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            • Gibbz
              All Star
              • Aug 2005
              • 8240

              #81
              Re: Fights

              Christ, you sound like Stan's dad in "The Losing Edge" episode of South Park, where he must always fight other little league dads. You don't have to ****ing fight...

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              • pk500
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 8062

                #82
                Re: Fights

                Originally posted by VTPack919
                When my friends are in it, and look to be in danger, I am getting them out. I don't understand why some of you cannot grasp this fact.
                Then I guess you've made up your mind from the original two choices:

                I feel like I have two choices, stop partying or deal with it. I just feel like one time someone will seriously get hurt over something stupid. Like the fight tonight over a guy telling my friend not to look at him while he plays beer pong, what the hell is that?
                Nine pages later, it seems we have a tidy conclusion. It's pretty obvious that you're taking choice No. 2; You clearly want to deal with it. So continue to fight and take the risk that someone will get seriously hurt -- or worse.

                Just don't play the victim role, because you're not. It's your choice to continue to fight or enter fights as the knight in shining armor, saving your boys. It's once thing if this is a one-time occurrence; it's clearly another when it becomes a pattern.

                It's your life; live with the consequences. Good luck.

                Take care,
                PK
                Last edited by pk500; 12-16-2007, 07:31 PM.
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                • Gibbz
                  All Star
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8240

                  #83
                  Re: Fights

                  Originally posted by VTPack919
                  When my friends are in it, and look to be in danger, I am getting them out. I don't understand why some of you cannot grasp this fact.
                  I think your friends getting the **** kicked out of them could benefit them more than someone saving them could.

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                  • VTPack919
                    We Go Again
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9708

                    #84
                    Re: Fights

                    Originally posted by gibbzilla558
                    I think your friends getting the **** kicked out of them could benefit them more than someone saving them could.
                    If they did something to warrant it I would be right there with you...
                    YNWA

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                    • VTPack919
                      We Go Again
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9708

                      #85
                      Re: Fights

                      Originally posted by Herbsinator
                      just because one side "starts the fight" doesn't mean the other side didn't have a lot to do with the fight. I'm in college and I go to parties and me and my friends don't get in fights. Maybe it is because my friends and me aren't "tough guys" who have to show how tough we are all the time. Or maybe it is because we can have a few without having to start fights. I'm not trying to blame the OP or anything but you have to be honest with yourself...do you seriously thing that your friends had NOTHING to do with starting those fights?
                      They haven't had anything to do with the fights we have had this year. I have never had a problem with fights, besides getting into it with my brother, my whole life. That's why I just feel like I am getting unlucky because my friends aren't the kind to get into fights either. Like I have said, I have been there when they have been getting in fights and they aren't out starting stuff with anyone.
                      YNWA

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                      • VTPack919
                        We Go Again
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9708

                        #86
                        Re: Fights

                        Originally posted by pk500
                        Defensive at all?

                        Again, if you can't take advice with which you disagree, then don't air your dirty laundry in here. Find your yes men instead: That's clearly what you want.

                        If anything, the more I read your responses, the more I realize you were being truthful with yourself when you wrote this in your original post:



                        If that wasn't the case, then why are you ignoring every piece of advice that tells you either not to fight or to stop hanging with people who fight often? You're simply looking for people to agree with you and are bristling that not everyone here is marching in lockstep with you.

                        Do you want honest opinions or affirmation? Almost anyone who has read this entire thread sure as hell is leaning toward the latter answer.

                        Good luck.

                        Take care,
                        PK
                        I already answered that last bit in the thread, go look it up.

                        Also, I was seeing in anyone was dealing with the same thing I was in college. You weren't really the niche I was looking for, yet you keep giving me advice which doesn't help becuase it doesn't apply to the situations I have been in. If you were there and know exactly what happened then you could carry on, but you werent, so ease up. I didn't ask for your advice, so you can stop giving it because you like to make assumptions.
                        Last edited by VTPack919; 12-16-2007, 07:47 PM.
                        YNWA

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                        • pk500
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 8062

                          #87
                          Re: Fights

                          Why doesn't it apply? Did it ever occur to you that I was around fights in college, too? Kids drank alcohol, got sh*tfaced and did stupid things back then, too -- sorry to break that news to you. It's not a recent phenomenon. College isn't that night-and-day different now than it was 20 years ago. I know -- I have friends and relatives in college right now.

                          Now, the racial stuff, that's not cool. Not cool AT ALL. But don't you think that the rednecks calling you the N word are trying to bait your boys into a fight? And aren't your friends jumping head-first right into the rednecks' ignorant little world by responding with fists?

                          Take care,
                          PK
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                          • RAZRr1275
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 9918

                            #88
                            Re: Fights

                            Originally posted by pk500
                            Why doesn't it apply? Did it ever occur to you that I was around fights in college, too? Kids drank alcohol, got sh*tfaced and did stupid things back then, too -- sorry to break that news to you. It's not a recent phenomenon. College isn't that night-and-day different now than it was 20 years ago. I know -- I have friends and relatives in college right now.

                            Now, the racial stuff, that's not cool. But don't you think that the rednecks calling you the N word are trying to bait your boys into a fight? And aren't they jumping right into the rednecks' ignorant little world by responding with fists?

                            Take care,
                            PK
                            You are exactly right there never should be a fight like that over petty name calling. And yes I'm including the n word in this because this word was made to belittle people thus making it petty.
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                            • VTPack919
                              We Go Again
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9708

                              #89
                              Re: Fights

                              Originally posted by pk500
                              Why doesn't it apply? Did it ever occur to you that I was around fights in college, too? Kids drank alcohol, got sh*tfaced and did stupid things back then, too -- sorry to break that news to you. It's not a recent phenomenon. College isn't that night-and-day different now than it was 20 years ago. I know -- I have friends and relatives in college right now.

                              Now, the racial stuff, that's not cool. Not cool AT ALL. But don't you think that the rednecks calling you the N word are trying to bait your boys into a fight? And aren't your friends jumping head-first right into the rednecks' ignorant little world by responding with fists?

                              Take care,
                              PK
                              Thats up to them, but both times it has been one of my friends getting called that and going in and fighting. I can't just let them go down like that when they were so outnumbered. Both times I went to go get them as best I could and tried to get them out of there and calm down. None of that is me being the problem at all which you have tried to point out so many times.

                              Never said college was any different than it was 20 years ago, so you really aren't "breaking a new phenomena", don't really get the smart*** way you put it but alright...
                              YNWA

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                              • VTPack919
                                We Go Again
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9708

                                #90
                                Re: Fights

                                Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                                You are exactly right there never should be a fight like that over petty name calling. And yes I'm including the n word in this because this word was made to belittle people thus making it petty.
                                Okay, you tell that to my friend then. The N-word to me is not petty, maybe it's because I am a minority, or maybe I'm just too sensitive, who knows?
                                YNWA

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