So Who Else Doesn't do the Flesh Thing

[ex carrabba fan]

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I don't have a moral disgust for people that don't eat meat. I just think it's misguided for some of the reasons you listed. It sounds like you're more angry at cheap farmers trying to cut costs. Keeping cows in pens and gorging on grain is cheaper that maintaining a range. Many people also hate walmart, but keep shopping at other stores. Lead painted toys haven't kept people from buying other toys. There's always an alternative out there less extreme than this.

There's plenty of ways to get meat from cows that were raised eating natural, organic grass in fields. They don't get as much infections or diseases as ones raised in stables.

Hmm, I may have to look into these free range cattle. I was under the impression that those didn't exist anymore. But I'll give it a gander.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I didn't take any, I did it wrong

But I was only 18 when I started, so I didn't feel any adverse effects. I think a multivitamin will suffice for the most part. I also didn't eat fish. No meat at all, cold turkey, right before Thanksgiving, lol.

Oh hahaha gotta love 18. Even though that was only three years ago for me I feel embarrassed to know that I thought I was so bad *** at that age.

[bkfount]

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Hmm, I may have to look into these free range cattle. I was under the impression that those didn't exist anymore. But I'll give it a gander.

well in some areas, but certainly California has access to them I'm sure.

[ESPNdeportes]

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I think its awesome you're gonna give it a shot.....good luck with the lifestyle change. Don't let the naysayers get to you, you don't have to justify your reasoning in my book.

[TheGamingChef]

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I think it's B12. Whatever 'B' is found in chicken is the one the doctor was referring to.

DC: Life as a vegetarian was easy breezy. I didn't really lose weight or anything, but I think it's easy to stay healthy on the right kind of veggie diet. It was decent though. I stopped for a few reasons. I got what I wanted out of it, I wanted an easier route to the vitamins, and I wanted to start putting on some real weight. I was working out at the time, and I wanted to get some more muscle on my frame and get up to about 215. I ended up stopping at 210, because at 6 feet, that was bigger than I expected to be. Once I was back into meat, I just stuck with it, because I didn't feel any adverse effects.

I didn't feel that alleged nausea people feel when they go back to meat, not even for pork. I think that's psychosomatic. I just felt like I had more protein in me, lol.

How good was that first steak after six years?

[chippered]

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I just ate a Whopper, it was yummy.

Hey, I thought they got rid of those things???

Good luck with the veggie diet. You have a lot more will power than I have, as I love steak, pork chops, and chicken. I'd imagine a veggie diet would be cheaper though, no?

[RoyalBoyle78]

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I started out my lacto-vegetarian lifestyle yesterday, and I feel confident I can never consume any meat for the rest of my life.

My main concern: I'm pretty "muscular" and I'm fearing that I'll get skinny. Obviously I weight train to stay fit, for those who practice this lifestyle, I'll be fine right?

Also, any tips? One of my veggy friends said she takes an iron supplement and suggested I do the same, and a multi vitamin. I understand for men my age [19-51], the daily allowance for iron is 8 mg. So should I be taking a pill with a little less than that? Also with the multi vitamin, any advice on how much dosage should be in it? And any other tips as well?

I've done my fair share of research, but I'd like to get some personal responses as well.

good luck, I tired it, it lasted for like 3 months and that was all.

[superjames1992]

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I still don't know why you would want to give up meat. Meat is good and good for you. Animals were made for us to eat and I intend to eat them as was intended.

But good luck anyways!

[Bornindamecca]

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How good was that first steak after six years?

The first Philly Cheese Steak, Pastrami Sandwich, Turkey Sandwich etc...All great, haha. Not to mention the shrimp and salmon. It's definitely good to be back.

[ESPNdeportes]

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They are delicious Doc. But my reasoning isn't because it's cruel to eat animals, it's simply inefficient. Countless people could be fed with the grain livestock eat, as it requires 10 times as many crops to feed animals being bred for meat production as it would to feed the same number of people on a vegetarian diet.

I no longer want to support one of the largest downfalls to our enviornment. Animal farms are one of the biggest carbon producers on the planet, and cattle farming takes out about a football field of rainforest a day to produce about 250 hamburgers.

I realize it seems insignificant for one person to stop eating meat, while at the same time probably still purchase other animal products, but it helps me sleep better at night. I just wish more people could be fed.

You are way ahead of the New York Times Man.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/we...6cb&ei=5087%0A

Interesting article, makes you really think.

[stewaat]

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If people didn't eat animals none of us would be here right now. Our ancestors would've starved. I just want to respect those brave peoples.

[stewaat]

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Those grain-fed animals, in turn, are contributing to health problems among the world’s wealthier citizens — heart disease, some types of cancer, diabetes. The argument that meat provides useful protein makes sense, if the quantities are small. But the “you gotta eat meat” claim collapses at American levels. Even if the amount of meat we eat weren’t harmful, it’s way more than enough.

All right now that's the dumbest thing I've heard.

Basically the problem is the efficiency of producing the large amounts of meat. We need to find a way to limit the damage these farms do to the environment.

[daflyboys]

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[Beantown]

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I actually got a detention in 6th grade for making a vegetarian cry to our teacher because I kept moo'ing in her ear during class, after she had given a presentation about how people shouldn't eat cows.

Man, I was such a badass in 6th grade.


Good luck to you, man. I could never give up chicken and steak.

[Blaxican8504]

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I actually got a detention in 6th grade for making a vegetarian cry to our teacher because I kept moo'ing in her ear during class, after she had given a presentation about how people shouldn't eat cows.

Man, I was such a badass in 6th grade.


Good luck to you, man. I could never give up chicken and steak.